Options, options, options.

[SharpeXB]

OP. I don't know if you realize there is a lot of flexibility within the two Difficulty presets since you can enable complex engine management within Normal and switch the aids like icons on and off to your preference. So if you want "full real" with icons, that can be done. The flight model is the same in Normal and Expert.

[TaX]

OP. I don't know if you realize there is a lot of flexibility within the two Difficulty presets since you can enable complex engine management within Normal and switch the aids like icons on and off to your preference. So if you want "full real" with icons, that can be done. The flight model is the same in Normal and Expert. 

I dont want icons, i dont want to trick settings stuff , switching on and off everytime. I want to configure the simulator as expected in EVERY simulator. You can do that in single missions. Customization. Why not in the campaign ?

And BTW, in normal mode, BIG icons on the points, not needed. Airplane autostabilization, not needed. Lemme configure the thing as i like. It's really a legit request.

Don't forget the video settings , that stuff drives me nuts.

[Bearcat]

An army of "fans" attacking anyone who dares to ask a question or is not happy about certain aspects of the game.

Chinese cultural revolution reloaded.

 

Pathetic.

 

 

 

And in other news, BOS metascore just dropped to 6.0. ....action and reaction....

Some people never learn.

 

S!

 

777 soldiers are worst than hitler's SS :lol:

 

This issue has been addressed at post #23 why are you stirring the pot? Posts removed.

[Bearcat]

This is why I believe that IL2 will be around for a long time.. It may be dated.. but it is still the best overall and most versatile WWII flight sim ever made.

[SharpeXB]

I dont want icons, i dont want to trick settings stuff , switching on and off everytime. I want to configure the simulator as expected in EVERY simulator. You can do that in single missions. Customization. Why not in the campaign ?

And BTW, in normal mode, BIG icons on the points, not needed. Airplane autostabilization, not needed. Lemme configure the thing as i like. It's really a legit request.

Don't forget the video settings , that stuff drives me nuts.

So exactly which settings do you want? If you don't want icons then just select Expert. If you don't want icons but want auto engine management select Normal and press H to hide the icons. I don't think any of the piloting help like auto rudder etc is enabled in either Normal or Expert.

Also if the graphic presets are causing you problems. Perhaps this section is still active.

http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/3825-preset-optimization/

During Early Access the developers collected feedback, I'm not sure if they still are but you can post your results and system specs.

[TaX]

For example just labels ? Video options ?

As explained to the other "defender" before , i want a pc simulator not a console game. I want full options and customization. Not turnarounds. Please get rid of the defensive stance , i'm tired to keep writing the same stuff over and over again.

[=LD=Hethwill]

Expert doesn't allow any automatic UNLESS it is native system on the plane. H / I keys hide the hud stuff

 

Normal allows change on-the-fly of auto to manual and back. H / I hide the hud stuff.

 

Okay, we have already 9 combinations. What more can we do...

 

... hmmm... in MP we can wait for DServer and then see what it has for customization.

 

For SP Campaign we stuck with the default 9 combinations per plane.

For SP single missions the full XP options are there already I think.

 

Well, as most servers enforce their own difficulty rules I don't see how more options becomes better.

As the SP Campaign relies on EVERYONE going through the XP meters using the same difficulty settings would make no sense to give away "invulnerabily" or "assisted flight" or "infinite ammo".

There are QMB for those.

 

Nothing on you personally, just stating facts.

Edited December 3, 2014 by =LD=Hethwill_Khan

[sturmkraehe]

I don't quite understand this stance by some that want people just to sit silent and accept just because others have issued their opinion on something. Either we all have the same right to speak as long as it stays polite or this is selective right to free speech. Also discussions and discontent won't stopp just because some don't want to hear it any more and people be reduced to silence (my advice: Don't read the threads linked to the points you don't want to hear about).

 

I also don't agree totally that the communication was about perfect. Best example the graphical presents. IIRC they were introduced alongside their mention in the developer diary. Nothing made the customer foresee this move by the devs. When the game was made early access we had full control over our graphic settings. This freedom to control the graphical appearance was later removed.

 

I also have to mention that while the unlocks were in the air for a moment it was NOWHERE clear that grindig would take place only in the campaign. Actually the whole setup of point gathering in MP made me presume that grinding would be possible in MP (which would be the logical approach and was likely expected by 99% of early access players).

 

I would like to use the occasion to express following hopes:

 

1. Allowing to grind in MP

2. Customizable difficulty level (afaik there have been the basics for a customizable multiplicator factor for experience points in the custom difficulty setting which exactly made me believe that grinding will be possible with customizable difficulty levels - not the difficulty presets we have right now)

3. Reintroduction of customizable graphical settings. I would be ok with a step wise increase of customizable graphic options now that the game is released and when the major bugs are done.

Edited December 3, 2014 by sturmkraehe

[BraveSirRobin]

I also have to mention that while the unlocks were in the air for a moment it was NOWHERE clear that grindig would take place only in the campaign. Actually the whole setup of point gathering in MP made me presume that grinding would be possible in MP (which would be the logical approach and was likely expected by 99% of early access players).

 

 

That's not true at all.  It was clearly stated in the dev blog, and there was a poll started immediately afterwards specifically asking about "unlocking mods in solo career".

 

http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/752-unlocking-mods-solo-career/

[SharpeXB]

The three difficulty presets aren't a surprise in BoS because that's exactly how RoF is now. Rise of Flight used to have five modes; Arcade, Novice, Veteran, or Ace plus Custom. This was still the case when the Beta Career launched but was changed a short time after that to the same three as BoS. Why, I'm not sure but I suspect it had to do with consolidating multiplayer. Too many difficult options just divides up the player base. The Custom mode in RoF is non point scoring (for SP and Career, currently the mp stat system is down) just like BoS.

Given the pace that BoS was developed at certainly keeping things simple was a goal. I read somewhere else that the individual graphic settings in RoF cost them too much customer support time.

[Tektolnes]

Yet they're happy to release the game without much of a user guide as presumably they think that people will use the forum / YouTube to get answers to questions. People can handle custom graphical settings and can use the forums if they have queries. Just about every other pc game of all sizes has options. This current situation is nonsense and is so easily remedied it boggles the mind they don't let us edit the config file ourselves so we can make our game look better than it currently does. 

[SharpeXB]

Yet they're happy to release the game without much of a user guide as presumably they think that people will use the forum / YouTube to get answers to questions. People can handle custom graphical settings and can use the forums if they have queries. Just about every other pc game of all sizes has options. This current situation is nonsense and is so easily remedied it boggles the mind they don't let us edit the config file ourselves so we can make our game look better than it currently does.

RoF has a very nice user manual but it did take a long time to produce. Yes, given the fact that there is so much available on the forum including some excellent community made aircraft guides and videos, I suspect a written manual isn't a high priority.

[Tektolnes]

The point being that if releasing the game and having the forum as your main source of information didn't result in them being iinundated with support queries it's pretty unlikely that custom graphic settings would spark a huge amount of them. 

[Petrosky]

Remember the video on the old ubi forums that had the kid

smashing his keyboard? wish i would have been able to

find it and post it here. maybe it would lighten the mood a little

 

Petrosky

[PinkCrow]

Remember the video on the old ubi forums that had the kid

smashing his keyboard? wish i would have been able to

find it and post it here. maybe it would lighten the mood a little

 

Petrosky

1. It was fake

2. Nothing to do with this topic

[sturmkraehe]

That's not true at all.  It was clearly stated in the dev blog, and there was a poll started immediately afterwards specifically asking about "unlocking mods in solo career".

 

http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/752-unlocking-mods-solo-career/

 

well, it took me by complete surprise and I consult the forum on a daily basis. I concede that the mistake may be on my side on this. I also was not aware of the poll and considering the outcome of the poll and compare it to what was realized I'd say it did not have any influence anyway.

Edited December 3, 2014 by sturmkraehe

[BraveSirRobin]

Yes, it appears that many of us weren't listening to them, and they weren't listening to us.

[TaX]

So, where are my options ? Still no patches ? :D

Edited December 3, 2014 by TaX

[FuriousMeow]

Considering that this person has 7 posts and is new here you need to stand down.

 

I highly doubt the "new here" part. More like a shades account.

[Yakdriver]

I highly doubt the "new here" part. More like a shades account.

 

hence my initial reaction.

[Bearcat]

I highly doubt the "new here" part. More like a shades account.

 

 

hence my initial reaction.

 

Regardless that is not for you to decide.

[TaX]

Lol. No guys. No shade accounts. Just bought the game yasterday. Complained on steam forum also. You can check that out.

[No601_Swallow]

Lol. No guys. No shade accounts. Just bought the game yasterday. Complained on steam forum also. You can check that out.

 

Fast work, bringing out the ol' complain-atron. Complimenti, as the Italians say.

[VBF-12_Snake9]

The two main options that I want (that really piss me off). 

 

1.  Trim on axis

 

2.  Custom graphics

[TaX]

There are no trimmers either ? I felt so angry and turned off my pc in despair. I didn't notice that...uhmm.. that's terrible news. What this guys really have in mind ?

Gonna check this sad fact ASAP.

Fast work, bringing out the ol' complain-atron. Complimenti, as the Italians say.

Thank you very much sir

[FuriousMeow]

There is trim control.

[Leaf]

There are no trimmers either ? I felt so angry and turned off my pc in despair. I didn't notice that...uhmm.. that's terrible news. What this guys really have in mind ?

Gonna check this sad fact ASAP.

Thank you very much sir

 

Of course they have trim, but not on an axis. 

What do these guys (I assume you mean developers) have in mind? A flight simulator.

However, small budget+small team+only 2 years of development mean that you can't expect a fully fleshed out simulator. Give it time and it'll grow. Continuously complaining about known issues just gets repetitive. 

[TaX]

Oh well , that scared me .. good news indeed. Infact i remember now ! I was searching for them and only found that i could not assign them to axis but only buttons.

Well, yes, infact i agree this is a VERY TO DO ASAP if you ask, same as customization options indeed.

Edited December 3, 2014 by TaX

[TaX]

In the meantime i'm downloading a 1GB update, did the devs put the customization options in there already ?

Edited December 3, 2014 by TaX

[FuriousMeow]

If you really are having problems with the "white" and that is why you want customizable graphics - adjust the gamma. There won't be any other graphics options you can adjust to change the level of brightness the white terrain has other than gamma or your video card brightness levels. Those are the only two options that will make it easier to see, nothing else in "custom" graphics options will change that.

[taildraggernut]

 

 

 Give it time and it'll grow. Continuously complaining about known issues just gets repetitive.  

 

But this never gets old

[TaX]

There is trim control.

The aileron trimmer does not seem to work for me at the moment, just the elevator and rudder working flawlessy, (just updated to 1.007).

Could you check if it's the same for you guys ?

[FuriousMeow]

Which plane? This is a simulator, the trim controls are modelled individually per aircraft. Some don't have any trim tabs, just an adjustable horizontal stabilizer (190, 109) while some just have elevator trim tabs and rudder trim tabs, others have all rudder, elev and aileron tabs.

Edited December 4, 2014 by FuriousMeow

[TaX]

Which plane? This is a simulator, the trim controls are modelled individually per aircraft. Some don't have any trim tabs, just an adjustable horizontal stabilizer (190, 109) while some just have elevator trim tabs and rudder trim tabs, others have all rudder, elev and aileron tabs.

Yeah just noticed that. Btw random crashes. 20 min filight and crash over the target. "IL2 stopped working" several times, maybe the update. Ok, i call the day.

[MiG21bisFishbedL]

Gotta love the Digital VVS coming out to defend bad design choices.

[SharpeXB]

Yeah just noticed that. Btw random crashes. 20 min filight and crash over the target. "IL2 stopped working" several times, maybe the update. Ok, i call the day.

I crashed a lot until I unchecked Full Screen. Maybe try that.

[johncage]

Fast work, bringing out the ol' complain-atron. Complimenti, as the Italians say.

you make it seem like picking out flaws in this game is hard work

[BraveSirRobin]

Picking out flaws in any flight sim is pretty easy.  

[Toxin1]

For the snow blindness, try using SweetFx.  It helps to reduce the brightness and ups the contrast.

[No601_Swallow]

you make it seem like picking out flaws in this game is hard work

 

 

When I wrote "Fast work, bringing out the ol' complain-atron. Complimenti..." I imagined my voice dripping with sarcasm. Obviously, I've got to up my writing skillz.

 

What I meant was that giving a game as complex as a sim less than a day before taking to the forums seems a bit precipitate. There is, I'd have thought, a lot to explore in the game before deciding it's useless.

 

Incidently, even with debateable design choices and the fact that we're still awaiting some components, this is honestly the least flawed launch of a sim that I've ever experienced. The classic of the genre is of course "it", but I refer the jury to IL2, a sim I still fire up with my squadron from time to time - sterile landscapes? Oh yes! Confusing or uninspiring GUI? Gottit! Difficulty running the game? Check! (It was literally half a decade before I dared to fly over Leningrad or Berlin in IL2 because it fried my computer). Irksome scenery pop-ups? Wrote the book. Colourful and argumentative forums? Oooh yeah!

 

I think what I find confusing about BoS is the malice, sarcasm, hectoring and ill will of some simmers on this and other forums. Given how fun this sim is, I just can't understand it.

 

(And bleedin' trim? Good grief! Do a frigging forum search!)

Edited December 4, 2014 by No601_Swallow