Colour picture of a 109 being shot down

[Leaf]

First colour picture of its kind I've seen. I hope the pilot got out in time.

 

 

An aircraft from JG7. Source:http://thirdreichcolorpictures.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Aircrafts

 

 

 

EDIT: Scratch that.. It's a Ha 1112. Sorry for the misleading title...

Edited January 11, 2015 by 19te.Leaf

[361fundahl]

wwii gun cams are just crazy.... much different than modern jet "fights"

[unreasonable]

Interesting - you know how allied crews, especially USAAF bomber gunners, often wildly overclaimed claimed kills on German 109s because they saw heavy smoke from the engine - I think this is the same illusion.

 

This is not a 109 (as OP says), nor is it a gun camera shot, and the plane has not been hit, (IMHO) what you are seeing is heavy exhaust smoke from a rapid change of throttle.

[CorsairHundo]

Interesting - you know how allied crews, especially USAAF bomber gunners, often wildly overclaimed claimed kills on German 109s because they saw heavy smoke from the engine - I think this is the same illusion.This is not a 109 (as OP says), nor is it a gun camera shot, and the plane has not been hit, (IMHO) what you are seeing is heavy exhaust smoke from a rapid change of throttle.

If that smoke is from a rapid change of throttle then it was only a matter of (soon) time before it puked all,over itself!

[Pierre64]

Interesting - you know how allied crews, especially USAAF bomber gunners, often wildly overclaimed claimed kills on German 109s because they saw heavy smoke from the engine - I think this is the same illusion.This is not a 109 (as OP says).

...And not a Daimler Benz engine: HA-1112 Buchón was equipped with a Rolls Royce Merlin.

[FlatSpinMan]

Looks almost like a P-40 from that angle, doesn't it? Interesting pic to see, regardless of the details.

[1./JG42Nephris]

Tbh I guess the screenshot was coloured. Duinno why, but the saturation looks rather unnatural even for those old celluloid stripes.

Neverthelss nice find.

 

From Top view it looks more like a Buchon, probably shadows and lighting playing games here however.

[unreasonable]

 

Surely a Buchon - here is another clearer pic from a slightly different angle, you can see the "humps" over the exhausts in both. Still be interesting to know exactly what would cause such extravagant exhaust fumes.

[SvAF/F16_Dark_P]

Action shot from the movie Battle of Britain?

[unreasonable]

Action shot from the movie Battle of Britain?

 

Do not think so, IIRC BoB used the standard factory colours for 1940 109s,

[Cybermat47]

Do not think so, IIRC BoB used the standard factory colours for 1940 109s,

The Buchons in BoB looked beautiful

[Finkeren]

Hmmmmm, the more I look at that picture, the more of an enigma it becomes.

 

I'd say with 99% certainty, that it's a Buchon, there's just no way that spinner and that lower cowling is anything else. But what plane is it? The picture looks colorized, and the unusual camo seem to reflect the strange brownish colors that you see on some erroneus 1960s reconstructions of RLM camouflage, so we propably can't tell anything from the colors. The markings are clearly later reconstructions of late-war German fighter insignias with what looks to be Reichsverteidigung bands around the tail (but then again we propably can't trust the colors), in reality the white outlines of the balkenkreuz on the wings were much narrower. The plane itself also lacks the fake gun barrels in the wings and the semi-squared-off wing tips of the 'BoB' Buchons. It seems to be pretty much in its original configuration. Strangely enough you can't see the tailwheel, which I think was locked down on all Buchons and should be clear in view at that angle, but it's propably just obscured by the smoke. 

 

I'd really like to know the story behind that picture. It could well be real engine damage we see with that smoke, maybe there's data on the accident somewhere?

[von_Tom]

Definitely a Buchon going by the position of the exhaust stacks.  But if you want something that is "plane" wrong...

 

Hood

 

Edited January 19, 2015 by von_Tom

[Finkeren]

Bingo! I think I might have identified the aircraft. It's propably G-BOML/166238, which did at some point carry this livery:

 

 

 

The pic might not be colorized after all, but just slightly altered in hue due to lighting or a poor camera.

Edited January 19, 2015 by Finkeren

[SvAF/F16_Dark_P]

Yeah that looks right, good job!

[Finkeren]

 

 

 

By a funny coincidence, that planes registration code spells out exactly the sound I made, when I saw that picture.

[KaC_Furias]

Hi fellas 

 

Der Stern Von Afrika movie :

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7IyZg1IzxM

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Stern_von_Afrika

 

 

"Eduard Neumann, the former Geschwaderkommodore (wing commander) of Jagdgeschwader 27 (27th fighter wing) and Marseille's commanding officer, served as a technical advisor on the film.^[3]

The Messerschmitt Bf 109s shown in the film were postwar Hispano built Ha 1109 versions with French-designed Spanish built Hispano-Suiza 12Z 12-cylinder upright-Vee Engines that fitted the sleek contours of the Bf 109 with an inverted-Vee Engine well. A variant of this aircraft starred twelve years later in the well-known movie Battle of Britain. "

really curious