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Camera settings have been reset. You need to readjust it again.

 

It's quite common for updates to reset settings to default so it's very adviseable to create backup files of your configs.

Thanks for reply Stab_5tuka.  I know what you are saying, but that's not the issue.  The settings have not changed.  What is different is how "Pilot head control" is now functioning in the game. Try this example:  Say your view of the gun sight is a little right of center.  To move it left, you tap the key assigned to "move pilot head left" (the delete key by default). Prior to V 1.007 -  each time you tap it would move your view to the left in increments to make a precise adjustment possible.  However, if you do the same thing now there are no increments - you are instantly thrown out the left side of the cockpit (canopy open). 

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Sallee

 

"Gannet One. Winds in the East"? would be " Gannet un gwyntoedd yn y dwyrain " :)

 

SD

Thanks, SD!
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Repeat please. :P

 

Nie rozumiem! (Courtesy of the Google Translater) :wacko:

Posted

I remember that dialog from BoB classic movie.Best part of it.I love Polish language.

Dostal sukyn syn   :biggrin:

No601_Swallow
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I know the scene  :biggrin:  See the quotation marks in my first post  ;)  

 

:) That's what I thought! But then you posted "I don't understand" in Polish (thank you Google Translate), and I couldn't remember that line from that scene, so I panicked!

 

But anyway, it's a good excuse to post up a scene from BoB - and not a Buchon in sight!  :cool:

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I've tried to progress with that darn grinding (my second last plane to unlock all).

 

I've tried 10 times:

 

  • I interrupted 4 out of these 10 attempts because of snow blizzard. Impossible to find the planes to intercept in expert mode. WASTE of time.
  • I stopped 2 out of these 10 attempts because I had to intercept a flight of bombers/attack planes with escort while being alone without wingmen. WASTE of time
  • 2 times I have messed up
  • 1 time my engine was hit by a gunner on the first shot while i climbed up almost vertically to the Heinkel. How can they shoot at these angles with such precision?????
  • 1 time I chased behind a 109 hit it and my engine was hit by the ejected canopy.

This is UTTERLY FRUSTRATING!!!!!!!

 

Intercept missions in a blizzard is pure nonsense! Not even realistic.

 

Intercept mission with a flight of only one plane is pure nonsense! Also not realistic.

 

I HATE to waste my rare spare time (I am working full time and am no student or kid any more with loads of time) on a game mode (advanced quick missions, not even a real Campaign or career) that I am absolutely not interested in. I imagine somehow devs to sit in their office and glee with schadenfreude on all MP/career guys while they force them do something they don't like. Is this supposed to be a hobby that we should enjoy or something that should procure as much pain as possible?

 

(I have to edit this post quite often because of orthographic mistakes - an expression of my frustration)

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1PL-Husar-1Esk
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Is it me or have the "pilot head controls" been altered. I haven't see any comments yet. Before version 1.007, the below keypads used to be for making graduated adjustments. Now the just slam you from one extreme to another. They're not adjustable anymore. Or - Am I missing something?

 

(1) zoom (numpad -/+)

(2) forward/backwards (insert/home)

(3) left/right (delete/end

(4) up/down (page-up/page-down)

Yes i have noticed it to. Very anoying - i did used trackir to center view then presded f10 to save.

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I've tried to progress with that darn grinding (my second last plane to unlock all).

 

I've tried 10 times:

 

  • I interrupted 4 out of these 10 attempts because of snow blizzard. Impossible to find the planes to intercept in expert mode. WASTE of time.
  • I stopped 2 out of these 10 attempts because I had to intercept a flight of bombers/attack planes with escort while being alone without wingmen. WASTE of time
  • 2 times I have messed up
  • 1 time my engine was hit by a gunner on the first shot while i climbed up almost vertically to the Heinkel. How can they shoot at these angles with such precision?????
  • 1 time I chased behind a 109 hit it and my engine was hit by the ejected canopy.
This is UTTERLY FRUSTRATING!!!!!!!

 

Intercept missions in a blizzard is pure nonsense! Not even realistic.

 

Intercept mission with a flight of only one plane is pure nonsense! Also not realistic.

 

I HATE to waste my rare spare time (I am working full time and am no student or kid any more with loads of time) on a game mode (advanced quick missions, not even a real Campaign or career) that I am absolutely not interested in. I imagine somehow devs to sit in their office and glee with schadenfreude on all MP/career guys while they force them do something they don't like. Is this supposed to be a hobby that we should enjoy or something that should procure as much pain as possible?

 

(I have to edit this post quite often because of orthographic mistakes - an expression of my frustration)

War is hell...

Honestly that all sounds like fun gameplay to me. Why you are complaining that every mission is not automatically perfect and successful is hard to understand. Blizzards sound cool. I have not seen one yet. Getting hit by pieces of the enemy plane? Also cool! If you play RoF you know this is a big possibility.

It's odd you are complaining about actually playing the game. Personally I am having a blast at the Campaign. I actually WANT to play BoS for many hours and that isn't possible with MP alone.

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That's because as the "campaign" is right now it only provides the unlocks as motivation for me (which is little motivation). They are basically just quick missions with a flight path and random target position. Unlike RoF career for instance or dynamic campaign of IL2 1946. I only play it for the unlocks and want to get rid of it as fast as possible. One more reason to request grinding in MP also.

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That's because as the "campaign" is right now it only provides the unlocks as motivation for me (which is little motivation). They are basically just quick missions with a flight path and random target position. Unlike RoF career for instance or dynamic campaign of IL2 1946. I only play it for the unlocks and want to get rid of it as fast as possible. One more reason to request grinding in MP also.

I do like the RoF career better, hopefully something like that gets made for BoS. For a first attempt the BoS campaign is better than some others. Better than the stock campaigns that came with RoF. It took several years for RoF to get a career mode. I like the random nature better than "chapter" style campaigns. Those get tedious when failing a mission just means repeating the same one over and over. The "short" and "long" mission choice is really a good thing too, it's a fair trade off for some of the simplicity in the flight plan.
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I do like the RoF career better, hopefully something like that gets made for BoS. For a first attempt the BoS campaign is better than some others. Better than the stock campaigns that came with RoF. It took several years for RoF to get a career mode. I like the random nature better than "chapter" style campaigns. T

 

This is what I have trouble wrapping my arms around, why did it have to be a first attempt. Man I have to say, when the news came out about the end of Cliffs and the new development of BOS with 1C and 777, first thing I did was download the free version of ROF, and quickly after that purchased the ICE Edition. Got into the career mode, and was like wow - this is good, can't wait to see how they expand on this for BOS... after all , it is 777 that is doing it.

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voncrapenhauser
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I have yet to hear a cat meow as loudly as a dog can bark. Maybe Russian cats are more vocal though? 

saw in latest episode of Scorpion on TV, They wanted to imitate a Russian voice, they said a Russian voices are gruff and low due to years of Vodka drinking,.....maybe Russian cats drink Vodka, ...in milk maybe???

 

That's their opinion BTW not mine before you think I'm racist against Russian Cats...........I'm not, I love all cats equally.

 

Just thought it was weird....Oh BTW Scorpion is at best an average show with unbelievable Hollywood computers that can solve all the worlds woes......He Laughed :wacko:  

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This is what I have trouble wrapping my arms around, why did it have to be a first attempt. Man I have to say, when the news came out about the end of Cliffs and the new development of BOS with 1C and 777, first thing I did was download the free version of ROF, and quickly after that purchased the ICE Edition. Got into the career mode, and was like wow - this is good, can't wait to see how they expand on this for BOS... after all , it is 777 that is doing it.

Sure the RoF career mode is great. But the game didn't release with that originally. It was added a few years later. I think the BoS team said that would have added 6 months to their schedule to do something like it. BoS launched with many more aircraft than RoF did though.

I'm sure we will see a career type campaign for BoS eventually. Either by 1CGC or a third party.

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Sure the RoF career mode is great. But the game didn't release with that originally. It was added a few years later. I think the BoS team said that would have added 6 months to their schedule to do something like it. BoS launched with many more aircraft than RoF did though.

I'm sure we will see a career type campaign for BoS eventually. Either by 1CGC or a third party.

 

Well perhaps some of you guys are more in the know than I , but I wish I had your confidence. I have not seen a single statement from them to give me that same level of confidence. And I have been following this sim closely since the day of the original  announcement and creation of this site.

novicebutdeadly
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I am not holding my breathe for numerous reasons.

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I wish they'd follow the ROF model for many reasons.

 

Another reason, in addition to the career mode, is that buying individual aircraft 1) helps support the devs over time and 2) increases their incentive to make more for us to fly. I don't know about anyone else, but getting a new aircraft in a sim and flying it for the first time is one of the most exciting things to me.

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Well perhaps some of you guys are more in the know than I , but I wish I had your confidence. I have not seen a single statement from them to give me that same level of confidence. And I have been following this sim closely since the day of the original  announcement and creation of this site.

And yet, week after week, more tweaks get done to firm up the sim, additional content gets put in, weekly (or very nearly so) updates from the development team continue as they have since the announcement of BoS. And with it all, people continue to say how little confidence they have of any further improvements. It still baffles me what else anyone needs to see progress being made. No one ever said it was going to happen yesterday, today or tomorrow. But it is getting improved constantly. More than any sim I've ever been associated with. Even the  original IL-2 never saw the rate of change we've seen with BoS, either during EA or since the official release.

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And yet, week after week, more tweaks get done to firm up the sim, additional content gets put in, weekly (or very nearly so) updates from the development team continue as they have since the announcement of BoS. And with it all, people continue to say how little confidence they have of any further improvements. It still baffles me what else anyone needs to see progress being made. No one ever said it was going to happen yesterday, today or tomorrow. But it is getting improved constantly. More than any sim I've ever been associated with. Even the  original IL-2 never saw the rate of change we've seen with BoS, either during EA or since the official release.

 

No need to be baffled, just not seeing any progress that would interest me yet.

=38=Tatarenko
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I'm still having fun 2v2 in the QMB with a crosswind landing afterwards. Simple pleasures :)

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my track IR doesnt work anymore...

Made a brake for about 2 updates. Wanted to continue the campaign and see what's improoved.

Now I have to waste my tame setting up all my devices... AGAIN. Annoying as f****. They give me a really hard time atm for liking this game, especially since I have not so much time lately so I just want to play and not mess with all the setups.

 

Have Track IR 5.2, worked like a blast since early alpha. Now - nothing. Any ideas`?

Thanks.

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And yet, week after week, more tweaks get done to firm up the sim, additional content gets put in, weekly (or very nearly so) updates from the development team continue as they have since the announcement of BoS. And with it all, people continue to say how little confidence they have of any further improvements. It still baffles me what else anyone needs to see progress being made. No one ever said it was going to happen yesterday, today or tomorrow. But it is getting improved constantly. More than any sim I've ever been associated with. Even the  original IL-2 never saw the rate of change we've seen with BoS, either during EA or since the official release.

There are some nice improvements coming in and we should see interesting new features in the near future, in general the pace of development isn't a cause for concern nor is really the rather basic state at which the game was released in. It's not a question of whether or not the devs can fix up the game, what makes people upset and worried about the future of the game is the devs stating time and time again that they won't fix the things considered most problematic.

II/JG17KaC_Wolfe
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Servers seem pretty unreliable at the moment.  Plenty of CTD and then they disappear from the menu when you reconnect.Internet connections also seem to get lost more regularly.  Anyone else experiencing this ?

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There are some nice improvements coming in and we should see interesting new features in the near future, in general the pace of development isn't a cause for concern nor is really the rather basic state at which the game was released in. It's not a question of whether or not the devs can fix up the game, what makes people upset and worried about the future of the game is the devs stating time and time again that they won't fix the things considered most problematic.

I'm all for voicing opinions, concerns and pointing out issues. By this time we all know who likes what and who doesn't. I've never claimed the sim is everything I want it to be either. I'd rather use it as it is now and wait for improvements. I'm not going to come here like some and threaten to quit, belittle others for a more positive view, and generally act petulant because it isn't exactly what I want. I appreciate the unlocks are an issue, but the amount of time spent here complaining about them is ridiculous. If people really want to make their case against them, stop using vague references like "I know 20 guys who won't buy" or "I know entire squads who aren't flying". Take the time and PM each member for their view. Or find someone who knows how to make a survey that will give the developers an accurate result of the community's real opinions. Not just those who make the most noise.

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The developers created their own poll about the unlocks.

No need for another.

 

They can see exactly how many people are playing when they check their authentication logs.

They don't need additional data.

Was it a true cross section of users? It's hard to say it represents an accurate viewpoint.

 

I understand that. That being the case, it would suggest to me that they feel comfortable with what they are seeing in those numbers.

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Was it a true cross section of users? It's hard to say it represents an accurate viewpoint.

 

I understand that. That being the case, it would suggest to me that they feel comfortable with what they are seeing in those numbForm

Forum polls are only ever going to sample enthusiasts who frequent the forums so they are always a bit skewed

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Your not going to get a better cross section of users than right here on the official BOS forums...

 

Edit: Extreme, welcome back - great to see ya!

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It's all just noise really.

 

Unproductive noise I'd say.

 

Its here it stays and we have to deal with it. Mumbling about it is kind of a waste of time that could be used to unlock things.

 

I don't like the unlocks either with little time to spare for the game, but I've done the most important ones i need for coop MP and now, I just enjoy MP :)

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Well, until they are able to read people's minds that's probably the best method they have of gaining opinion about a game.

 

At present 1052 members voted in the official unlock poll.

I think that's a fairly significant number for a flight sim.

 

Anyway, I don't really care about the poll, or about the people that love the unlocks or hate them.

 

It's all just noise really.

I hope more than 1,000 people have bought the game...
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I surely know loads of would be buyers who haven't because of bad comments on this forum. Sad but true

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Hm that poll sure has grown since I last checked. 1k is actually a pretty decent sample size, around the figure that's used to predict election results etc. nationwide. And about 92% negative feedback is a pretty damning figure even though people who are not happy with something are probably more likely to participate in such polls.

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1k is actually a pretty decent sample size, around the figure that's used to predict election results etc. nationwide.

We all know how that turns out... :-/

-NW-ChiefRedCloud
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It's quite amusing seeing certain folks here get all bent out of shape over a simple sound effect added to the game.  :lol:

 

It's also good to see some folks having some simple fun joking about it too. I do NOT believe the dog bark is a game changer or killer. So let's just enjoy it. I know I miss my Copilot who was barking ALL the times due to the sounds from my flight sims. So I'll choose to remember her when I hear them. As for the rest, carry on being upset if you choose.

 

Chief

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Mh since a few patchs I notice considerable slowdowns as soon as the airplane population gets dense in MP. 

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It's complete insanity that one has to grind 2000 points with Lagg3 to unlock all while it is 2010 points for the 109f4. 

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