Game version 1.007 discussion

[Livai]

I am not sure if I should cry or to laugh?
 
Not sure who said that or where I read this that the AI return to base if they are damage or run out of ammo or out of fuel? Look at this AI plane very heavy and critical damaged and still attack the convoy. More better I first think the AI try to do a emergency landing no way with flaps and gears down + lights on + searchlights on = Never abort the attack before the last target is destroyed or return to base. Maybe the AI have the Order No. 227 "Not a step back" but the Germans, too?  How sad

I was so happy about a realistic Online - Campaign to replay the Battle of Stalingrad. But what I see is not to laugh! Just sad

 

 

This again

 

[SharpeXB]

It's complete insanity that one has to grind 2000 points with Lagg3 to unlock all while it is 2010 points for the 109f4.

 

Why is it "complete insanity"? Because there's 10 points difference between the planes?

[sturmkraehe]

because it is so much easier to grind in a 109f4 than in a Lagg3???

[SharpeXB]

because it is so much easier to grind in a 109f4 than in a Lagg3???

What's 10 points? You get about 300 for a sucessful long mission. 240 even you don't get any targets.

[sturmkraehe]

because it is more difficult to have successful mission in a Lagg3 than in a 109f4???

[SharpeXB]

because it is more difficult to have successful mission in a Lagg3 than in a 109f4???

Do ground attack or intercept

[Livai]

Watch how a crazy game bug force me to fly above Expert Realism Difficult Settings only at 2D Graphic all the time!

Are you get the feeling to be the best at Expert Realism Difficult Settings and what more. Unbelievable I am a flying ace I am the who managed to go above Expert Level!  BTW I managed here a save landing at my homebase and I could still destroying some enemy targets! What a crazy experience to fly.

 

[Sokol1]

"O"   

[Brano]

Watch how a crazy game bug force me to fly above Expert Realism Difficult Settings only at 2D Graphic all the time!

Are you get the feeling to be the best at Expert Realism Difficult Settings and what more. Unbelievable I am a flying ace I am the who managed to go above Expert Level!  BTW I managed here a save landing at my homebase and I could still destroying some enemy targets! What a crazy experience to fly.

Sorry,your english is not very readable and I still don't get what you try to tell us.

[CZEforzamike]

In Rise of Flight we have birds in the morning and cicadas in the evening, and it's really great to hear these sounds when the engine is off. The immersion is really important in a flight sim. Good idea.

I agree.

[voncrapenhauser]

stable for me (not using full screen mode).

Was running Ultra with very high resolution......Lowered resolution and capped frames at 60........Sim seems much more stable now 5 missions in a row without a system crash yipeeeee! other than a crash on landing  oooops!

[Livai]

Sorry,your english is not very readable and I still don't get what you try to tell us.

Maybe it was the flying ace part?

 

Look at the screenshots where you can see what a experience it was to fly above Expert Settings only with 2D Graphic. That was a very crazy experience to fly for me. Much more to land safe at my homebase or to destroy a enemy target. I accepted this challenge and I mastered it.  I have the hope that other accept this challenge, too. And post here their experience. And join the group of flying ace that managed to fly above Expert Settings.

[soupdragon]

I still don't get it?

 

Are you saying you flew the mission in map view?

 

 

SD

Edited December 9, 2014 by soupdragon

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

I still don't get it?

 

Are you saying you flew the mission in map view?

 

 

SD

 

I think so... 

[Livai]

I still don't get it?

 

Are you saying you flew the mission in map view?

  

SD

I think so...

 

+1

Take a very closer look at my screenshots that I have posted above. You can see the map view, my plane in 2D Graphic and 3D Graphic at the same time and view. The commands to go back to the cockpit or to hide the map view are not working. You can see how I turn my plane in 2D Graphic and 3D Graphic at the same time in map view only all the time. I can change my plane skin or add bombs, add fuel during the flight if I want. That was very cool.

[soupdragon]

ah right I got you.

 

SD

[FuriousMeow]

I was so happy about a realistic Online - Campaign to replay the Battle of Stalingrad. But what I see is not to laugh! Just sad

 

The campaign isn't playable online. Secondly, you want to play realistic but you are using settings that aren't realistic.

 

Your map view is the small map, not the large map. You aren't doing anything in 2d. That's all in the 3d world. Nothing you said makes any sense - and it almost never does. I'm not being mean, I'm just being short with you because it is always the same thing from you and it is always nonsensical. If you want to critique the game, you need to be able to critique it and not whatever this is that you constantly do.

Edited December 11, 2014 by FuriousMeow

[Yakdriver]

 

 

I can change my plane skin or add bombs, add fuel during the flight if I want. That was very cool.

 

Video, or it didnt happen.

how can you do that?

[Feathered_IV]

+1

Take a very closer look at my screenshots that I have posted above. You can see the map view, my plane in 2D Graphic and 3D Graphic at the same time and view. The commands to go back to the cockpit or to hide the map view are not working. You can see how I turn my plane in 2D Graphic and 3D Graphic at the same time in map view only all the time. I can change my plane skin or add bombs, add fuel during the flight if I want. That was very cool.

 

Sounds like you've messed up your controller inputs.  Set them back to default and try again.

[Zak]

Attention, pilots!

 

We ask you for a little assistance. If you noticed any bugs with AI behavior, please, post them in this thread: Autopilot and AI before December 15th when we'll start working on these fixes.

If your bug report is already there but hasn't been fixed yet, please, tell us about it in that thread.

 

Thanks in advance!

[SYN_Mike77]

great announcement Zak! Or at least the hint of an announcement to come.

[A-E-Hartmann]

Thank you for information .

[Sokol1]

 

 

post them in this thread: Autopilot and AI

 

AI bug already related in the thread: Sturmovik is "stealth" for He 111, Ju 87 and Pe-2 gunners.

[Sokol1]

 you want to play realistic but you are using settings that aren't realistic.

 

Your map view is the small map, not the large map. 

 

The guys there want know how combine these two things: "realistic" and small map.

 

http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/13437-how-view-mini-map-expert-mode/

Edited December 11, 2014 by Sokol1

[BlueHeron]

Yes please!

[GunnyHighway]

Great thanks!

Watch how a crazy game bug force me to fly above Expert Realism Difficult Settings only at 2D Graphic all the time!

Are you get the feeling to be the best at Expert Realism Difficult Settings and what more. Unbelievable I am a flying ace I am the who managed to go above Expert Level!  BTW I managed here a save landing at my homebase and I could still destroying some enemy targets! What a crazy experience to fly.

 

is it what people call "The Crying Game"?....When you keep crying you unlock more?

[Livai]

The campaign isn't playable online. Secondly, you want to play realistic but you are using settings that aren't realistic.

 

Your map view is the small map, not the large map. You aren't doing anything in 2d. That's all in the 3d world. Nothing you said makes any sense - and it almost never does. I'm not being mean, I'm just being short with you because it is always the same thing from you and it is always nonsensical. If you want to critique the game, you need to be able to critique it and not whatever this is that you constantly do.

 

You cant just use one piece what I have posted from this post or that post what automatic change the whole meaning what I have posted. Please, stop that!

 

Please, tell me how I can use the external camera view to playing the online Campaign with Expert Settings? Please, tell me how?  I cant thats the point. Please, tell me how I can play the online Campaign where I unlock things at the same time offline if thats for you not a online only playable Campaign? Please, tell me how I can play this Campaign offline?  I cant thats the point.

 

A Campaign is that realistic how realistic the AI behavior is. And what I see and how the AI react to that how I play and enjoy the Campaign its very far from realistic.  They crash, they spin, they disappear.........................

 

!!!Nobody is perfect!!!

My critique is maybe a different one from others and maybe some dont understand what I mean or want but at the end it works how I do that.  And you say it was almost or always nonsensical all the time. You maybe dont see the results because they stay private forever but I can tell you only that it was never nonsense and I known this much more better than you!

 

 

Sounds like you've messed up your controller inputs.  Set them back to default and try again.

 

Thank you for your help.

I set the controller inputs to default now to try again and hope that this funny game bug dont appear next time.

 

Great thanks!

 

is it what people call "The Crying Game"?....When you keep crying you unlock more?

Not sure, at the moment I unlock game bugs. They are that funny that I want more to unlock. Sometimes it is hard to say if it is to cry or to laugh or just sad to see but at the end I have a lot fun to unlock the next crazy and funny game bug. It seems that the online campaign have a lot from them that only waiting to be unlocked. The AI pathfinding have problems how I play and the AI how to react to my gameplay.

[Urra]

I'm confussed. Why does raaaid make more sense at this point...

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

I'm confussed. Why does raaaid make more sense at this point...

Raaaid speaks better English but makes absolutely no sense at all.

 

If you don't understand his English, great. I got it because I was taught critical thinking during my 16 years of education.

Edited December 11, 2014 by SYN_Haashashin
Insult. Last one.

[Livai]

because it is so much easier to grind in a 109f4 than in a Lagg3???

 

I hope I understand you right? I hope I am wrong with that? Do you mean you cant deal with this three Bf-109 F-4 that patrol to shot them down with a single Lagg-3?

 

 

 

 

 

Its not the frist time where I see Bf-109 patrol like this.. .............................very very realistic...................................

[Leaf]

 

I hope I understand you right? I hope I am wrong with that? Do you mean you cant deal with this three Bf-109 F-4 that patrol to shot them down with a single Lagg-3?

 

 

 

 

 

Its not the frist time where I see Bf-109 patrol like this.. .............................very very realistic...................................

 

Post it in the AI bug section then.

[coconut]

When flying the campaign with the Stuka, my wing mates dropped their bombs shortly after take off. I took off with my flaps extended, which I guess I'm not supposed to do (the plane has trouble accelerating past 200km/h, and I don't dare retract the flaps flying that slow).

 

A wild guess: is it possible the AI thought I was going to land (I was in proximity of a landing strip with my flaps extended), and decided to jettison their bombs before landing?

 

Otherwise, I really wish the AIs were a bit more helpful in attacking the objective on the ground. Sometimes, they can be very passive.

[TG-55Panthercules]

 

A wild guess: is it possible the AI thought I was going to land (I was in proximity of a landing strip with my flaps extended), and decided to jettison their bombs before landing?

 

 

 

Did you have your landing gear down as well?  That probably also confused the AI about your intentions to land

 

Seriously, I made it through most of the unlocks with the Stuka a while back and never saw any problems like this - my AI buddies always did a fairly credible job trying to help out with the ground targets (other than a marked propensity to lawn-dart like the autopilot was likely to do with me, which I reported in the AI bug thread a while back).  But that was probably a couple of patch/updates ago, so maybe this is something new you're seeing?

[Y-29.Silky]

Mine isn't a bug, but it's something that should be addressed, it probably already has.

 

In Quick Missions I was flying a Yak against an He-111, I somehow lost him when we passed head on... Next thing I know he's diving on me and even got into my turn! If he had a mounted gun, I would have been toast. It was the funniest thing I've seen in a while. But I do wish bombers acted like a bomber and even have formations, it would be nice.

Edited December 14, 2014 by Silky

[LY_LCT_unknwn]

Why loadout selections aren't remembered between flights in MP? This is the most annoying "feature" in the game. It was working until the patch changing loadout UI was released.

Loudout selections seems to be remembered only if airbase conditions haven't changed and you haven't selected/switched the bases or a plane. Everyime you connect a server you also need to select loadout.

However airbase conditions changes very often which leads to you having select loadout again. After you selected loadout airbase conditions might change again and again which means you have to select loadout everytime..

Edited December 14, 2014 by LY_LCT_unknwn

[GP*]

Why loadout selections aren't remembered between flights in MP? This is the most annoying "feature" in the game. It was working until the patch changing loadout UI was released.

Loudout selections seems to be remembered only if airbase conditions haven't changed and you haven't selected/switched the bases or a plane. Everyime you connect a server you also need to select loadout.

However airbase conditions changes very often which leads to you having select loadout again. After you selected loadout airbase conditions might change again and again which means you have to select loadout everytime..

Agreed.

 

If this could be remedied, that would be great.

[coconut]

Did you have your landing gear down as well?  That probably also confused the AI about your intentions to land

 

Seriously, I made it through most of the unlocks with the Stuka a while back and never saw any problems like this - my AI buddies always did a fairly credible job trying to help out with the ground targets (other than a marked propensity to lawn-dart like the autopilot was likely to do with me, which I reported in the AI bug thread a while back).  But that was probably a couple of patch/updates ago, so maybe this is something new you're seeing?

 

I was flying a Stuka, and can't retract the gear. Therefore, the landing gear was out. Did you miss that information in my post? Or maybe you were joking (what was that whoosh sound I just heard? ).

 

For the second part of your comment, are you referring to the passivity of the AI? I think I understand the problem the devs are facing: If the AI is too active, the player will never need to attack the targets, the AI will do it. It makes flying with them boring, and makes one feel useless. On the other hand, sometimes it would really help having the AI pull its weight. Developing an AI that knows when to get in and when to stay out must be hard. If that is indeed the problem, I would suggest an additional command that explicitly orders to attack the objective. I know there is a "stop what you are doing and proceed with the mission" order, but all it does for me is get the AI back behind me.

[KpaxBos]

When flying the campaign with the Stuka, my wing mates dropped their bombs shortly after take off.

It occurs to me (not with stuka) when the AI thinks it is in danger( ennemy planes close).

[SYN_Ricky]

Mine isn't a bug, but it's something that should be addressed, it probably already has.

 

In Quick Missions I was flying a Yak against an He-111, I somehow lost him when we passed head on... Next thing I know he's diving on me and even got into my turn! If he had a mounted gun, I would have been toast. It was the funniest thing I've seen in a while. But I do wish bombers acted like a bomber and even have formations, it would be nice.

At least they behave better in the campaign, but it's pretty annoying if you want to practice bomber attacks in QM as they fly like they were fighters...

[coconut]

It occurs to me (not with stuka) when the AI thinks it is in danger( ennemy planes close).

That must have been it, there were enemy bombers with two escorts flying by a few kilometers away.