Is DM wrong? or is it just that my i have bad internet?

[=81FG=HellKitten]

 

Hello guys, its my first topic in the forum

I started this game only few months ago so im not that skillful.

Plus, i dont think that FM of the German planes i fly in the game are historically accurate but since im only a newbie and do not know much about the actual historical data as well so i wont talk about it in this topic.

 

Anyway!

The video at the top was made by myself about a month ago.

In the video, i hit Lagg-3 with MG151/20 several times but it still flies just fine.

It shocked me at that time, because i know that a lot of parts in Lagg-3 was made with wood so that the structural strength of the plane was not really good.
In addition, as many ppl claims, German 20mm motor cannon was a quite strong and effective weapon against aircrafts.

 

Therefore, i was just wondering..
is there something wrong with my internet?
Or is it the DM or FM that made Lagg-3 survive?

And i can tell you for sure that, that Lagg-3 was not the first Soviet aircraft ive seen which can take that much damage and still files around fine.
(Ive seen some soviet aircrafts doing sharp turns or loof as well after taing damages like that. Sorry that i dont hav a video thou.)

 

Im quite positive about BoS so far even thou i find a lot of things to be fixed/added, and i do not want to start a meaningless argument here.

But.. I still cant believe that i did not set a fire on that Lagg-3 or rip a wing/tail off or something.

Edited February 9, 2015 by HellKitten

[D_Konig]

Might have just been unlucky - it's hard to say without seeing the Lagg up close but it looks like your cannon rounds exploded near the rear of the aircraft and damaged the wings/fuselage - you can see some some pieces of the airframe coming off.

 

Also what youre counting as #2 and #3 hits are just flak explosions behind the aircraft. I dont think you actually landed any hits until around 1:10 honestly and even then they may not have been direct but it's hard to say without seeing the plane up close to be sure.

 

That being said, I wouldn't say it's going to fly "just fine" you probly could have slowed right down and pulled up behind him if you wanted. I've yet to see a Lagg take that much damage and not eventually go down, sooner or later. If it were me I might have left him alone at that point if there were other targets, it would be miraculous if he made it any reasonable distance to his home airfield and landed safely. I'd expect him to crash land shortly or bail out, I often get messages that I shot down a plane sometimes 5 minutes after disengaging and heading off somewhere else.

 

The first smoke trail you're seeing looked like a hit from ground fire and he's venting fuel.

 

Usually if you land a good volley of cannon fire directly center into a Lagg they're done for and go down right away/explode/fall apart/pilot bails out or they stay in the air somehow briefly but eventually crash.

 

I think you're believing you landed way more shots than you actually did.

Edited February 9, 2015 by D_Konig

[Alkyan]

hum... I don't think that it just flies fine. At the end of your video, the lagg is almost destroyed, smoking from everywhere, he's going down in a few minutes from engine failure ! Now you got some good hits but not the accurate steady burst you need to completely tear appart a plane. I think damage model in bos reflects quite well the fragility of ww2 planes. Also I think that the lagg can take a little more punishement than other fighters.

[D_Konig]

The DM is pretty complex, Ive actually witnessed the opposite happen when one short burst to my surprise completely obliterated a plane - must have hit the sweet spot.

 

You can pound on IL2s quite a bit for instance and they can stay up, it all depends on what you hit and what systems of the plane are affected etc.

 

I always try and drag the burst into the canopy and kill the pilot

[Brano]

In the video, i hit Lagg-3 with MG151/20 several times but it still flies just fine.

It shocked me at that time, because i know that a lot of parts in Lagg-3 was made with wood so that the structural strength of the plane was not really good.

Material used for LaGG-3:

Delta drevesina=birch veneers, impregnated with phenolic resin, layered in a mould and formed under pressure at 150degC.Fireproof material with strenght simmilar to its metallic counterparts used in aviation industry.

[=81FG=HellKitten]

 

Material used for LaGG-3:

Delta drevesina=birch veneers, impregnated with phenolic resin, layered in a mould and formed under pressure at 150degC.Fireproof material with strenght simmilar to its metallic counterparts used in aviation industry.

 

Thankx

[Brano]

You are welcome

[Sokol1]

 

 

Might have just been unlucky - it's hard to say without seeing the Lagg up close but it looks like your cannon rounds exploded near the rear of the aircraft and damaged the wings/fuselage - you can see some some pieces of the airframe coming off.

 

Is not that cannon rounds explode near the rear of aircraft, the DM visual effects is delayed (bug), shell explosions, smoke puffs... always appear behind the hit point.

[Livai]

Start to watch this from 3:25 to 4:30 how a Bf-109 with 20mm gunpods try to shot down a Pe-2. Many 20mm and MG17 hits the plane from long and very short distance and nothing happends. This plane still fly

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDiTSQ0D0_E