Philx123 Posted December 29, 2014 Author Posted December 29, 2014 You can turn off motion blur: go to the Camera settings menu (I think that's it), and turn off the "Cinematics" option. That will remove motion blur and other cinematic effects (though admittedly I'm not too sure what those are, beyond motion blur). Thanks for that. I take a quick delve.
BladeMeister Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 If it makes it easier for the developer to stay in business it benefits all of us. That is absolutely a classic BSR! [Edited] Very funny Dr. Jones! Moderated 12/29/2014 1915 EST Let's not get personal.
[KWN]T-oddball Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 So? These other games would still save time and resources if they used graphic presets like BOS does... they just choose not to. Just because most other games allow full customization does not mean the benefits of presets don't exist. They obviously do. Most other games simply accept the added burden as necessary for PC games. 777 doesn't... is it the best decision? Maybe not, but the benefits ARE real, and that's why we get presets. [Edited] Moderated 12/29/2014 1822 EST
SCG_Space_Ghost Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 (edited) [Edited] I wouldn't go there if I were you... I learned pretty quick from that one. I see it this way: There is indeed tangible, REAL benefits to custom graphics options for every individual system. My ability to optimize the graphics for MY individual system will always supersede the ability of the developer... However, as far as that poster goes... Anything you say, do, refute, cite, prove, research, etc, etc, etc. will fall on his deaf ears. He doesn't (and seems to refuse) hearing a good argument because he simply doesn't want to. He likes the presets and has no perceivable personal reason for doing so except the fact that he feels it simplified QA - which may or may not be true, but the baseline engine/graphics developments seem to be slowing down or have stopped altogether so I don't buy the "REAL" benefits to presets that he has been touting. All in all... We know the difference and don't have to play ignorant just because that's the game that he likes to play. Moderated 12/29/2014 1823 EST Edited December 29, 2014 by Bearcat
1CGS LukeFF Posted December 29, 2014 1CGS Posted December 29, 2014 Falke, despite what you and others may think, having an opinion contrary to your own does not mean one has a vested interest in 777 or refuses to listen to other's opinions.
[KWN]T-oddball Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 Falke, despite what you and others may think, having an opinion contrary to your own does not mean one has a vested interest in 777 or refuses to listen to other's opinions. except when [Edited], there is no way this argument ends with 777 in a good light....you don’t tell your customers how they will use their equipment....some people have very low end rigs and need to squeeze everything they can out of them and some have $400+ video cards and did not pay that amount to have them micromanaged from 777 HQ. Moderated 12/29/2014 1825 EST
sturmkraehe Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 (edited) So? These other games would still save time and resources if they used graphic presets like BOS does... they just choose not to. Just because most other games allow full customization does not mean the benefits of presets don't exist. They obviously do. Most other games simply accept the added burden as necessary for PC games. 777 doesn't... is it the best decision? Maybe not, but the benefits ARE real, and that's why we get presets. Yes, as certain restrictive laws benefit certain authoritarian regimes. Be sure, some laws in some East Asian countries on the ways how to use the internet is not for the benefit of its people but for the government alone despite what their head of state claims. Sorry for that bit of sarcasm. And no, it does not benefit me. OK, if they have presets during development phase but now we are in post-development. No game develper EXCEPT BoS devs seems to care about how their users might tweak their graphics. It annoys me to be told like a school boy how my game should look and not look like. And beware for the moment this bad example is taken over by other game developers if it is so benefitial as you claim. You know, every tendency has inflationary tendencies. In five years we won't even have presets but just one Volks-computer with one Volks-graphic setting for all without choices. Once there had been a State that offered its citizen one car type only named Trabant ... oh glorious future. Edited December 29, 2014 by sturmkraehe
33lima Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 Perhaps we could express opinions here, without attacking or impugning the integrity, intelligence or motives of others. 1
BraveSirRobin Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 That is absolutely a classic BSR! Lmao over and over and over. Such is the next generation of PC Simulation intelligence? Or maybe lack of intelligence? You are really serious aren't you. Hahahahahahahahahah that is priceless, thanks for the laugh again. Very funny Dr. Jones! Damned right that I'm serious. [Edited] Moderated 12/29/2014 1828 EST Please do not get personal with comments on these boards.
Bearcat Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 Perhaps we could express opinions here, without attacking or impugning the integrity, intelligence or motives of others. It would be nice. In addition to the indirect political comments. 2
[KWN]T-oddball Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 (edited) I wouldn't go there if I were you... I learned pretty quick from that one. Moderated 12/29/2014 1823 EST quick is defiantly the operative word here.... *sigh* Bearcat was that you? Edited December 29, 2014 by T-oddball
Bearcat Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 quick is defiantly the operative word here.... *sigh* Bearcat was that you? Yes it was. Look guys.. we don't need to fan any flames. If you want to discuss, debate,complain,praise.. whatever.. you have the right and the option to do so but when you start talking about some of the things that have been bandied about of late, insinuating things about the devs or the motives of posters.. you begin to cross lines and when posts become combative or hostile to other members because they do not share your opinion of the sim as it is.. regardless to which "side" you fall on your posts will be moderated.
1./KG4_Blackwolf Posted December 29, 2014 Posted December 29, 2014 Some people just like to tweak the settings to get the most out of it, or they have to in order to get it to run smooth. Some can't just go upgrade they have to make do with what they have, but still want to play the game. I've got a good enough rig to run it without tweaking it, But I always think...hey what if I could turn this down and/or turn that up? What would that do? The guys that need to be able to do that are on the losing end here. It should be as EA was where you could change it for those that need it. I had IL2 (with SH1) for at least 4 months and I couldn't run it until I bought a new computer, mine was so slow I could only play DOS golf games! Once I got a new one.. IL2 was the first game I loaded, so I feel for the guys who really want to play/ try it out and just cant because the presets are holding them back from running it as it should run. 1
dburne Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 My previous posts in this thread have been edited. I've deleted them. I'd rather they didn't appear here at all than appearing in snipped/edited format. Thanks. I'm out. I'm done. This place, this game is just too restrictive for me. One less "hater" for y'all to stamp on. I'll read, I'll hope, I'll wish things improve. GL HF. Sorry to see that and I certainly do not blame you. However, you are giving " them" what they want... hope you at least stick around some.
prco Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 I was looking for a game for me, wingman of mine and maybe even a couple more, and i've been skimming through different forums regarding bos, things that are of interest to me. You know what feeling you leave for someone willing to join? Check numbers, those quite comply.You just made a guy with nighly 4000 posts go away, wonder if you noticed?Some guy, who made manuals for every plane- gone.Numbers of bans you disclosed on other forum.The way some guys from management speak, that was cited somwhere.And that's just a quick gather.You're killing this game with your attitude alone.It never rose to fly.. Stop tying it.And it's not an offtopic. Attitude concerns the matter at hand as well.It looks awful from aside.Meanwile, citing the departed, "GL HF" My previous posts in this thread have been edited. I've deleted them. I'd rather they didn't appear here at all than appearing in snipped/edited format. Thanks. I'm out. I'm done. This place, this game is just too restrictive for me. One less "hater" for y'all to stamp on.I'll read, I'll hope, I'll wish things improve. GL HF. 2
Bearcat Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 I was looking for a game for me, wingman of mine and maybe even a couple more, and i've been skimming through different forums regarding bos, things that are of interest to me. You know what feeling you leave for someone willing to join? Check numbers, those quite comply. You just made a guy with nighly 4000 posts go away, wonder if you noticed? Some guy, who made manuals for every plane- gone. Numbers of bans you disclosed on other forum. The way some guys from management speak, that was cited somwhere. And that's just a quick gather. You're killing this game with your attitude alone. It never rose to fly.. Stop tying it. And it's not an offtopic. Attitude concerns the matter at hand as well. It looks awful from aside. Meanwile, citing the departed, "GL HF" I didn't make him go away. He left of his own accord and this thread has been moderated across a very diverse opinion set but it has been and will be moderated until such time as it is shut down if it comes to that. While his presence and contributions to this community will be missed, as will the contributions of another forum member you mentioned.. this forum and this sim are far from dead. There are 4 major updates planned for early 2015 and we just got a major update with two additional smaller ones 4 days ago. You and your mates would be a welcome addition to the community should you chose to be a part of it, but this forum is not a free for all zone where anything goes.
Feathered_IV Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 Thanks Yankee_ for taking the time to explain the system of presets from a developers perspective and your own professional experience. What you are saying makes perfect sense. 1
Original_Uwe Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) OP the answer is simply that the devs have your money and no longer care what you think. We might see some of these vital changes when they try selling us on different theatres or games. "Look we have given you everything you wanted from the last sim so but the new one!". I mean come on. Looking at what we asked for and expressed a like of and consequent dev actions is easy to see that we do not, in any way, factor into what the devs do. The only thing we can do now is starve the beast. Make everyone see it for what it is despite the purchased positive reviews from media outlets. Spread the word, this thing is poison. Edited December 30, 2014 by forsale
CorsairHundo Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 This isn't going to stop unless you just close the forum down. Instead of deleting and editing the posts, why not just address the concerns? I understand a forum is not a civil liberty but I don't see anyone threating others, swearing at each other but posts are still deleted. The oringinal posts are emailed if you've subscribed to and reading the oringinal posts and then seeing them edited, ok. Seems that there's some thin skin when it comes to not saying that all is pretty and sweet with BOS. Kind of mind boggling about some of the responses when it comes to its more important to do what's right for the devs instead of the customers. Also not everyone visits the forums that owns the game, which may be good but it should be a place to visit to share their experiences and possible questions, especially since there isn't even a manual. What should be scary to this team here are the ones lurking, not saying a word but waiting to see how everything is handled. Oh well time will tell, always does.
BladeMeister Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 If it makes it easier for the developer to stay in business it benefits all of us. That is absolutely a classic BSR! Lmao over and over and over. Such is the next generation of PC Simulation intelligence? Or maybe lack of intelligence? You are really serious aren't you?Hahahahahahahahahah that is priceless, thanks for the laugh again. Very funny Dr. Jones! Damned right that I'm serious. [Edited] Moderated 12/29/2014 1828 EST Please do not get personal with comments on these boards. There is no need to censor this. BSR made me laugh and I asked him a serious question, then I figured out he really is serious. That made me laugh even more and I thanked him for it. I did not attack or insult him in anyway shape or form. It is quite customary to laugh when someone says something funny, whether they are being serious or not. "Very Funny Dr. Jones" is a quote from the second Indiana Jones movie, "The Temple of Doom" . Please don't be so heavy handed in moderating here, I would be entertained to read what response BSR had to that, as he is an entertaining guy whom I have found quite humorous both here and in the ROF Forum. Please oblige me???
Feathered_IV Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 OP the answer is simply that the devs have your money and no longer care what you think. We might see some of these vital changes when they try selling us on different theatres or games. "Look we have given you everything you wanted from the last sim so but the new one!". I mean come on. Looking at what we asked for and expressed a like of and consequent dev actions is easy to see that we do not, in any way, factor into what the devs do. The only thing we can do now is starve the beast. Make everyone see it for what it is despite the purchased positive reviews from media outlets. Spread the word, this thing is poison. [Edited] Moderated 12/29/2014
Original_Uwe Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) Me thinks tovarishch loft et al were soviet bureaucrats prior to their game design careers. In soviet russia, game plays you! How very clever of you. Now run off back to the ATAG forums and post a link to your stupid message so they can all pat you on the back...Im not very active there. No need as the game is developing swimmingly.And all the other negative posts gone in 3...2...1... Edit: ok mods I'll play your game, my post minus the call for revolt: OP the answer is simply that the devs have your money and no longer care what you think. We might see some of these vital changes when they try selling us on different theatres or games. "Look we have given you everything you wanted from the last sim so but the new one!". I mean come on. Looking at what we asked for and expressed a like of and consequent dev actions is easy to see that we do not, in any way, factor into what the devs do. Edited December 30, 2014 by forsale
Bearcat Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 Enough. To all the posters whose posts have been edited. These kinds of posts are provocative and only serve top incite tensions, flame wars and exacerbate the bad feelings that need to go away from this discussion in order to move forward. If you want to praise or criticize the sim please do so without the personal comments directed at each other or this development team or the moderators here. If you feel that you cannot do that then please post elsewhere.
Bearcat Posted December 30, 2014 Posted December 30, 2014 There is no need to censor this. BSR made me laugh and I asked him a serious question, then I figured out he really is serious. That made me laugh even more and I thanked him for it. I did not attack or insult him in anyway shape or form. It is quite customary to laugh when someone says something funny, whether they are being serious or not. "Very Funny Dr. Jones" is a quote from the second Indiana Jones movie, "The Temple of Doom" . Please don't be so heavy handed in moderating here, I would be entertained to read what response BSR had to that, as he is an entertaining guy whom I have found quite humorous both here and in the ROF Forum. Please oblige me??? Because this post was not recieved in the manner in which you say you intended it. I suggest a PM to BSR if you intentions were as you say. Me thinks tovarishch loft et al were soviet bureaucrats prior to their game design careers. In soviet russia, game plays you! How very clever of you. [Edited] Im not very active there. No need as the game is developing swimmingly. And all the other negative posts gone in 3...2...1... Edit: ok mods I'll play your game, my post minus the call for revolt: OP the answer is simply that the devs have your money and no longer care what you think. We might see some of these vital changes when they try selling us on different theatres or games. "Look we have given you everything you wanted from the last sim so but the new one!". I mean come on. Looking at what we asked for and expressed a like of and consequent dev actions is easy to see that we do not, in any way, factor into what the devs do. This is your opinion. You have no idea what the devs think.
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