ImPeRaToR Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 Pretty sure it was "just" a field mod, but since the schlachtflieger went a lot after supply collumns the cannons might've been useful.
III/JG53Frankyboy Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 a well aimed SC50 is more worth than any 20mm canon IMO. And these Hs123 were famous because of their pinpoint accuracy durong their low level attacks . Anyway, if the plane EVER will find its way in the game, the 20mm wouldbe a nice Mod (if the developers can find pictures :D ) 2
ImPeRaToR Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 50kg bombs might be overkill though against trucks or even horse carts, but I am just speculating Would be really nice to have though, indeed. 1
JtD Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 The splinter producing SD bombs would probably be more useful than the SC. I'd agree with Frankyboy that the bombs usually would be more useful than the cannon rounds. You simply carry 20 times the destructive potential, and don't require direct hits. Only mention I have found of the MG-FF in the literature by now is that there's no evidence for it.
Mac_Messer Posted September 24, 2013 Posted September 24, 2013 No doubt in my mind that the Hs129 is the most needed aircraft for LW to be effective especially against armor columns.
Roast Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 Although the Hs 129 may be a more logical choice, I voted Hs 123 as I like the more unusual aircraft in this flightsim. Let's hope BoS team will consider this unusual and reliable plane..
12.DD_Agost Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 Hs 123 pro's - reliable,rugged and sturdy, pinpoint accuracy, excellent for ground support missions, lots of mods con's - limited numbers (250 total, production ceased in 1938), obsolete design, limited armament (4*SC50 and 1 SC250, 2 7,92mm MG17) Hs 129 pro's - good armament (2 7,92mm MG17, 2 MG151/20 20mm, 4 50kg bombs) effective against armored targets with the Mk101 and Mk103 30mm pods (especially the BK 3,5 but it only saw service from june 1944), excellent armor con's - underpowered, poor handling, heavy I like the HS123 more but the HS129 along with the Ju 87 G (which appeared in january 1943) is desperately needed against the well armoured soviet tanks.... So I will say include them both
Adebar Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 Hs 129. Good memories flying this plane in games... Reminds me of a duck with the green paint job and the yellow nose.
HagarTheHorrible Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 If I remember properly, Eric Brown tested a 129 and thought it was an awful aircraft to fly. It will be interesting to see how popular the 87 is to fly. It will need good fighter protection in order to survive against even the most basic opposition, which means good to excellent co-op play on line or well crafted missions and A.I for offline. The only way I would see a good online mission working would be to give the VVS under performing fighters to recreate the better training, experience and tactics of the Luftwaffe during that stage of the war. 1
III/JG53Frankyboy Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 in IL2 COOP onlinewars i flew the Ju87 when ever available. Had some of my best missions with it. Beeing on coms with my comrades ( flying other 87s, flying as gunners, flying the escort fighters) and we won a lot of missiongoals, end even survived a lot of them ! Golden Times of combatsim online play , and i doubt theywill come again IMHO. 1
Tonkonk Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 (edited) Bah I want the Ju 87 G1/2 Kanonenvogel (but also the Hs 129 ) Edited December 30, 2013 by Tonkonk
beepee Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 (edited) I voted for the Hs129. The B-3 variant had a ventral BK7.5(75mm Canon). Even though that version did not appear until June 1944 and there were only 25 or so modified to carry the canon, that's some can opener right there. The main reason I voted for this is because (as mentioned above), there is no Bf-110 or Ju-88 in sight. Edited January 3, 2014 by =TFK=Beeps
Foobar Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 The main reason I voted for this is because (as mentioned above), there is no Bf-110 or Ju-88 in sight. After reading all comments of Jason and Loft I see more chances for a Bf 110 than Hs 129. 1
beepee Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 After reading all comments of Jason and Loft I see more chances for a Bf 110 than Hs 129. That's great to hear. Thank you!
SOLIDKREATE Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) Resurrecting, we can't lose interest. Hs-129B/R2 'The Bringer of Death'. Swastika Spoiler Edited January 5, 2015 by SPEKTRE76
6./ZG26_5tuka Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) Difficult choice. I would like to vote for both Henschels equally The Hs 123 were out of production since the beginning of the eastern front campaign but served their Sturzkampfgeschwader very well. Infact those old, rugged biplanes worked better under those critical conditions than some of the modern fighters and proved to be very effective. If attacked by fighters they could enter low speed turnfights no russian fighter could keep up with except the I-16. The only thing that sorted them out of fighting units over time was the lack of spare parts. It still remained a valued part of the grerman strike force till the war's end. A very nice feauture of it was that it incidently developed a strange noise when running the engine on a certain RPM. In dives this noise developed into sth similar to machinegun fire which germans used for practising terror attacks on troops in Spain and France. It's surely the effect of the Hs 123 that pushed the development of the Stuka to be the ultimate terror weapon of the early years of the war. Despite it's stunning success it is quite unknown and has not been represented in flightsims. It could give 777 the chance to be the first to "revive" this plane with it's iconic feautures. The Hs 129 is also great but the early A models (fitted with weaker Argus engines) suffered from mechanical issues and bad performance. Unlike the Hs 123 it was an easy, and defenseless prey for russian fighters. Still it had a stunnig weapon selection ranging from high calibre anti tank guns to hollow charge and cluster bombs. It's definetly a plane to look ahead to for improving the Luftwaffe's air to ground fighting capebilities. Edited January 9, 2015 by Stab/JG26_5tuka
Skoop Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 I'd like to see the Hs-129 add as a single plane dlc. It was in service during summer 1942 so why not ?
Skoop Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 That's for BOM, what I'm talking about is a single aircraft dlc of the Hs-129 for BOS, maybe sell it for 10 of 15 bucks.
Danziger Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 From what I can tell you can use BoM planes in BoS as long as you have both.
Skoop Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 That's cool, but the Hs-129 wasn't present at BOM, so that's not going to work. I guess the Hs-129 will be slatted for a potential Battle of Kursk, it was more common there. It would be cool if we had the 75mm gun added as a field mod. It would be a nice addition for penetrating those heavy Russian tanks. There's all kinds of armaments for the 129, the field mods would be great for it. One of my favorites from the original il2.
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