IL-2 M skinrequest?

[216th_Peterla]

Uhmm, very interesting.

 

Tomorrow I will take a look again. I will reescalate the star on the tail(the current one is too big) and I will take a decision on the nose white camo. Maybe I will do two variants, one with full nose camo and one without.

Thanks for the help Jason.

 

S!

[Learstang]

You're welcome! That might be a good idea to do both versions.

 

Regards,

 

Jason

[Yankee_One]

Great topic!!

 

 

Peterla,

 

you are always doing a nice job. Hey mate, didnt thought you are so fast   looking forward to "our"  or better your project.

 

@ Jason

 

If you dont mind ihave some questions.

 

 

Are these skins from your book or is it sb else? (btw i have ordered it but it will take its time until it arrives)

 

I do not understand that canvas "story" completely.

 

The canvas was removed durig flight or? (influences flight, drag, ripping off, causing higher temperatures=etc)

 

If it was removed, then (its my conclusion and i am not an expert) the nose was green. If it was painted white, it has the affect of blinding the pilot.

 

Please be so kind and correct me, i want to learn more.

 

Thanks

[Learstang]

Great topic!!

 

 

Peterla,

 

you are always doing a nice job. Hey mate, didnt thought you are so fast   looking forward to "our"  or better your project.

 

@ Jason

 

If you dont mind ihave some questions.

 

 

Are these skins from your book or is it sb else? (btw i have ordered it but it will take its time until it arrives)

 

I do not understand that canvas "story" completely.

 

The canvas was removed durig flight or? (influences flight, drag, ripping off, causing higher temperatures=etc)

 

If it was removed, then (its my conclusion and i am not an expert) the nose was green. If it was painted white, it has the affect of blinding the pilot.

 

Please be so kind and correct me, i want to learn more.

 

Thanks

You've already ordered my book: you are now my best friend! Thank you very much! Regarding the tarp, it was only used on the ground to protect the engine from the rigours of the ferocious Russian winter. It was removed before every flight. You will also sometimes see the entire canopy covered, and you will see the rear gun covered on the ground when the Il-2 was left parked for any period of time. That is a good point about the white nose dazzling the pilot; I hadn't thought of that. The white paint however, was a very matte colour, and some Il-2's did indeed have the nose painted white, so dazzling apparently wasn't a problem. Regarding the colour profiles, although due to a lack of space, all 150 or so of them that Mr. Tessitori (Massimo Tessitori) prepared for the book are not in it, some 25 or so are (they are all on his site, however). As it happens, Blue 6, Red 7, and Red 28 are slated to be in the book.

 

Best Regards,

 

Jason

[216th_Peterla]

Hi Jason,

I know is offtopic but where we can buy your book? Also that info(I guess) will be interesting for all of us.

Regards,

Peterla

[Learstang]

As of now, it's available from Amazon for preorder. It's available in different Amazon sites in different countries also - Germany and France come to mind, and Australia also, I believe. I you'd like to see every where you can purchase it, just do a search on Google for "Il-2 Shturmovik: Red Avenger"; that's what I do to see the sites it's now available on. Thank you very much for your interest in the book!

 

Best Regards,

 

Jason

[Yankee_One]

Hi Jason,

 

its a pleasure from my side too. Its the second time in my life i am in contact with the author.

 

Thank you for the info, the canvas was nothing else the German used for their ac. Ok now its lear for me.

I am corious about your book, i like the IL-2, its a (for me and i know for Peterla too) sexy ac. We both love that bird.

 

Greetings

 

LC

 

@ Peterla,

 

i have orderd it from Amazon. If you need help, let me know if i can help you.

 

Amazon states that they will contact me, when the book arrives, Amazon has no fixed date

 

Hopefully it will not take 2 months   only two weeks.

 

I cross my fingers for both of us

 

Salute my friend

Edited February 26, 2015 by LcSummers

[216th_Peterla]

Hi Guys,

Red 12 is out. Check the custom skin thread.

S!

[Learstang]

Hi Jason,

 

its a pleasure from my side too. Its the second time in my life i am in contact with the author.

 

Thank you for the info, the canvas was nothing else the German used for their ac. Ok now its lear for me.

I am corious about your book, i like the IL-2, its a (for me and i know for Peterla too) sexy ac. We both love that bird.

 

Greetings

 

LC

 

 

@ Peterla,

 

i have orderd it from Amazon. If you need help, let me know if i can help you.

 

Amazon states that they will contact me, when the book arrives, Amazon has no fixed date

 

Hopefully it will not take 2 months   only two weeks.

 

I cross my fingers for both of us

 

Salute my friend

It should be published some time in May of this year. Believe me, I'm anxious to see it out also!

 

Best Regards,

 

Jason

[216th_Peterla]

Hi guys,

I guess I find a solution with Red 28. One version with almost fully white nose(only slightly deteriorated due to the canvas removal/installation) and the other one with almost no white on the nose, only a minor amount that shows a complete removal of paint. You are not going to believe me but this Skin cost more time to do than Red 12.  I will post both versions(after more checks) tomorrow.

I add to pics for comparison.(single seater, sorry)

Regards,

Peter

 

PS: Indeed a really interesting topic for this aircraft.

[Learstang]

I think they both look good, and plausible.

 

Regards,

 

Jason

[216th_Peterla]

Hi all,

I'm working with a peculiar camo scheme that could be not so accurate. Maybe Jason could told us something about this strange camo pattern. Anyways I guess will be nice to have a slightly change on the usual three colors that I use to do. I need to do some corrections and will be ready to download.

S!

[Learstang]

Peterla, this looks like the paint scheme used on the restored Il-2 arrow at the air museum at Prague-Kbely. The colours they used when they restored their aeroplane are incorrect: the reddish-brown should be the greyish-tan you've been using, and the dark grey should be maybe a little darker, like the grey you've been using. The pattern is correct for an Il-2 from Zavod (factory) No. 1 in Kuibyshev (today called Samara, in Russia). This pattern is characterised by the "puzzle" type interlocking pattern on the starboard wing.

 

Best Regards,

 

Jason

[216th_Peterla]

Thanks for the info Jason. I just change the layer color. This will be ok then. I guess I will post both skins, the correct one and the museum restored one. That way the people can choose which one they want.

Regards,

Peterla

[Learstang]

Very nice, Peterla! The only thing I would change is for this version with the correct GPW colours, you should remove the yellow tips to the propeller blades (I would leave them on the one with the current Prague-Kbely colours, since that's they way they have it).

 

Best Regards,

 

Jason

[216th_Peterla]

True Jason. I realized after posting the pictures. I already change the prop layer on the historical skin. Good catch. I will add your description about the aircraft whit the download on the custom skin forum maybe later today.

Thanks for your clarifications again.

Best regards,

Peterla

[Yankee_One]

Hi all,

 

 

Peterla, this new project is great. I like the way that you will release both of them. If we get those informations in Jason s book too, i will be more than happy.

 

QUOTE

 

The pattern is correct for an Il-2 from Zavod (factory) No. 1 in Kuibyshev (today called Samara, in Russia). This pattern is characterised by the "puzzle" type interlocking pattern on the starboard wing.

 

That puzzle pattern was eye catching at least for me, but i didnt knew the exact reason. Now i know it. Great info you are giving us Jason.

 

 

Peterla, i think this is/are the kind of informations (along with profiles and photos) we like and need.

 

Jason, i must admit, i cant wait for your book.

 

S!

[Learstang]

You're welcome, gentlemen! I'm glad to hear you can't wait for the book, LC! To be honest, I'm looking forward to holding it in my hands also.

 

Best Regards,

 

Jason

[216th_Peterla]

Hi guys,

Tomorrow I will release No38. I was busy this days until now and I noticed a couple of flaws on the green camo scheme of the aircraft(was not matching properly on the nose and tail boom) and I think is already done. Tomorrow a last check and both versions will be posted on the main skin thread. Sorry for the delay.

S!

 

PS: I just upgrade White nose No12. I see today that the RH machine gun cover was grey and should be green. I also change the layer of the propeller to make it darker(thus all my previous models the layer is more light black than black) I guess I will upgrade the color of the propeller layer on all the models this weekend. I will let you know. The color layer is ok for winter season but for summer it will be little light, that's why I'm planning to change the layer. 

[Yankee_One]

Hey Peterla,

 

lot of work with your skins. I didn,t recognized something, for me they are all perfect, but you know, i am not the artist

 

When i am doing something it must be( for myself) 100% and i think its your way too . Nice.

 

See you tomorrow, or your skins mate!

 

 

PS: I like this blog, very informative and "colorfull"

Edited March 2, 2015 by LcSummers

[216th_Peterla]

Hi guys,

I almost have ready this one, Blue 21. It will be released for sure before the next week. I only need to check that the overall is ok. For sure that Jason know the bird.

S!

[Learstang]

I'd forgotten this one - very nice indeed!

 

Regards,

 

Jason

[216th_Peterla]

Hi all,

The new IL2I Istrebitel camo pattern is on the main thread for download. I hope you enjoy it.

S!

[216th_Peterla]

Hi all,

I have two aircrafts almost ready. Some pics. Just final checks and they will be ready for fly!

[216th_Peterla]

Hi all,

I'm working on an special petition. Here a WIP. I find the winter skins really complicated. I need to figure out if I can do better with the tail boom or leave it like this.

[216th_Peterla]

Hi all,

I'm working on an unusual and beautiful plane. It's Vassili Yemelyanenko (or Emelyanenko) of 7. Gv. ShAP with his colorful Il-2M White 100. His pilot was a musician and the aircraft is clearly special due to the lateral drawing of a plane dancing with a song. I'm still working on it. The small plane is difficult to draw properly and is also difficult to get proper photos of such aircraft.

As per Mr Tessitory comments and drawings, the plane could be with or without stars and I'm doubting to add them or not. Any appreciation or suggestion will be welcome.

Thanks in advance.

 

I'll post some WIP pictures to get an idea of the plane itself.

[Yankee_One]

Hi all,

I have two aircrafts almost ready. Some pics. Just final checks and they will be ready for fly!

Hi Peter,

 

thank you very much!!

 

Thats outstanding. Thank you so much for this "special" beauty

[216th_Peterla]

Hi guys,

I' have another plane from the same unit as Captain Vassili Yemelyanenko. It's also from 7th Gv. ShAP. This time is number 26.

it has the white band on the fuselage and also on the tip of the wings. It's almost finish but I want to check it properly in case I miss something. Some sneak peaks.

S!

[Learstang]

Interesting. It must be from a later time than Yemelyanenko's aeroplane as the AMT-1 Light Brown had been added to make it more in conformance with the summer 1943 painting order. Yemelyanenko's Il-2 was painted in the normal black/green scheme of the 1941 painting order. At any rate an interesting and handsome scheme!

 

Best Regards,

 

Jason

[216th_Peterla]

Hi all,

WIP shots. Looking for info about this aircraft is hard. I only know that the reference that Massimo's give on Sovietwarplanes.com states that the aircraft is maybe from prewar production, an early 1941 single-seater?

 

[Yankee_One]

Hi Peter,

 

you know that i love you

 

This one is one of my favorites. I like the camouflage.

 

 These skins you made are teriffic good. Keep up your work.

 

See you mate!

[Learstang]

This is taken from a couple of photographs that show this Il-2 in a very strange camouflage. It is an example that was captured by the Germans in the early part of the war. It's thought that it is an are early Il-2 as it has the rare metal rear-fuselage (which you have nicely reproduced here!). Excellent work as always! The only thing I might suggest is that you put some panel lines on the fixed vertical stabiliser (fin), as these were fairly pronounced on the metal fuselage versions (the fin was also metal).

 

Best Regards,

 

Jason

Edited March 29, 2015 by Learstang

[216th_Peterla]

This is taken from a couple of photographs that show this Il-2 in a very strange camouflage. It is an example that was captured by the Germans in the early part of the war. It's thought that it is an are early Il-2 as it has the rare metal rear-fuselage (which you have nicely reproduced here!). Excellent work as always! The only thing I might suggest is that you put some panel lines on the fixed vertical stabiliser (fin), as these were fairly pronounced on the metal fuselage versions (the fin was also metal).

 

Best Regards,

 

Jason

Hi Jason, I just read your comment after posting it on the official thread.

I will take a look and try to make the changes asap.

Thanks!

[216th_Peterla]

@Jason,

The tail boom and stabilizer lines are done(they are not final, more improvement can be done.). I will engage the wings soon.

 

[Yankee_One]

Hi Jason

 

thank you very much on Viktor Povinskys book. I have seen a little review about it and you didnt told me that it is so fantastic

 

It will arrive on Thursday. CANT wait!!!!

 

 

Amazon has contacted me that your book ( CANT HARDLY WAIT) needs a little bit time to arrive, but as you mentioned it, it will be around May, also within a month.

 

 

The love to the IL-2 (mainly the arrow until now)  has given me a new friend on this forum (its PETER) who was so kind to make me those skins and some special ones. We both are awaiting these books.

 

 

Have a nice Eastern and nice Holidays

 

LC

Edited April 4, 2015 by LcSummers

[Yankee_One]

@Jason,

The tail boom and stabilizer lines are done(they are not final, more improvement can be done.). I will engage the wings soon.

Hi Peter,

 

very well done with the "rivets" or metal parts. I like it.

 

Do you have any news or better new details on this bird?

 

 

Salute

 

LC

[216th_Peterla]

Hi LC,

I still need to do the wings. I was little busy these days. I will try to get it as soon and best I can. I also wanna try to put some rivest here and there but I will see. I do some test before but I didn't like them. Anyways If I see that I'm unable to do a proper work on the metallic wings I will wait until BOM for this skin(If the IL2 early that we get is a metallic wings one. I still don't know)

 

Also I want to do Suvorov skin(617th ShAP) and other early one from Zavod 30. Those ones are my next ones.

Best regards.

Edited April 4, 2015 by peterla

[Yankee_One]

Hi Peter,

 

 

the multiclolored skin you made is perfect for me. I didnt realized (as i ma no artist) that it had metal parts, so for me its perfect. You don not have to rush, i only wanted to know whats going on.

 

"Bird 21" skin is just another unusal, interesting but nice camouflage. Its a perfect choice. The emblem is nice too.

 

One of many differnces on early planes were the small antenna mast, later types the larger one. This is only one but distinctive feature wich makes me easier to identify early IL.

 

Greetings

 

LC

[Learstang]

Actually LC, I left a good review of Mr. Povinsky's book on Amazon. It is an excellent book (I have it, of course). Peter, the fin definitely looks better with the panel lines. Nice selection for your next skins! About the BOM Il-2, it's hard to tell if it has the metal wings, but it should. Happy Easter to all (although the Orthodox Easter is next weekend!).

 

Best Regards,

 

Jason

Edited April 4, 2015 by Learstang

[216th_Peterla]

Hi guys,

Sorry for the late answer. Here we go:

 

I finally do my best to get the metallic wings a try. I was mostly focused on Massimos drawings to do the wings and tail boom panels. I guess that is a decent attempt to achieve this. Remember that the game simulates wooden wings, meaning that they are going to break like wood, nor metal.

I just uploaded a new version of the skin with the modified metallic surfaces. Same download link as before. I will post and upgrade on the main thread later stating that update but here are some pics.

 

Edit: I forgot to mention that I take a rivet gun from the sheet metal shop to fit those rivets in place. I can guarantee you that are more than a dozen. Anyways the certificates were up to date  .

Edited April 5, 2015 by peterla