New La5 engine controls have gotten mixed up

[RydnDirty]

I see the La5 now has new controls

 

A key for engine inlet cowl. Which opens the circular cowl around the spinner. The cockpit control is a wheel on the right side next to the seat.

 

A key for engine outlet cowl. Which now closes the side cowls ( the outlet for the air that came in through the first inlet around the spinner).The cockpit control for this is a wheel on the right next to the inlet wheel.  And the same key closes the flap on the rear of the oil cooler under the engine. The control in the cockpit is the lever on the left of the cockpit.

 

The two wheels in the cockpit for the inlet and outlet cowls that provide air cooling to the engine are positioned so the pilot can turn them both at the same time with his right hand. As it is the same air flow it makes sense to open and close them together.

 

The lever on the left is for the separate oil rad. To simultaneously close the oil rad and the outlet cowl would mean taking both hands off the stick.  Lever on the let and wheel on the right.

 

The old controls made much more sense with the air cooling cowls working together and the oil rads separately.

 

You can see from external view how the controls have gotten mixed up . Very nice detailed model of the engine and air cooling though. Hope it can be fixed again.

 

 

 

 

[Matt]

The oil cooler control is seperated from the other controls.

[Voidhunger]

The oil cooler control is seperated from the other controls.

oil cooler has the same key for engine inlet cowls

Edited November 17, 2014 by Voidhunger

[Matt]

By default perhaps, but you can use other keys for that and set it up like you want.

[Voidhunger]

By default perhaps, but you can use other keys for that and set it up like you want.

I know but maybe Willy doesnt

Edited November 17, 2014 by Voidhunger

[56RAF_phoenix56]

I've just updated from 1.003.

I don't seem to have to map all my controls again.

I've DIFFed the old and new current.actions files and the following inputs are new:

commandmenu
set_altimeter_reference_pressure
rpc_all_engines_in_cowls_shutters
rpc_engine_1_in_cowl_shutter
rpc_engine_2_in_cowl_shutter
throw_bombs_delay
throw_bombs_command
launch_rockets_command

with the following replaced by the equivalent commands above:

throw_bombs
launch_rockets

and these deleted:

cam_rotate_hf_yaw
cam_rotate_hf_pitch
bc_gun4
bc_gun5

Finally, for expediency, I set my open/close engine inlet_cowl/outlet_cowl/water_radiator to the same two keys. That way I can fly with the same controls on all 'planes. As oil temperature is less critical I use common engine keys for that.

 

Hope this helps,

 

56RAF_phoenix

Edited November 17, 2014 by 56RAF56RAF_phoenix

[BlitzPig_EL]

Can all the cowl venting controls, radiators, vents, etc, be mapped to an axis?

 

I have a CH quadrant with six levers on it, can it be done in BoS?

[Yakdriver]

nope, at least not on my X-52

Edited November 17, 2014 by Hawker_Typhoon

[J2_Trupobaw]

You surely can map cowling and water radiator to one axis, they never coexist on the same plane.

Is there a point in mapping inlet and outlet cowls to separate axes if they are meant to be used together? I've mapped extra cowl to adjustible stabiliser axis (again, no conflict), but maybe I can bunch them together?

What would be consequence of opening just one cowl. Inlet closed and outlet open owuld result in pointless drag, inlet open and outlet closed would do... what exactly?

[LukeFF]

Can all the cowl venting controls, radiators, vents, etc, be mapped to an axis?

 

I have a CH quadrant with six levers on it, can it be done in BoS?

 

Yes

[=38=Tatarenko]

Yes, for the La-5 I have Oil Rad on one and Inlet/Outlet together on another.

[Matt]

You surely can map cowling and water radiator to one axis, they never coexist on the same plane.

 

What would be consequence of opening just one cowl. Inlet closed and outlet open owuld result in pointless drag, inlet open and outlet closed would do... what exactly?

I only ran a short test.

 

With closed inlet, the engine will overheat very quickly, even with outer flaps fully open. With fully closed outer flaps and fully open inlet, it overheats very slowy and the drag is much less than with both fully open. So i would not put them on the same axis. Most of the time you'll have to fly with open inlet, but at the same time won't need open outer flaps.

 

Putting the inlet controls and the oil cooler on one axis works fine, because both the oil cooler and inlet covers only create little drag and both have a huge impact on engine temperature (overheating when closing them, overcooling when having them open in a dive).

[56RAF_phoenix56]

Can all the cowl venting controls, radiators, vents, etc, be mapped to an axis?

 

I have a CH quadrant with six levers on it, can it be done in BoS?

I also have a CH 6 axis, I've not tried over-assigning axes rather than keys, but I'm sure LukeFF is right.

 

Because I also want to fly twin engines, I keep 2 axes for the throttle, two for pitch and two for mixture as I reckon these are the things you need to change quickly. Whereas radiators etc aren't quite so urgent.

 

In a way, the CH quadrant would have been better with 5 axes, then you could use two of them: throttle, pitch, mixture, water_rad/cowl_inlet/cowl_outlet, oil rad for each engine.

 

56RAF_phoenix

I only ran a short test.

 

With closed inlet, the engine will overheat very quickly, even with outer flaps fully open. With fully closed outer flaps and fully open inlet, it overheats very slowy and the drag is much less than with both fully open. So i would not put them on the same axis. Most of the time you'll have to fly with open inlet, but at the same time won't need open outer flaps.

 

Putting the inlet controls and the oil cooler on one axis works fine, because both the oil cooler and inlet covers only create little drag and both have a huge impact on engine temperature (overheating when closing them, overcooling when having them open in a dive).

Excellent input Matt, thanks!

 

56RAF_phoenix

[6./ZG26_5tuka]

Yes

Not so for the He 111 oil coolers though. But it woks fine for all kinds of coolers on other planes.

Edited November 17, 2014 by [Jg26]5tuka

[RydnDirty]

Well my face is red. I had double bound the keys for air cooling outlet and oil rads.. entirely my fault. Sorry about that chief. 

 

Thanks for your answers . They made me go back and check.

 

 

I also double up the keys for water rads and air cooling cowls... as they are mutually exclusive. 

 

 

I was testing the air cooling now I have it bound properly and I see that nearly all the drag comes from the outlet flaps. If I run with the inlet fully closed the engine konks out not from overheating though... Just wondering how they would use these control historically. And why the engine konks out

 

 

I am very happy to have extra control with separate wheels for each. More detail is good  

 

As I join the team with less players on the server and the La5 is the best energy fighter Russia got I end up flying it quite a lot. 

Edited November 18, 2014 by WillyZurmacht