Gunsight toggle keymap ?

[D_Konig]

I'm not sure what I did, but I had (maybe by default on installation) a key mapped to my joystick that would toggle my pilots head to the gunsight view (where he leans in and is centered on the gunsights in the 109s specifically, i do 95% of my flying there).

 

I pressed something by accident and screwed up my camera angles, now I can't seem to get it centered properly anymore (trackIR5) but more importantly and the reason for this post , I can't for the life of me figure out how to set a way to view the gunsight ? If I press NUMPAD 5 + NUMPAD 7,8 or 9 it will come up but that seems to be it, and only if I hold them down together. I can't find a key mapped for it anywhere in the controls for the game.

 

Help?

 

[taffy2jeffmorgan]

F12 usually gets your line of sight to gun sight via Track IR. 

[Jade_Monkey]

I had the same thing happen to me.

 

 

The F10 key has two functions.

1. For TrackIR it turns it ON?OFF
2. For the game, sets your current view as centered. I think this is plane specific iirc, so you migh have this issue with just a single plane and the others might be fine.

 

I would do the following:

• Turn off Track IR
• Start the game
• Get on the plane with which you have the issue.
• press Numeric 5 to center the view.
• Press F10 to make it the default center again.

After that you should be able to use trackIR (game restart needed probably).

[D_Konig]

I can get it set again, but the game still wants me to hold down the key to keep the gunsight up. When trackIR is disabled, the toggle works fine, but when its enabled, I have to hold down the key or it just reverts back to to center mode. Holding down one key while trying to fly the stick and fire cannons and machine guns at the same time is.. dumb..

 

why is this so overly complicated? why isn't there just a "toggle gunsight view" like in every other IL2 game/common sense ever made ?

[71st_AH_Mastiff]

I can get it set again, but the game still wants me to hold down the key to keep the gunsight up. When trackIR is disabled, the toggle works fine, but when its enabled, I have to hold down the key or it just reverts back to to center mode. Holding down one key while trying to fly the stick and fire cannons and machine guns at the same time is.. dumb..

 

why is this so overly complicated? why isn't there just a "toggle gunsight view" like in every other IL2 game/common sense ever made ?

because you need to rekey bind the track ir to rshft-home, rshft-ins, rshft-page up to your tracker pause, recenter, and off. and free up those key in BOS for the setting you have.

[FlyingH]

When using TIR and you center to the gunsight you will go out of center as soon as you move your head the slightest! Easiest way to avoid this is to give the TIR a deadband in the middle of every "movement" x,y,z, pitch, roll and yaw. Then you dont need to pause TIR every time! Another solution could be a combined command "center to GS + TIR pause" giving the TIR pause a cammand not used in game! I have TIR center ALT GR + F12, pause ALT GR + F11, I add these comms to the "ingame comms" I need! These comms I never use in any game! If they are there ingame I give them other keybindings. Experiment with your setting combinations util you find one that satisfies your needs!

Edited January 14, 2015 by FlyingH

[ST_ami7b5]

I have mapped my TIR center function to a joystick button (G940 JS - the pinky front bottom button).

[361fundahl]

Me too, I look around a lot and just press a center button when I need to and zoom in on gunsight.

 

Use f9 to make sure your camera is in "pan" mode.

[Sokol1]

There a momentary command (hold) with Keypad Del + Keypad #8 that's show gunsight with maximum zoom and centered, similar to "Lean to gunsight" of other game... See:

 

 

First I set the center view offset ( whit Page Down and Delete keys), to simulate the TrackIR offset (in Bf 109).

Pressing a joy' button the camera focus on centered and magnify gunsight (the speed can be adjusted in camera parameters).

 

See on MK.MRX videos.

 

At end o video I press the Keypad 5 key, that recenter the game camera by default.

 

Since this is momentary command is need set a macro with joy' software or keymapper (Xpader...) to became toggle like in the video.

 

Mack674

 

You can record a track with your issue? Maybe this help people understand the problem.

 

Zip the file, a track have a file and a folder with the same name.

Edited January 14, 2015 by Sokol1

[D_Konig]

I just want to map a key somewhere preferrably on the joystick where it was originally, that takes the camera to the gunsight and stays fixed there until I press it again.

 

I tried even pausing trackir and doing this but it still wont stay, it always wants me to hold the key down and returns to center view when I let go, so im forced to contort my head behind the gunsight very precisely and its very difficult to keep crosshairs centered.

 

Alternatively i could put center view on the crosshairs, but in the 109s i fly, i find this disorienting because the gunsights are offcenter-right of the pilot.

[Sokol1]

Mack674,

 

Funnily seems that you are the first guy asking for offset (as IRL) gunsight in Bf 109 in games. Most people want the (gamey) solution always centered. 

 

I fiddle with this but dont discover what is this "a key somewhere preferably on the joystick where it was originally".

 

Maybe this Bf 109 G x TrackIR topic help: http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/6455-bf-109-g2-and-trackir-center-view/?hl=%2Bsnapview&do=findComment&comment=117916

 

Backup the LUA files and try reset the Bf 109 (one for each model) view for original.

[D_Konig]

I tried deleting all the LUA files but it seems as though everything is saved in your profile, server side. I even set everything back to default, Uninstalled and reinstalled the game.. nothing.

 

Its so weird, theres no keymap for it - just by default when i first booted up the game, one of the keys near my forefinger on my joystick would just toggle gunsight on and off. No problem.

 

Bought a trackir5 and played with that for a week or two, no problem.

 

Accidentally hit f10 a couple times, and now it seems impossible to get it back.

 

Its so irritating because it should be so simple to fix. I play Cliffs of Dover alot as well and like I said before , Toggle gunsight = insert key... that simple.

 

Ugh.

[StG2_Manfred]

There a momentary command (hold) with Keypad Del + Keypad #8 that's show gunsight with maximum zoom and centered, similar to "Lean to gunsight" of other game... See:

 

 

 

First I set the center view offset ( whit Page Down and Delete keys), to simulate the TrackIR offset (in Bf 109).

Pressing a joy' button the camera focus on centered and magnify gunsight (the speed can be adjusted in camera parameters).

 

See on MK.MRX videos.

 

At end o video I press the Keypad 5 key, that recenter the game camera by default.

 

Since this is momentary command is need set a macro with joy' software or keymapper (Xpader...) to became toggle like in the video.

 

@Sokol: MrX is also switching immediately between certain zoom views. Do you have a clue how this works? Because I can only zoom in and zoom out in an animated way which takes some time.

[Sokol1]

I think is adjusting fixed snap views - every keypad number has one - and then setting a joystick button to press the keys in sequence, similar to Delete, End, Pag Down of il-2'46 for FOV 30, 70, 90.

[Willy__]

 

 

@Sokol: MrX is also switching immediately between certain zoom views. Do you have a clue how this works? Because I can only zoom in and zoom out in an animated way which takes some time.

 

As an alternative to what Sokol said, you can ajust the zoom speed and all other camera speed on the Camera menu   

[StG2_Manfred]

I think is adjusting fixed snap views - every keypad number has one - and then setting a joystick button to press the keys in sequence, similar to Delete, End, Pag Down of il-2'46 for FOV 30, 70, 90.

 

@Sokol: Do you think so? Snapviews always look in a certain direction, right to the front, or 45° to the left and so on (correct or am I wrong?) Mr.X apparently can freely look around (with TIR probabaly) and can switch between zoom view and a wider FOV in no time (when you use snapview it also take a moment because it moves in a motion to the new position). I'm really puzzled because I get no idea how he's doing this.

 

@istruba: Thank you for your advice, will test it, but I also want to know how this works (Mr.X view) 

[Yakdriver]

speeding up the zoom rate is almost instatataneous. (or something like that)

[Sokol1]

Bah, be setting zoom speed at 100% you are ruining the zoom function for look at other things (e.g. inside cockpit),

better use a snap view - like the default Keypad Del + Keypad #8 (100% gunsight "zoom" with one press). 

[Willy__]

Bah, be setting zoom speed at 100% you are ruining the zoom function for look at other things (e.g. inside cockpit), better use a snap view - like the default Keypad Del + Keypad #8 (100% gunsight "zoom" with one press). 

 

Maybe the best compromise is setting the zoom speed at 100% and set snap views for the instruments/cockpit... I guess ? 

 

-edit-

 

Personally I use the mouse wheel to zoom in and out as I have one on my joystick (saitek X65F) and hopefuly I dont have any zoom problems.

Edited January 19, 2015 by istruba

[StG2_Manfred]

I found the solution. There is one key for reset pilots headzoom, which I use to zoom out. And for zoom in I just set the camera speed higher - works quite well now.

 

Thanks gents

[Sokol1]

Mack674,

 

Ask for this guy send to you his Input folder, seems that his commands do what you want (toggle gunsight). 

 

http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/14165-gunsight-zoom/

[Mikey]

Now this same problem happened to me and I dont understand what has changed... when I pause Trackir and use HAT switch it used to always return view to center in gun sight..now it returns to where view was paused at and there is no way for it to be changed back it seems. I didnt change any keybinding. Can anyone help me out here? only way to fix it is if i press esc, while tracklir is paused then any snap view movement automatically centers back to the centered view but as soon as i unpause tracker and pause again and use a snap view once i release it goes back to the paused location and not back to default center view...

Edited July 8, 2017 by Mikey

[Sokol1]

Probable you change camera mode by accidentally hit F9, why POV return to previous point instead to center.

 

Test cycling with F9 between various camera mode.

Edited July 8, 2017 by Sokol1

[Mikey]

Probable you change camera mode by accidentally hit F9, why POV return to previous point instead to center.

 

Test cycling with F9 between various camera mode.

Ive just tried this and its still doing same thing. even if I use mouse to look around while trackir is paused once i stop input it returns to the pre paused trackir position

[Mikey]

Is there someway to reset all settings. I cant fix this if my life depended on it been trying for hours and nothing is working.

[Tiestilha]

Is there someway to reset all settings. I cant fix this if my life depended on it been trying for hours and nothing is working.

 

There's a button in the key binding menu to reset all assign buttons to the default ones and start over.

[ARM505]

Also, if you press F10, it saves that POV as the 'default' POV and resets the Track IR to that view when you reset it. I don't know if I'm talking about the same thing, but I had to move around in my chair IRL until I had the view I wanted with the gun sight centered, then press F10 again. Then I could move back to where I wanted to sit (IRL) and reset the Track IR, and the view would be back to where I had set it with F10.

 

That's probably a bad explanation.

[Sky_Wolf]

This is how you map a gunsight view:

 

1. While on ground in cockpit, push F9 to disable TrackIR

2. Push and hold your HAT switch forward (the analog button on top of your flight stick) - You will be looking up into the sky by default

3. Continue to hold the HAT switch forward - With your other hand, move your mouse so that your view moves to the front of the cockpit and gunsight - Make sure that the view is centered

4. Continue to hold the HAT switch forward - Now use the "Home", "End", "Insert", "Delete", "PgUp", and "PgDn" keys to adjust the position of your virtual head in the cockpit - Move your virtual head using these keys until the gunsight is centered and zoomed in

5. Continue to hold the HAT switch forward - Push F10 to save

6. You now have a gunsight view. Simply push and hold the HAT switch forward and you will now be looking down your gunsight.

 

I personally don't use the gunsight view... I prefer to just zoom in and out as needed with other buttons on the flight stick and adjust my head position on the fly using TrackIR. 

[duko]

On 9/9/2017 at 9:42 PM, Sky_Wolf said:

This is how you map a gunsight view:

 

1. While on ground in cockpit, push F9 to disable TrackIR

2. Push and hold your HAT switch forward (the analog button on top of your flight stick) - You will be looking up into the sky by default

3. Continue to hold the HAT switch forward - With your other hand, move your mouse so that your view moves to the front of the cockpit and gunsight - Make sure that the view is centered

4. Continue to hold the HAT switch forward - Now use the "Home", "End", "Insert", "Delete", "PgUp", and "PgDn" keys to adjust the position of your virtual head in the cockpit - Move your virtual head using these keys until the gunsight is centered and zoomed in

5. Continue to hold the HAT switch forward - Push F10 to save

6. You now have a gunsight view. Simply push and hold the HAT switch forward and you will now be looking down your gunsight.

 

I personally don't use the gunsight view... I prefer to just zoom in and out as needed with other buttons on the flight stick and adjust my head position on the fly using TrackIR. 

I know old post here but i have the same problem, i can setup a "lean to gunsight view" , the trackir is paused and view is fixed on gunsight then but i have to keep that button pressed in order to function , i know it works without keeping keybind pressed in "Fixed quick view mode F9" but this mode does not work with Trackir activated, with Trackir activated on "Pan camera view mode works"

Basically i want to simulate IL-2 CLOD - lean to gunsight view without needing to keep the keybind pressed while using Trackir , i need  a toggle function to stay in that view 

 

It kinda works if i use numpad 5 to modify to have that as "lean to gunsight view" but i loose the centered view cockpit then 

Edited January 1, 2023 by duko

[Zooropa_Fly]

For the main centered gunsight, I've never understood the need for any of this faffing around with Track IR and quick views.

F10 once only for each plane to set the view centered on the sight.

Put a small dead zone in the center of your tracking to help keep the view steady when aiming, and speed up zoom in/out to suit.

You can be looking out the side window, and zoom straight to your sight in a fraction of a second.

 

S!

[RossMarBow]

On 1/14/2015 at 7:31 PM, D_Konig said:

I can get it set again, but the game still wants me to hold down the key to keep the gunsight up. When trackIR is disabled, the toggle works fine, but when its enabled, I have to hold down the key or it just reverts back to to center mode. Holding down one key while trying to fly the stick and fire cannons and machine guns at the same time is.. dumb..

 

why is this so overly complicated? why isn't there just a "toggle gunsight view" like in every other IL2 game/common sense ever made ?

 

Theirs a folder with all your cockpit head positions saved in it.

In the same folder is another folder called defaults.
Delete the ones your using now then copy paste in the defaults.

 

I just run defaults for everything, and use open track to move my head foward and up a little bit.