Wobbly controls

[Taffelman]

I'm having an impossible time trying to aim in this game. I've played with all the settings without any luck several times. I guess I just have to wait until they fix this or until I buy a new joystick kit. At the moment I've given up playing Stalingrad as there is no enjoyment when I can't hit anything. Shame because I can see that this game is good and a game I'm going to like. My current joystick is an old cheap Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, but it works in every other game I play - including War Thunder.

 

Was looking at a new kit. Which would you guys recommend of the Saitek X52 or X55? Both seems reasonably priced compared to a HOTAS which I just find too expensive.

[Pr0t0c0l]

Be sure it is not your Stick, although it is an old one.

Looks like mrore than a few got that problem.

Me aswell by using a G940.

[No_85_Gramps]

Go into the settings, camera, and make sure head shake is not checked. I overlooked that setting early myself. Not sure if it will help but no harm in trying.

[-TBC-AeroAce]

this game is a lot more sensitive and realistic  than most other games, it just takes a bit of time to get used to  

[CaK_Rumcajs]

I'm having an impossible time trying to aim in this game. I've played with all the settings without any luck several times. I guess I just have to wait until they fix this or until I buy a new joystick kit. At the moment I've given up playing Stalingrad as there is no enjoyment when I can't hit anything. Shame because I can see that this game is good and a game I'm going to like. My current joystick is an old cheap Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, but it works in every other game I play - including War Thunder.

 

Was looking at a new kit. Which would you guys recommend of the Saitek X52 or X55? Both seems reasonably priced compared to a HOTAS which I just find too expensive.

The game requires really good hardware. Quality of the stick and pedals make the difference. If you can't afford quality equipment increase sensitivity settings for rudder and elevator. It's a double edged sword but can help a bit. Still I strongly recommend you to get good flight equipment. VKB Mamba stick, Crosswind or Slaw Pedals ... yea I know, lot's of money. Also don't forget "Practice makes perfect".

[=LD=Hethwill]

One thing it helps is tuning the Noise Filter for your devices.

 

In my case, X52 Pro, i set it up to 0.15.

 

Basically disregards any silly junk inputs from the potentiometer. 

[dburne]

The game requires really good hardware. Quality of the stick and pedals make the difference. If you can't afford quality equipment increase sensitivity settings for rudder and elevator. It's a double edged sword but can help a bit. Still I strongly recommend you to get good flight equipment. VKB Mamba stick, Crosswind or Slaw Pedals ... yea I know, lot's of money. Also don't forget "Practice makes perfect".

 

Even with good quality hardware, the pitch and yaw axis on several aircraft is way too sensitive.

[andyw248]

Even with good quality hardware, the pitch and yaw axis on several aircraft is way too sensitive.

 

Not once you have that stick extension... 15 cm on a warthog will turn it into precision flying

[CaK_Rumcajs]

Even with good quality hardware, the pitch and yaw axis on several aircraft is way too sensitive.

It may be true. Still the aircraft can be controlled without much difficulty. I fly with linear responses on all axes and the only that I'm not exactly comfortable with is the roll axis on FW 190. I have the comparison between flying with Saitek plastic pedals and MFG pedals and I must confess that I'm not able to fly precisely with the Saitek pedals. The flight gear you use makes a huge difference.

Which AC do you find too sensitive on which axis?

[BzKBravoZulu]

I am still using my 6 year old Logi Exctreme 3D pro... Over the years I have bought 5 other sticks (2 of them Force Feedback)

and I still kept coming back to the 3D pro... It truly is a legendary stick imho.

 

I cant get a cool hotas cause I am left handed and bought 2 different saitek sticks cause they are ambidextrous... And I still came back

to the 3D pro - which I fly with my left hand - I take the discomfort of it cause there is simply nothing out there to beat it.

 

Before you invest in a new stick, try a couple of things first :

 

1. Make sure your plane is trimmed to your comfort and style of flying before you try hard dogfighting maneuvers.

Also try desensitize the twist rudder axis as much as you can ingame... unintentional rudder input on the twist rudder can really yank

you around... so maybe put in a larger centre deadzone in your rudder if you tend to use large, quick stick movements.

 

2. Don't zoom in too close with your gunsight view or too far out. getting in too close with FOV the plane will always seem to bob

around... too far and your distance judgement goes to pot...  Get a good mid range zoom that you're comfortable with,

map it and stick with it... get used to one shooting FOV so your distance judgement can start matching the deflection and timing

of your shots more consistently.

 

3. Not sure if you tried to do his already, but its worth mentioning... Try get in closer to your targets before loosing your first shots.

Don't start shooting until the target is at least 250m (0.25) or even less if you can reel him in closer.

 

4. Get on teamspeak with other guys and there will always be a couple willing to practice with you and help you. Maybe

they can spot where it is you're having issues and help you iron them out.

 

 

I know how frustrating it is when you feel you can't get it right... (I am the same with the damned bombing... )

 

See you in the skies and happy hunting

Edited November 16, 2014 by BZKBravoZulu

[vonPilsner]

I had to adjust the (in-game) sensitivity for all my flight controller axes, you might need to do the same.

[Taffelman]

Thanks for the excellent advice BZKBravoZulu! Will try out your tips. I think you might be one to something about the rudder though!

[Cognac]

One thing it helps is tuning the Noise Filter for your devices.

 

In my case, X52 Pro, i set it up to 0.15.

 

Basically disregards any silly junk inputs from the potentiometer. 

Where do I find the settings for adjusting the Noise Filter?

[=LD=Hethwill]

Controls Screen

 

On the Bottom you will see a Devices

 

Click on it.

[lll/jg77duck109g]

it seam that the game is very sensitive more so then others I fly 5 different game the two that are very hard and I cant get them under real control is this game and rise of flight it , from what I here mouse and key board have and easier time of it ,they may need to deadening in to the controls for flight stick users I would be nice if they could.

[SYN_Vorlander]

It takes practice. The speed between the targets makes it really hard to hit your opponent. In rise of flight its easier for me to hit an opponent than BOS because

of the speed. When I started BOS I was only able to hit the DECK and hardly ever killed an opponent. Timing and planning your attack within a few seconds makes the difference.

 

Hardware (Warthog Stick with extension, VKB Black Mamba Stick, MFG pedals) is surely the key to a better flying experience and therefor better accuracy. BUT there

are brilliant players with the same twist stick as you shooting down 109's and Yak's.

Edited December 12, 2014 by SYN_Vorlander

[N1SB.Jefu]

The game requires really good hardware. Quality of the stick and pedals make the difference. If you can't afford quality equipment increase sensitivity settings for rudder and elevator. It's a double edged sword but can help a bit. Still I strongly recommend you to get good flight equipment. VKB Mamba stick, Crosswind or Slaw Pedals ... yea I know, lot's of money. Also don't forget "Practice makes perfect".

 

Despite the awesomeness of these products, you dont need to spend €600 to stop your plane wobbling.

 

A well setup Thrustmaster/Logitech 3D will suffice for all but flight enthusiasts. If you want quality you can also step up to the Saitek X52 Hotas + Saitek Pedals for around £200-£250.

Edited December 12, 2014 by N1SB.Jefu

[CaK_Rumcajs]

Despite the awesomeness of these products, you dont need to spend €600 to stop your plane wobbling.

 

A well setup Thrustmaster/Logitech 3D will suffice for all but flight enthusiasts. If you want quality you can also step up to the Saitek X52 Hotas + Saitek Pedals for around £200-£250.

Of course it's not necessary to spend a bambillion of € on a stick and pedals. Almost any flight gear will do. You'll end up with setting up sensitivity of elevator and rudder axes. And you'll know your flight gear is not up the task when you need to set those to 50% or above. It's been discussed so many times it's pointless to repeat all the facts. A high percentage response curve is kind of a double-edged sword. OK, there is a solution to stop BOS planes wobbling. Either use sensitivity settings or get better HW. While the first is not a solution the latter is expensive. To each his own.

[SYN_Vorlander]

Of course it's not necessary to spend a bambillion of € on a stick and pedals. Almost any flight gear will do. You'll end up with setting up sensitivity of elevator and rudder axes. And you'll know your flight gear is not up the task when you need to set those to 50% or above. It's been discussed so many times it's pointless to repeat all the facts. A high percentage response curve is kind of a double-edged sword. OK, there is a solution to stop BOS planes wobbling. Either use sensitivity settings or get better HW. While the first is not a solution the latter is expensive. To each his own.

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[BzKBravoZulu]

 

 

Thanks for the excellent advice BZKBravoZulu! Will try out your tips. I think you might be one to something about the rudder though!

 

Glad to help, hope you come right.

[Taffelman]

The missis gave me an X-55 HOTAS this christmas. Feels very good now so either they've fixed the controls or the new stick made all the difference.