Mastermariner Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr-Zz5HbO7Q But hold the likes buddies! You can thank me later. Master 9
FlatSpinMan Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 WHOA! That looks great, for the planes and WW2 stuff, if nothing else. Gonna have to sit down and watch this. But for now - my first attempt at the FME. I'm going in.
FlatSpinMan Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 Actually it sucked me in. I watched half of it already, but now I am really going to try out this FME thing. The show seems pretty good. I imagine it loses a hell of a lot in translation, and there are a few cliches flying around, but it's a TV show about WW2 fighter pilots so I'm willing to overlook a few things. I'm enjoying it. Thanks for posting it.
Guest deleted@13284 Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 I quite enjoyed the 1st episode despite the subs and some of the special effects. I think I'll continue,thanks for the find Master.
-NW-ChiefRedCloud Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 Enjoyed it immensely. Thanks for posting ... watched the first one and looking forward to watching the rest. Chief
Finkeren Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 I gotta say, that wasn't half bad. The flight scenes weren't anything to look at, the Yak mock -ups fairly ugly and they could've at least used some proper high powered piston engine sounds. But the acting was alright and I actually like the way the characters were presented. Not in the overly theatrical way, I've often seen in Russian cinema. I just might catch the rest of the series.
Blooddawn1942 Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 Not too bad....it was kind of entertaining! Thanks for posting !
Feathered_IV Posted February 28, 2015 Posted February 28, 2015 Ok, You've got my upvote and my thanks too. I really enjoyed the first episode. Sort of on a par with the old BBC series, Wings. Now for episode 2...
Finkeren Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 3 episodes in now - yeah I know, I'm slow, but in between working 2 jobs, family life, playing BoS and watching 'House of Cards', 'Vikings', 'Firefly', 'Black Sails' and 'Attack on Titan' at the same time it's hard to get through more than one episode per week. Gotta say, I really enjoy it for what it is. It's true that it's got a sorta Wings-esque antiquated charm to it, but somehow it still feels kinda authentic. It doesn't try to hide the horrendous loss rates and mental strain on these pilots (I especially enjoy the secluded Lydia Litviak-character) Still not sold on the action itself though. The ugly Yak mockups and fake looking CGI Bf 109Es together with some weird editing in the flying scenes just puts me off. I really think Russian producers should be able to pull off better effects and action than what we see here.
Finkeren Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 Wow... By episode 7 it's gone from being kinda interesting to being pretty damn good! Also quite a bit darker, the way they just unceremoniously shot their most experienced pilot when he broke down from battle fatigue. Definately going to watch the whole thing.
SOLIDKREATE Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Maria Andreeva, the pigtailed girl in episode one shown at 9:50. YUMMY!
Finkeren Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Maria Andreeva, the pigtailed girl in episode one shown at 9:50. YUMMY! Well, she's kinda one of the main characters. You better get (it) on watching the rest of the series.
Finkeren Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 But: You best learn to adress her as 'comrade komsomol organizer'. She's the resident leader of the youth communist movement.
-NW-ChiefRedCloud Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 I'm working my way through them and love them ..... Chief
Feathered_IV Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 Even the wife has taken to snappily saying "yheszt!" 1
Finkeren Posted March 24, 2015 Posted March 24, 2015 The ending, while predictable, was pretty great. I only wish, that it could've been a tad more grissly. The sanitized violence kinda takes the edge off the horrors that befall the squadron. All things considered it was great, the obvious flaws notwithstanding. One thing I didn't get though: How did the pregnant girl survive? We leave her at a point, where she's pretty much doomed, yet there she is at the end.
Herbs107 Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 Loved it...Very raw and badly translated...lol... And at the end it wasnt the pregnant girl, it was one of the gunners. Poor pregnant girl dyed....
Finkeren Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 And at the end it wasnt the pregnant girl, it was one of the gunners. Poor pregnant girl dyed.... Ah, good. Must've not payed enough attention then Wouldn't have made much sense for her to survive.
Dakpilot Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 What happened to the earlier habit of using spoilers.... LoL must get round to watching this sometime Cheers Dakpilot
Finkeren Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 What happened to the earlier habit of using spoilers.... LoL must get round to watching this sometime Cheers Dakpilot The girl who gets pregnant is a minor (and slightly annoying) character. Whether she lives or dies was just a point of confusion more than a substantial plot point. Besides, this series is right up there with Game of Thrones in terms of main character body count, just with less incest, so it's not like it makes much difference
Feathered_IV Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 Up to episode 8 now. Fantastic stuff. I see what you mean about episode seven. That moment when the station commander doffs his cap in cold fury and bows low to the commissars of the tribunal like they are the new tzars... What a great scene! Some really well developed characters and talented acting all round that no amount of dodgy subtitles or shabby Yaks can diminish. I'm seriously hooked.
Finkeren Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 Feathered: After you finish, you should watch 'Night Swallows' the series that Star Media made the year before 'The Attackers'. I'm eating through it right now, and it's almost as good (in some ways better especially the action scenes) and pretty much more of the same and yet different.
Feathered_IV Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 I'll definitely check that one out too when I get home, thanks! 1
Finkeren Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 You should. The one complaint I have about it so far is, that I think they drastically overplay the combat effectiveness of the Po-2 night bombers, basically making them a kind of pin-point accurate wonder weapon, instead of a despensable means of harrasment. It's necessary for the plot though which has a focus on colaboration with the Red Armys Intelligence service (basically the Soviet equivalent of the SAS) which gives it more of a cloak-and-dagger feel but also gives the viewer a better idea about what's going on than was the case with 'The Attackers' where the war just seems like a big chaotic mess.
Feathered_IV Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 One thing I was going to ask of viewers, I'm gathering resources to hopefully make a speech mod that adds distant radio chatter to BoS. Something that is badly lacking for immersion at the moment. If you're watching one of the shows and hear/see a section that features radio chatter or ground control voices without music, be sure to post which episode and the time that the scene occurs. That way I can extract the audio and add potentially add it to the mix. I've been doing a similar thing with CloDs RAF voices and its amazing what a difference it makes. 1
Finkeren Posted March 26, 2015 Posted March 26, 2015 That's a great idea! Not too much of it in 'Night Swallows' unfortunately, as the planes there aren't equipped with radio.
Mastermariner Posted March 28, 2015 Author Posted March 28, 2015 Na, its there ok https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzl4FW7Hu-E&list=PLwGzY25TNHPAtgsHJ6CnH-pn38anqOwzH&index=12 Try again 1
Finkeren Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 Ah that series finale: Pretty much the Red Wedding of the Eastern Front
Mastermariner Posted March 28, 2015 Author Posted March 28, 2015 Have to agree, but it put some faces on people we " play" with and some local colour on the places we "play" from a historical point of view. So it was not wasted time at all. IMHO! Master 1
Finkeren Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) Hell, I'm already unconciously putting the faces and voices from this series on my AI squad members, when I fly now. Edited March 28, 2015 by Finkeren
Feathered_IV Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 Ah that series finale: Pretty much the Red Wedding of the Eastern Front Aw really? Part of me wants to say thanks for the spoiler, dammit. The other half wants to say thanks for warning me. I often tend to walk away from a film or tv show before the inevitable and obligatory betrayal, death or calamity strikes. It's great to switch off a romantic film about 2o minutes in, just after the montage. You get to skip the whole middle bit where all the fuss and misunderstandings occur and go, Gee what a great little film. I'm so glad those kids got together... and leave it at that. I might have to do the same with this. As long as I don't watch it nothing bad will happen. I want Bes and Dementyeva getting old together and living across the street from Maslov and Lidya. In the evenings when they've put the kids to bed they can all get together and reminisce about the days after the war when they flew Mig-15's.. 1
Mastermariner Posted March 28, 2015 Author Posted March 28, 2015 That must have been hard given how they spent many years of their youth. I will post a new link to some old voices from the war and comments of young people today. Master
Finkeren Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) Aw really? Part of me wants to say thanks for the spoiler, dammit. The other half wants to say thanks for warning me. I often tend to walk away from a film or tv show before the inevitable and obligatory betrayal, death or calamity strikes. It's great to switch off a romantic film about 2o minutes in, just after the montage. You get to skip the whole middle bit where all the fuss and misunderstandings occur and go, Gee what a great little film. I'm so glad those kids got together... and leave it at that. I might have to do the same with this. As long as I don't watch it nothing bad will happen. I want Bes and Dementyeva getting old together and living across the street from Maslov and Lidya. In the evenings when they've put the kids to bed they can all get together and reminisce about the days after the war when they flew Mig-15's.. Feathered: That's so cute. You're just like my wife After watching the season finale of the fourth season of 'Dexter', she was so upset, that she flat out refused to pick up the series again for 1½ years. I personally love it, when a series makes you really really care about (or really really hate) a character that you've gotten to know very well, and then kills him/her off and leave you emotionally shattered. Better to finish while on top, than wait too long and have the audience go: 'Is he dead? Good, he was starting to get boring anyway'. Edited March 28, 2015 by Finkeren
avlSteve Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 I had missed this thread, and watched the first'n. I thought it was awesome. Thanks, mariner.
Finkeren Posted March 28, 2015 Posted March 28, 2015 Keep on going Steve. It get's even better halfway through. By that time you've also adjusted to the editing (which kinda seemed 'off' at first but didn't feel unnatural at the end) and hardly even notice the horrible subtitles anymore. 1
Mastermariner Posted March 28, 2015 Author Posted March 28, 2015 There is another dramatized story based on real events but no flying:( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqtHo_SmnTY&list=PLwGzY25TNHPCOLy1L_VqqNvYuzA3AkIxJ&index=1 Belarus WW2 and the attempt to kill the German leader. Master
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