leitmotiv Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 Ok my turn 1. Name the airplane on this picture: 2. Whats the name of famous Russian pilot that died testing Russian first WW2 rocket engine only, powered airplane? 3. What is the name of bomber on this picture:
mazex Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 1 - Re 2000 2 - Grigori Backchivandzhi 3 - Pe-8
SvAF/F19_Klunk Posted September 17, 2013 Author Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) hmm 1) looks like a Reggiane 2000 (or J20 as the Swedish designation) 2) Grigory Yakovlevich Bakhchivandzhi n a B1 3) looks like a Pe8 darn it..too late Edited September 17, 2013 by F19_Klunk
LordNeuro*Srb* Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 Well beter late then never lol. Intresting topic. We head similar topic in rof forum. Nice to see similar topics and lots of pilots from rof here.
leitmotiv Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) nice you both are correct on all 3 but mazex was faster , hes turn hope to see Pe-8 in BoS ( dont know if they saw service over Stalingrad), it would be nice to fly 4 engine bomber in game Edited September 17, 2013 by Yaklover
mazex Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 He he, close call there Klunk... For us in Sweden the J-20 was "easy" Here we go... Only aircraft this time (last one a bit evil): 1. 2. 3.
leitmotiv Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 hard for me i think no2 looks like Wellington no3 maybe J2M5 Jake no1 no clue, would like to know what type is that
mazex Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 hard for me i think no2 looks like Wellington no3 maybe J2M5 Jake no1 no clue, would like to know what type is that You are fast - but unfortunately no points this time... And I agree that it's a bit evil with wrecks... But I guess Frey will take it anyway?
Freycinet Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 Hmm, first one looks like a weird Il-2.... Second one: Fokker T.V. Third one... Huh?
mazex Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) Hmm, first one looks like a weird Il-2.... Second one: Fokker T.V. Third one... Huh? Well - will give some hints of the last one as even you sound confused about it... Another image of aircraft 3 above (the wreck in the desert): Not allowed to edit the original post so I can't change that post to include this image... And yes - it's a Fokker T.V (ugly looking bugger that one ) Edited September 17, 2013 by mazex
mazex Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) And some advice regarding no 1... I'd say that the canopy section is "typical" for fighters from that country though they are usually further back. And look at the engine... Looks familiar? ...and elliptical wings (nice aerodynamic properties but hard to manufacture) are also not uncommon from this country... ...and yes - it's a prototype Edited September 17, 2013 by mazex
leitmotiv Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 juging by the tail section and cocpit on no 1 is Italian for sure, maybe fiat or caproni but didnt saw this type yet
mazex Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 Mmm... Sounds like good reasoning but which one? And regarding the third one - it was for sure designed with colder climate in mind and I guess the designers where a bit surprised that it ended it's career in the desert The air force in that country got some press not so many years ago after a woman got the first confirmed kill in a famous modern fighter... And it's an interesting story that proves that many of our sterotype images of what women are "allowed to do" in countries in that region are maybe not that true?
Freycinet Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 Ok, I see Haile Selassie in that pic... And it looks like a Saab B17 behind him. Also, I know that the counytry with the female fighter pilot is Eritrea, it was a big story in the news a few years ago... First plane... Italian? 1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caproni_Vizzola_F.6 2) Fokker T.V. 3) Saab B 17, and I found it on the net!: http://lae.blogg.se/2012/june/vrak.html
leitmotiv Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 picture 3 has to be T-6, look at that bar on crashed one its roll bar in T-6 ? first im sure its italian for bomber because of engines i guessed its Wellington, but i see Freycinet was correct, now just need to figuer out what exactly type is no 1
Freycinet Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) 1) This plane served in WWII, what is it? 2) This fellow became an ace flying US radial-engined fighters. Who is he? 3) He shot down 20+ German planes and had an insignia showing a double-6-dot domino on his plane. Who was he? Edited September 17, 2013 by Freycinet
leitmotiv Posted September 17, 2013 Posted September 17, 2013 1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caproni_Vizzola_F.6 2) Fokker T.V. 3) Saab B 17, and I found it on the net!: http://lae.blogg.se/2012/june/vrak.html nice good job Freycinet, was sure 3rd one was T-6
II./JG27_Rich Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 (edited) Who is this? He was never found and it was probably friendly fire that sent him down. A high scorer too. Edited September 18, 2013 by II./JG27Richie
leitmotiv Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 little help with that one maybe Freycinet 1. lol did that thing saw action in ww2? Franch design maybe? 2. probably from Finland but dont know who 3. Is he from Poland maybe?
JG1_Pragr Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 2. Hans Wind But the rest I have no idea.
mazex Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 (edited) Thanks Pragr, thats the one I missed 1. Bloch MB 81 2. Hans Wind 3. José María Bravo (and that was a "sneaky one" ) Edited September 18, 2013 by mazex
leitmotiv Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 (edited) nice at least i was on good path with first 2, for 3rd i was thinking maybe Gabby Gabreski and P-47 newer would guess its I-16 pilot Edited September 18, 2013 by Yaklover
Freycinet Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 Thanks Pragr, thats the one I missed 1. Bloch MB 81 2. Hans Wind 3. José María Bravo (and that was a "sneaky one" ) Well done! Tell us a bit about how you found out. Always interesting to hear about the techniques of other snoops... :-) little help with that one maybe Freycinet 1. lol did that thing saw action in ww2? Franch design maybe? 2. probably from Finland but dont know who 3. Is he from Poland maybe? Good hunches! 2. Hans Wind But the rest I have no idea. Well done! I read a very interesting book about him. One of the very many high-scoring aces from Finland. Seems it was helpful to fly against the USSR if you wanted to amass a lot of victories in WWII...
DB605 Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 (edited) Well done! I read a very interesting book about him. One of the very many high-scoring aces from Finland. Seems it was helpful to fly against the USSR if you wanted to amass a lot of victories in WWII... Our pilots has much better pilot training and leaders than russians. Actually Finland has most fighter aces in world in relation to population. But to have as much victories as Hans Wind you really need to be natural talent too. Who is this? He was never found and it was probably friendly fire that sent him down. A high scorer too. Who is this? He was never found and it was probably friendly fire that sent him down. A high scorer too. Heinz Schmidt, 173 victories. Probably shoot down by hungarian pilot. I'm currently reading Helmut Lipfert book (again, must be tenth or so time) Edited September 18, 2013 by DB605
mazex Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 Well done! Tell us a bit about how you found out. Always interesting to hear about the techniques of other snoops... :-) Thanks! Well - I wish I would have gotten that question after Yaklovers question as I actually recognized both aircraft directly and just had to verify them on the net. And I knew that the BI-1 was the first rocket powered soviet aircraft and had read the story sometime earlier so I just had to look up the pilot name... But - you quiz was unfortunately more about hard Google search work Finding the MB-81 actually took me most of my 40 minute train ride to work on a cellphone that was hot after it. The first thought after seeing a "square" monoplane with a fat straight cross was naturally that it must be some 20:ies Junkers... Looked up all Junkers I could find with no luck. Had a "Fokker feeling" to and when't down that path for 10 minutes... Checked some french 30:ies aircraft too with no luck. So then I took the hard route and as it looked like an ambulance aircraft I started different combinations on that theme. Finally the hard route with google images and taking the approach that it looked "late 20:ies - early 30:ies" I found it with the google images search "ambulance aircraft 1932" And with José Maria I was a bit lucky as it was a very clever and sneaky ace to find I immediately had some feeling that I had seen a "stubby plane" like an early polish or soviet ac with domino or dice on the tail and had a feeling it must be east fron as there are not that many allied over 20. Looking at Soviet aces list I stumbled into the I-16 wikipedia page and tada - there it was on the tail of the Spanish rata in the top right corner http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polikarpov_I-16 It kind of feels like cheating of course with google images - but just randomly searching will get you nowhere, so the skill is how to narrow it down. And it's a lot of fun doing it as many side tracks can lead to interesting stories "while hunting"... Our pilots has much better pilot training and leaders than russians. Actually Finland has most fighter aces in world in relation to population. But to have as much victories as Hans Wind you really need to be natural talent too. Heinz Schmidt, 173 victories. Probably shoot down by hungarian pilot. I'm currently reading Helmut Lipfert book (again, must be tenth or so time) Well, even though Richie was not the current quiz master I think we can say it's your turn to ask the question anyway as I have done two here already... OK?
DB605 Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 (edited) Well, even though Richie was not the current quiz master I think we can say it's your turn to ask the question anyway as I have done two here already... OK? Heh, okay then Pics only 'cos i'm lazy mood now... 1.Name this Japanese ace: 2. Wich plane is this? 3. or this? Edited September 18, 2013 by DB605
JtD Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 Every Finn asks about the Myrsky. :D (No. 3).
mazex Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 1. Well - not Sakai at least 2. D4Y? 3. VL Myrsky (the Finns sure had many types during the war )
DB605 Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 Every Finn asks about the Myrsky. :D (No. 3). Okay Should have choose Pyörremyrsky then! 1. Well - not Sakai at least 2. D4Y? 3. VL Myrsky (the Finns sure had many types during the war ) All correct, just need to name the man in q1
Rama Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 Okay Should have choose Pyörremyrsky then! All correct, just need to name the man in q1 Teruhiko Kobayashi ? so would be 1) Teruhiko Kobayashi 2) D4Y 3) VL Myrsky
II./JG27_Rich Posted September 19, 2013 Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) Our pilots has much better pilot training and leaders than russians. Actually Finland has most fighter aces in world in relation to population. But to have as much victories as Hans Wind you really need to be natural talent too. Heinz Schmidt, 173 victories. Probably shoot down by hungarian pilot. I'm currently reading Helmut Lipfert book (again, must be tenth or so time) Right! Great book too. Edited September 19, 2013 by II./JG27Richie 1
DB605 Posted September 19, 2013 Posted September 19, 2013 Teruhiko Kobayashi ? so would be 1) Teruhiko Kobayashi 2) D4Y 3) VL Myrsky All correct, your turn!
Rama Posted September 19, 2013 Posted September 19, 2013 Ok, let's try 1) Me, a german pilot named ?????, has spared 3 times the life of the same allied pilot, flying a damaged plane, the first time in 1940, the second in 1943 and third in 1944. Who am I? 2) To which plane belong this engine? 3) I'm an allied pilot and earned these medals during WWII, who am I?
JG1_Pragr Posted September 19, 2013 Posted September 19, 2013 I hope this help someone. Medals and awards on the picture are from left to right: DFC, ?, Legion d'honneur, Croix de Guerre avec palme and Czechoslovak Military Medal "For the Merit". Because of the last one I think it could be František Fajtl, but because I have no idea about the second medal, I'm not sure.
leitmotiv Posted September 19, 2013 Posted September 19, 2013 no 2 is maybe Morane-Saulnier 406 dont know who could be no 1 and no 3
JG1_Pragr Posted September 19, 2013 Posted September 19, 2013 MS 406 had separated exhausts. This looks more like Hurricane.
leitmotiv Posted September 19, 2013 Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) no 1 Egon Mayer maybe ( i missraed the question first tought it askes what German pilot was spared 3 times ) no 2 MS 406 no3 dont know Edited September 19, 2013 by Yaklover
DB605 Posted September 19, 2013 Posted September 19, 2013 2) Dewoitine D 520 ? I think it is, engine looks like Hispano-Suiza 12y.
Rama Posted September 19, 2013 Posted September 19, 2013 Because of the last one I think it could be František Fajtl Correct for the medals you identified, wrong for the pilot. Maybe the non-identified medal will give the answer... 2) Dewoitine D 520 ? Correct
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