Adjusting from Twist to Pedals

[=EXPEND=Tripwire]

In the last week I have made the switch from using rudder on my MS FFB2 twist stick, to using rudder pedals (Saitek).

 

I am making a lot of improvement, but talk about having to teach yourself how to aim all over again. After having used the twist since the original IL2, trying to get your brain to use your legs when everything used to be in the stick is quite the experience/challenge. I almost wish you could lock out the twist function in the stick so that it can't turn at all. I keep attempting to make fine rudder adjustments in the heat of the moment and realise that nothing is happening as I have twisted the stick rather than pushed a pedal.

 

 

I have no plans of switching back to the twist, but how long did it take others that have made this transition to adjust?

[LAL_Luny]

Took me a bit of a while, but not having played for several years helped.

 

I restarted flying on BOS with pedals that i didn't have several years ago for IL2.

 

The most difficult at the beginning is that the sensitivity is really different : at the beginning my pedals were very easy to push now I use a much stronger setting (I also have Saitek with pressure adjustment).

 

Whatis really difficult if you use toe breaks is taxiing juggling between toe axes and rudder axes. But after a bit of time it becomes natural.

[Matt]

It took me ~3 weeks to adjust from the twist axis (FFB2) to Simpeds and then again some weeks when i got my MFG Crosswind (which have a much stronger spring and a completely different feel).

 

So that's pretty normal. But i guess after about one month, it shouldn't be problem anymore (depending on how many hours you're actually using them each week).

[=LD=Hethwill]

Best tip I can give you, in my experience, is to give it a short interval at start on the pedals curve, so you have similar response ( brain-wise ) to the twist.

 

Then it becomes easier ( session per session  ) to increase the response curve and have mode fine tuning.

Edited December 12, 2014 by =LD=Hethwill_Khan

[1./JG42Nephris]

3 weeks I wanted to throw he damn pedals out of the window.

After that time the pedals come directly after TrackIr.

[SharpeXB]

I made the switch to pedals very early when starting flight sims but yes it meant learning to fly all over again. Very much worth the learning curve though. Pedals feel more natural than the stick.

[ST_ami7b5]

I agree with all above.

You need about one month to start using pedals automatically; but then there's no way back

The biggest advantage of pedals vs twist stick is that your aiming is not affected by invuluntary stick movements (pitch,roll) while twisting the stick.

Edited December 12, 2014 by ST_ami7b5

[J2_Trupobaw]

Took me 2-3 weeks as well. Started with S-curved responses to be more precise at aiming and small adjustments. When the spike of sensivity further along the curve became more trouble than it was worth, I knew I'm on right track. As with everything related to learning new controls/plane, I recommend strafing trucks without hitting the ground as training.

Edited December 12, 2014 by Trupobaw

[ST_ami7b5]

Took me 2-3 weeks as well. Started with S-curved responses to be more precise at aiming and small adjustments. When the spike of sensivity further along the curve became more trouble than it was worth, I knew I'm on right track. As with everything related to learning new controls/plane, I recommend strafing trucks without hitting the ground as training.

I  agree, I learned using pedals strafing trucks (which were not moving) on my homefield in RoF

[Potenz]

for some reason, i always felt the twist unatural, when i got my pedals

it was automaticly natural, and i never flew a real plane till last week

[J2_Trupobaw]

You can't help muscule memory, once you have twist grip reflexes, you need to unlearn them. Twist grip works like steeling wheel / bar - oyu wnat to turn left, you pull it towards you on the left side, pedals work in reverse...

...right. An intuition that once helped me learn, Tripwire - you lean on your pedals with your whole body, as if you were riding a bicycle, not just one leg. You want to yaw to the right, your body leans to the right in your seat / cockpit, your right leg pushes the pedal. Yaw as full body action until you get leg reflexes.

[=EXPEND=Tripwire]

Some good tips posted. Thanks all for the advice.

[Y-29.Silky]

It takes a week or two to adjust your muscle memory. It's a natural and rewarding process.

[=EXPEND=Tripwire]

Well that was short lived. Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals appear to no longer respond on the rudder axis, but the toe brakes are fine.

 

Quality product.

[J2_Trupobaw]

What a letdown! Sorry to hear that, I hope you can easily return it.

... wait, it does not respond in Windows control panel, not just in BoS, right?

[=EXPEND=Tripwire]

No, wont work in the control panel either. RMA time.

[ST_ami7b5]

OMG

Have you tried to plug it to another usb port?

Edited December 13, 2014 by ST_ami7b5

[Bearcat]

I suggest you also play around with the sensitivity curves as well.