Battle of Moscow next?

[Rjel]

I would think at some point, to have a somewhat fully fleshed out the sim, AI planes might have to become a part of the future in BoS' follow-ons. At least in the short term until cockpits might get added. It would certainly speed up the introduction of those add-ons. As far as add-ons go, I certainly hope that they can be linked as in IL-2. I love pitting different plane sets against others that maybe never met in combat in RL. I enjoy the what ifs that sims offer.

[Trooper117]

RoF has been going for years now without AI planes... They have said there will be no AI planes, following the same model as RoF... it's pretty clear.

Many of us were asking for an AI plane set for RoF just to flesh out glaring gaps in the two seater and early war areas, but it was a flat no.

[Lord_Haw-Haw]

Well lets see, if aircraft that played a major roll in certain theatres are added when

the theatres are made, or left out because they don´t belong to the flashy fighter group.

Just need to think of late war western front without B 17s, B 24s, Lancasters and the likes.

That would be like having icing without the cake.

[RazzHu]

I would like to see Kuban thatre as then we would have spitfires too :-)))

Edited October 21, 2013 by RazzHu

[Lord_Haw-Haw]

I would like to see Kuban thatre as then we would have spitfires too :-)))

So the mainthing is Spitfires? The theatre is irrelavent?

Spitfires in a "Hello Kitty land" would then also be fine?

 

Sorry I prefer a accurate theatre than having a specific aircraft at

all costs even if it is totally displaced.

By the way read up about those spitfires used on the eastern front.

Günther Rall gave once a interview about them, that they where amazed

how fast and easily they where shot down, and that with in three weeks

all Spitfires had been knocked out of the air.

[Trooper117]

It doesn't matter how excellent the tool is, if the person using it isn't as familiar with it, or hasn't had extensive training with it or just isn't as skilled as other craftsmen...

[Lord_Haw-Haw]

It doesn't matter how excellent the tool is, if the person using it isn't as familiar with it, or hasn't had extensive training with it or just isn't as skilled as other craftsmen...

Yes but the best tool is out of place if it was not used for  a specific job.

Sort of like wanting a hammer, when you need a needle.

Afterall this is a thread where theatres are talked about, I think the wish tread for

specific aircraft is some where else?

[Dakpilot]

I would like to see Kuban thatre as then we would have spitfires too :-)))

 

I think this quite clearly states a desire for a theater... so has a valid place in this thread?   would it be wrong to desire the Med theater to get RAF/Western A/C also?

 

Cheers Dakpilot

[Lord_Haw-Haw]

Well from that point of view, can one then even wish for a certain theatre?

What would people want that wish for the Battle of France, the Battle of Norway

or the invasion of Poland??

[SOLIDKREATE]

Well from that point of view, can one then even wish for a certain theatre?

What would people want that wish for the Battle of France, the Battle of Norway

or the invasion of Poland??

 

 

I'd love all of those and the SpA Civil War.

[II./JG27_Rich]

What about the Crimea? It has the sea all around it 

[Cybermat47]

In my opinion, this sim should focus solely on the Eastern Front, all the way from the traitorous attack/glorious assault on Russia to the glorious assault/desperate defence of Berlin.

[Trooper117]

If it does there will be an instant migration of guys to DCS if they get established with a good European plane set...

There are people like me that are only going with this title because we hope to see an expansion to other theatres, and there is a huge following for a European or med/Africa setting.

If this game was to confirm it was only staying with the Soviet air war throughout I'd bin it now and not waste money on anything else they put out.

[Jochen]

My vote is for 3rd battle of Kharkov or Kursk, before moving theater to Med.

[Mastermariner]

Always pleased when people listens and pay attention to my advise.

 

On a serious note I think this is a very wise decision.

Master

[Finkeren]

Always pleased when people listens and pay attention to my advise.

 

On a serious note I think this is a very wise decision.

Master

Amen to that!

 

It makes a ton of sense to build from what we already have.

 

Besides, Moscow was on top of my list of what I'd want for the first expansion. When you get past the fact, that it's primarily gonna be another snow map (which, after all, isn't gonna feel as bad once we get the green Stalingrad maps;) ) that battle just has so much going for it:

 

In retrospect the BoM is a good candidate for being the true turning point in WW2 (though only a few people realised it at the time) Once the Wehrmacht had been pushed back and it was clear, that the Soviet state was not coming apart, there was no way Germany was gonna come out victorious in the long run.

 

The battle was the finest hour of the PVO, which was to stand in the shadow of the VVS for the rest of the war. The air defense of Moscow was surprisingly effective and the first great victory in the air for the USSR.

 

The BoM was really intense reaching the same scale and almost the same casualties as the Battle of Britain despite lasting only 3 months. There'll be the chance of creating pretty huge air battles for those whos PCs can handle it.

[Cybermat47]

Moscow's coming, did you get your coat?

[Finkeren]

Heck with the FMB coming, it will be posible to create a 'Mathias Rust' mission, where you set up huge Soviet air defenses over the city and have to fly a single Bf109E7 in to land on the Red Square.

[johncage]

Actually, based solely on what you just wrote, I think it would a horrendous public relations move to allow for the simulation of the bombing and/ or destruction of the Kremlin, even though the Kremlin was in fact bombed during the actual battle. I would cross the Battle of Moscow right off the list of possible next theatres, if that was a feature of the Battle of Moscow add-on.    MJ

this is game company, not obama's cabinet. putin doesn't care.

[Trooper117]

Now there is a thought...

I rarely fly for the Luftwaffe, but bombing the Kremlin day in and day out forever.... I might just buy it!

[Mastermariner]

Now there is a thought...

I rarely fly for the Luftwaffe, but bombing the Kremlin day in and day out forever.... I might just buy it!

For you no problem. Just remain on the side of the ideology you have already chosen!

Master

[Rama]

To all: Stops the politics NOW!

Thank's in advance.

[Uufflakke]

Remember IL2:1946 and its Moscow map?

With no Moscow on it, let alone Kremlin etc.

 

Let's hope that this team doesn't follow the same path. 

[Trooper117]

Well, in CLoD the Luftwaffe got to bomb some pretty iconic places modelled in London. (no one complained either...)

With the dev's eye for detail in BoS I'd assume the Kremlin would be included.

[ST_ami7b5]

[Sokol1]

Now there is a thought...

I rarely fly for the Luftwaffe, but bombing the Kremlin day in and day out forever.... I might just buy it!

 

No way: http://forum.il2sturmovik.ru/topic/2636-obsuzhdenie-88-j-chasti-dnevnikov-razrabotchika/page-9?do=findComment&comment=266173

 

[bivalov]

yes.

[-NW-ChiefRedCloud]

Still a pity though that nothing came out of COD's sequel Battle of Moscow.

 

I am not talking about COD's gameplay etc etc but BoM screenshots look so nice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You honestly can't say "Noting came out of that project". Because IF (that's my disclaimer) there are any of the guys that worked with this are still with 1CGS, then the knowledge lives on so we can expect something close to this. Am I being too optimistic?

 

Chief

[Bando]

Here's to hoping your optimism leads to something as shown in the pics.

I forgot all about those pics. They do look good indeed.