Escape

[Corsair123]

Hi

 

 

does anyone know if they plan to implement the possibility to escape from a wrecked or burning aircraft on the ground?

A action I have been missing in ROF and Cliffs of Dover.

[Stray]

Makes sense to me, since it's in 1946.

 

Bailing out from an aircraft ditched in the water and running on the water, doesn't though.

[Corsair123]

what happens to me in 1946 when i ditch in the water my pilot gets in to a raft, at least in the pacific campaign.

I think that the possibility to escape on the ground is equally important as bailing out in the air,

but I suspect that BoS is going to be more like RoF than any other il2 sim.

[Stray]

Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't.

I'll post a screenie once it happens to me in near future.

Hoping to make it back home though.

[I/JG27_Rollo]

I'd have to test it but from the top of my head, I'd say ditching in rivers should do the trick...

[ACG_Dickie]

what happens to me in 1946 when i ditch in the water my pilot gets in to a raft, at least in the pacific campaign.

 

And in real life he smashes his face into the gunsight and breaks his clavicle from the immediate shock of doing 80mph to 0mph in about 2 yards.  Unconscious he sinks with his machine.   That was more the reality,  that's why they would jump out rather than try and ditch.

[Tektolnes]

Some planes would sink extremely quickly too. Due to the large scoop under the fuselage the Mustang would sink in 3 seconds if ditched. Pilots were told to always bail out unless they'd absolutely no other choice.

[DB605]

Of course it was possible to ditch plane into water, i have read it from several pilot account who did it and survived. At least in 109 it was possible to remove gunsight fast before emergency landing to avoid head hittings.

Edited September 18, 2013 by DB605

[Corsair123]

I know the americans did ditch in the water next to the carrier if the plane was damaged.

but if i had a choice, I would rather bail out than ditch in the water, because water ditching is really dangerous, 30cm high waves is enough to flip the plane upside down erasing all hopes of escape if you survive and is conscious of course.

what I think would be cool is if you crash land and your plane starts burning you hit bail out and your pilot crawls out of the plane and to safety, or collapses depending on how injured the pilot is.

[II./JG77Timairborne]

Is this just for sim purposes of saving the pilot or is there actually a benefit to saving your pilot?

[Corsair123]

in career mode it is a benefit to save your pilot so you can continue your career.

And if you play in a multiplayer server with limited resources, there will be a actually benefit to save the pilot.

if you save the pilot by pressing esc and end flight, what is the point of trying a emergency landing as you could do that in the air without the risk.

if this is deemed unimportant then I ask what is the point in having the ability to bail out in air?

is it just for sim purposes of saving the pilot or is there actually a benefit to saving your pilot?

[Cybermat47]

You might be able to get out of your plane while it's on the ground in BoS. You can't use RoF as a comparison, seeing as they didn't model parachutes in that game.

[II./JG77Timairborne]

well that would be cool if it were a benefit because it would give a whole new dynamic to getting out of the crappy situation and feeling better about it. Do you guys think they will add pilot kills while floating in a parachute?

[Corsair123]

I hope not. from what I have been told by a pilot who flew in RAF No 332sq (RNoAF) during ww2, any pilot who did kill men in parachutes, would not brag about it, because he would be greatly disliked by other pilots.

[Cybermat47]

I hope not. from what I have been told by a pilot who flew in RAF No 332sq (RNoAF) during ww2, any pilot who did kill men in parachutes, would not brag about it, because he would be greatly disliked by other pilots.

 

Still, we can't deny that it happened...

 

I would have it in, to make bailing out more dangerous. Not to shoot helpless men (or women).

 

EDIT: I assume that RNoAF stands for Royal Norwegian Air Force?

Edited September 20, 2013 by Cybermat47

[Corsair123]

Neither did he, all he said that you would be very unpopular amongst your fellow pilots so no one would brag about it. and keeping score is braging about it....

don`t misunderstand me, I would like to se random events were AI tries to shoot down enemy parachutes, but I dont think it should be written down how many parachute victories you/AI have

RNoAF=Royal Norwegian Air Force.

[Cybermat47]

Neither did he, all he said that you would be very unpopular amongst your fellow pilots so no one would brag about it. and keeping score is braging about it....

don`t misunderstand me, I would like to se random events were AI tries to shoot down enemy parachutes, but I dont think it should be written down how many parachute victories you/AI have[/

I wasn't saying that he denied that, sorry if it looked that way.

 

And I wouldn't want to have a scoreboard saying how many helpless men I'd killed either :O

[Corsair123]

I wasn't saying that he denied that, sorry if it looked that way.

It did not 

this is of topic, but he also told me stories about frendlies shooting frendlies, and he told me a story about almost being shoot down by a P51 mustang, luckily he said the pilot was a bad shoot.

he belived it was a captured mustang but it might have been a american. I have also read similar accounts from other pilots, so I have no trouble beliving the story to be true.

It did happen a lot of god awful things in the sky during ww2 and I don`t think we can expect to see it all in this game.

[BMA_West]

Oh, I think that will all depend on mission parametres.
In ROF there are eg skins for captures planes as it is also possible to change some properties of AI/player-planes like eg the involved country.

[II./JG77Timairborne]

It was considered a very dishonorable thing to do. 

[Lord_Haw-Haw]

Well I hope this is possible, as it was in IL2?