Any news on the machi C202 and other add ons?

[silent_one]

Been away a while. LAst I was here it was sounding like there was to be a Macchi C202 add on and I guessed there would probably be a lend lease add on opposite it when it hits the store. Anyone heard any more on this subject. I know from ROF planes appear for sale Im guessing its the same format?

[Jason_Williams]

We will announce our plans that include the 202 soon.

 

Jason

[silent_one]

Great news. Its a must have plane for me

[Feathered_IV]

Mmmmm. Malta

[Jason_Williams]

Not Malta.

 

Jason

[wtornado]

And a Yak-9?

[wtornado]

FW's 202's and there were not even there.

 

And no YAK -9 and it was. 

[Major_Hero]

 

Mmmmmmm North Afrika

[II./JG77_Manu*]

Not Malta.

 

Jason

 

Sicily, Operation Husky

P38, Spit Mk5, Mc202, 190-A5, 109-G6, P40,Mustang Mk1, Do217, B26 

Edited February 4, 2015 by Celestiale

[71st_AH_Mastiff]

North Africa, because the texture and map would be to easy. no trees. but sparsely populated oasis, and date trees.

Edited February 4, 2015 by 71st_Mastiff

[II./JG77_Manu*]

North Africa, because the texture and map would be to easy. no trees. but sparsely populated oasis, and date trees.

 

you clearly have never been in north africa, it's not all desert there. The Sahara doesn't start at the coast. There are dozens to 100s of km (depends where you are) from the coast with woods, plants and stuff.

This is like it actually looks there:

 

but would be nice to see the transition from desert to "greenland"

[Feathered_IV]

Darn. Malta would be my ideal choice. Still looking forward to whatever it is you've cooked up though. Sounds like some big plans.

[=EXPEND=Dendro]

I am very happy now.

[71st_AH_Mastiff]

you clearly have never been in north africa, it's not all desert there. The Sahara doesn't start at the coast. There are dozens to 100s of km (depends where you are) from the coast with woods, plants and stuff.

This is like it actually looks there:

 

but would be nice to see the transition from desert to "greenland"

I've been to NA, when I played IL2 1946...

[Willy__]

Hmmm Kuban, Crimea ?

[Feathered_IV]

Might be. Not too many places where the 202 saw action, so it should narrow it down a bit. Goddam. Suspense is killing me.

[II./JG77_Manu*]

I've been to NA, when I played IL2 1946...

between Benghazi and Tobruk, where the front line was in total the longest time, there is a lot of wood and grassland. The peak of the frontline (El Alamein) is of course next to the Nile Delta. And the area of Tunis, where the Germans fought a long Kessel-battle against both the English and Americans, before retreating is a humid, fertile environment. So plenty of proper trees to model

[Phant0m]

we may be getting ahead of ourselves discussing the modelling of trees in NA.

 

Can't wait till they tell us the plan though!

[D_Konig]

All the desert skins make sense in that regard

[Willy__]

Might be. Not too many places where the 202 saw action, so it should narrow it down a bit. Goddam. Suspense is killing me.

 

 

Yeah, when I saw that picture of the 202 WiP I just had to fire up the old 1946 and fly a campaign with it. What a lovely bird! I hope it makes to "BoS world". 

 

Anyways, if they came up with any MTO I'll cry rivers of joy. 

Edited February 4, 2015 by istruba

[Blooddawn1942]

If I remember right, Jason stated several weeks ago, that there will not be a Med/African theater in the next release.

But I am also wondering, which purpose all those desert skins could serve?

[pencon]

MC 200 would also be cool .Oh and also i16

Edited February 4, 2015 by pencon

[silent_one]

Dont understand why so many jumping to conclusion N Africa/ Malta.  The poll was between Macchi and the IAR 81. Both eastern front. I expect there will be a package with one new axis and one new lend lease plane. With or without a new map.  The games going to move forward in evolution.Bit by bit. Not revolution, where you need a whole new stable of planes and a new map to just get started. Once theres enough diversity of planes its easier to port it across to the Med. But thats way off.

[Y-29.Silky]

I don't get it. I don't see how adding the MC.202 over the IAR + many other Luftwaffe aircraft and the Russian P-40 that *actually fought in the battle* are in any way productive, we don't even have the workhorse Ju-52 yet. Seeing a 202 over Stalingrad is jus awkward at the moment. Especially knowing this game isn't ready for another theater.

Edited February 4, 2015 by Silky

[Feathered_IV]

But I am also wondering, which purpose all those desert skins could serve?

When the community was asked to submit suggestions for aircraft skins, many people with a limited sense of continuity posted pictures of Afrika Korps aircraft and examples from other unrelated theatres. These were subsequently picked up and coded into the game as unlocks. There's a bunch of Norway and channel front skins in there too. Doesn't mean we'll be zipping through any fjords anytime soon though.

[SvAF/F19_Klunk]

Machi 202.. must be another Eastern front area :D

 

Gotta love the Italian planes... so good looking!:D

 

From wiki..

 

Eastern Front operations

In May 1942, the 22° Gruppo Caccia, that had reached its operational limit, was replaced by the newly formed 21° Gruppo Autonomo C.T. composed of 356ª, 382ª, 361ª and 386ª Squadriglia. This unit, commanded by Maggiore (Major) Ettore Foschini, brought new C.202s and 18 new Macchi C.200 fighters.^[43] In August 1942, at the beginning of the Soviet offensive they were deployed at the Stalino, Lughansk, Kantemirovka and Millerovo airfields, fighting against the Red Army positions on the east Don river during October–November 1942. the fighters operated in adverse climate conditions (40° to 45° below zero and heavy snow storms) while under heavy Russian fighter-bomber harassment.^{[citation needed]}Under these circumstances, 21° Gruppo - which had 17 C.202s on strength - was rather moderate in deploying the C.202s. Only a total of 17 missions were flown with Folgores on the Eastern Front during a four-month period.^[44] The C.202s were forced to escort C.200s alongside Fiat BR.20Ms and Caproni Ca.311s in attacks against Soviet columns, while facing great numbers of new VVS' fighters. The C.202s also escorted CANT Z.1007bis in reconnaissance missions^{[citation needed]} and German transport aircraft. One of these missions was the escort to Junkers Ju 52s flying to Stalingrad, on 11 December 1942, during which Tenente Pilota Gino Lionello was shot down and had to bail out from his Folgore.^[44]

After the abandonment of advanced airfields between December 1942 - January 1943 at Voroshilovgrad, Stalino and Tscerkow, the Italian air units operated in defensive actions against a more potent Soviet air offensive, mainly using Ilyushin IL-2s Shturmoviks and Petlyakov Pe-2s. In March 1943, the Corpo Aereo Italiano was detached to Odessa airbase joining Reggiane Re. 2000 Héja I of the Hungarian MKHL 1 and 2/1 Vadászszázad and IAR 80C and Bf 109E/G of Romanian FARR 4 and 5 detached at same base and Saki (Crimea) in a holding action against the V-Vs armada of 2,000 aircraft, at a time when Axis air forces only countered with 300 operative aircraft with very small quantities of fuel, munitions and equipment.^{[citation needed]}

The last effective operation of Corpo Aereo Italiano in Russia occurred on 17 January 1943, when one mixed formation of 25 surviving Macchi fighters (out of a remaining total of 30 C.200s and nine C.202s) attacked Red Army armored and motorized infantry columns to support German and Italian units encircled in Millerovo.^[45]

Edited February 4, 2015 by SvAF/F19_Klunk

[voncrapenhauser]

Ooh new toys! New toys!

 

Thanks for the update.

[voncrapenhauser]

Darn. Malta would be my ideal choice. Still looking forward to whatever it is you've cooked up though. Sounds like some big plans.

+1

 

That would be different.

[Sim]

Machi 202.. must be another Eastern front area :D

 

The MC.202 arrived to the eastern front on 1942-09, and left in 1943-02 and operated in support of Italian 8th Army. There was no other major battle/area in between those dates. And since Jason already said no to med/africa theater - I have no idea how MC.202 will be related to their next project and announcement.. unless... it's a map area around Italian 8th Army and Operation Little Saturn? That one would make no sense to be honest.. :-)

 

My best guess is that they will announce their plans for the future - where MC.202 is just a premium plane sold through the store (unrelated to current maps like Fw 190) and then maybe some other expansion with new map and planes that will be sold as bundle together.

 

If I had to choose.. that one would be Crimea.. with siege of Sevastopol, assault on Kerch and plenty of naval action.

Edited February 4, 2015 by Sim

[mb339pan]

Can't wait for 202!!! :wacko:

[Feathered_IV]

[IIN8II]

We will announce our plans that include the 202 soon.

 

Jason

pumped!

[LLv24_Zami]

I hope they stay on the eastern front for now. Lots of good battles there to fly.

 

Hopefully we dont have to guess very long  . Really looking forward to hear your new plans!

[duko]

any news on IAR 80 ?

[=AVG=Zombie]

C'mon, P-39 all the way, at the minimum a P-40..... Booya

[A-E-Hartmann]

any news on IAR 80 ?

I think he was announced that he would not.

[DD_Arthur]

 

My best guess is that they will announce their plans for the future - where MC.202 is just a premium plane sold through the store (unrelated to current maps like Fw 190) and then maybe some other expansion with new map and planes that will be sold as bundle together.

 

If I had to choose.. that one would be Crimea.. with siege of Sevastopol, assault on Kerch and plenty of naval action.

 

 I think your best guess is going to be the correct one.  I also like the idea of a Crimean campaign too.  A good way to make use of the water technology they possess from RoF's channel map. 

[Jade_Monkey]

I also think that the planes and theaters are not going to be 100% related.

 

I would love to see some green and some ocean, either in a summer map or at least in a greener area of north Africa.

 

It would be kinda lame to do full desert maps after doing all white, now all brown....

[ShamrockOneFive]

The MC.202 arrived to the eastern front on 1942-09, and left in 1943-02 and operated in support of Italian 8th Army. There was no other major battle/area in between those dates. And since Jason already said no to med/africa theater - I have no idea how MC.202 will be related to their next project and announcement.. unless... it's a map area around Italian 8th Army and Operation Little Saturn? That one would make no sense to be honest.. :-)

 

My best guess is that they will announce their plans for the future - where MC.202 is just a premium plane sold through the store (unrelated to current maps like Fw 190) and then maybe some other expansion with new map and planes that will be sold as bundle together.

 

If I had to choose.. that one would be Crimea.. with siege of Sevastopol, assault on Kerch and plenty of naval action.

 

I hope they still try and focus as closely on scenario and aircraft set as possible. They did a really good job of it (FW190 excepted) with Battle for Stalingrad and even the FW190 they did a decent job of providing the very specific model that was at least on the front at the time. I imagine the MC.202 falls into this. My guess is near term we might see a Summer and/or Fall scenario for Stalingrad which would draw in a lot of possible aircraft additions. If the Italians were at least nearby in the fall and aircraft like the I-16 were still fighting in the summer (the only other type they have strongly hinted at or confirmed is coming) then my guess is an earlier look at the Stalingrad battle. It'd make a lot of people happy with something other than endless winter

 

Personally I'm hoping for Kuban being the next addon as its the major battle after Stalingrad and it could have the P-39 and Spitfire. Crimea would probably be on the map anyways (like the DCS Black Sea map).

[silent_one]

I think I need to keep coming back to the fact ITS A GAME. So what if there arnt c202's at Stalingrad. I can get over the name of a map and fly happily thinking Im " somewhere on the eastern front 1943 or whatever"  I dont need some rivet counter telling me where and when. The dogfighting is in the air not the ground. I couldn't care less about the detail on the ground and where Im supposed to be. The meeting place is the sky. A change from white would make orientation easier though . But as the Starks say . "Winter is coming"