"The Crazy Ivan" A controllable evasive maneuver

[BzKBravoZulu]

My First Vid - If you guys think it has any value, I can try make it bigger and better...

And maybe a series of adverse condition maneuvering.

 

Happy Hunting.

 

http://youtu.be/LetYcEwfX8Y

[216th_Xenos]

Finally it's up, thank you! Will have to get into the training server with you again at some point!

[SAG]

i tried it a couple of times, not as easy as it looks (specially at tree level   )   

[Pringliano]

I'd rather not have seen this :-(  ... sorry ....  Together with the "Cobra" .... Well....

Edited November 14, 2014 by jcomm

[=LD=Hethwill]

Will work as much as a normal snap roll and rudder slip follow up.

 

Bad: opens up cross section entirely to a snap shot.

 

Thanks for the video though.

Edited November 14, 2014 by =LD=Hethwill_Khan

[mondog]

Is that actually possible in the real aircraft!? Or abuse of the physic engine?

[=LD=Hethwill]

Is that actually possible in the real aircraft!? Or abuse of the physic engine?

 

Don't think IRL pilots risk as much... for obvious reasons. ( love sims irrealistic use of planes if it works it works, if not...respawn )

 

Maybe it was done a lot of times during the operatinal life of the planes, but ... who knows...

[DD_bongodriver]

Come on folks, we all know that arbitrary physics in a computer game are now the ultimate source of the truth, we now know for sure a Fw190 could do a 'cobra' because......well....you know.....Physics.......in a game.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xncfPu3XS24

[unreasonable]

Have to admit I have always wondered why it was so difficult to do an accelerated stall in this game. (Is that right term - you know where you stall at high speed when changing AoA too quickly?)

[DD_bongodriver]

Have to admit I have always wondered why it was so difficult to do an accelerated stall in this game. (Is that right term - you know where you stall at high speed when changing AoA too quickly?)

 

Yes, accelerated stall, high-speed stall are common terms for it.......only it's not so difficult to do in game as long as it's negative g.

[BlackDevil]

I see this kind of stuff at every airshow. But they don´t do it on the deck, because they have only one live.

[DD_bongodriver]

You see Fw190's doing the cobra all the time?

[BzKBravoZulu]

Have to admit I have always wondered why it was so difficult to do an accelerated stall in this game. (Is that right term - you know where you stall at high speed when changing AoA too quickly?)

 

Yeah, it is quite difficult to do, I found that myself... Specially in the Russian planes. I found that I could induce a fast change to my AoA when I initiated it coming out from a roll or from a gentle right bank... I find trying that sort of thing from a left banking turn normally always resulted in that hard to control crazy cork-screwing motion that gives you very little verticality and almost always ends up in a complete stall.

 

Thats why in the vid I made a point of saying that it helps to practice these types of maneuvers by first initiating some lateral movement in the plane. You can get a far more predictable, and replaceable, result than you can from initiating it from a static straight and level attitude. 

Edited November 14, 2014 by BZKBravoZulu

[Y-29.Silky]

Is this done with expert or easy settings? People can change the settings to take stall off, etc, etc.

[BzKBravoZulu]

Is this done with expert or easy settings? People can change the settings to take stall off, etc, etc.

It is with full physics ....

[BlackDevil]

You see Fw190's doing the cobra all the time?

A relative of my wife flew the 190. What do you know ? Today they don't show aerobatic with german warbirds anymore. But you see this stuff flown by any aerobatic plane nowadays.

[-NW-ChiefRedCloud]

Come on folks, we all know that arbitrary physics in a computer game are now the ultimate source of the truth, we now know for sure a Fw190 could do a 'cobra' because......well....you know.....Physics.......in a game.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xncfPu3XS24

 

How'd you do the smoke or what ever it is?

 

Chief

[kissklas]

On Wikipedia I found out that the Cobra manoeuvre was first made while testing the Su-27. Which was in the late 70s.

 

Who knows; maybe the FW190 was a able to do such a manoeuvre?

[Lusekofte]

Personally I think that is possible to do in a real YAK , nimble light and relative powerful engine. The pilots did go vertical and flipped over just before a stall.

He did it at very low level, not too far and manage to get out of it fast enough while the engine still got forward trust .

Not at all unrealistic

[=LD=Penshoon]

Both examples looks like the plane momentarily enters a "deep stall" right? 

@1:50 

 

[Brano]

Thats no cobra maneuver,sorry.You must be at 120° angle towards horizontal plane of flight in this maneuver.That Fw was merely at 70-80.

 

Come on folks, we all know that arbitrary physics in a computer game are now the ultimate source of the truth, we now know for sure a Fw190 could do a 'cobra' because......well....you know.....Physics.......in a game.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xncfPu3XS24

[Reflected]

Ah, 70-80? That's ok then, way below the critical AoA of the Focke Wulf 

 

As we all know:

 

 

 

[RydnDirty]

Even if it was possible to do this in a real, war time FW190 I don't think for a minute that anyone ever practiced it or even dreamt of doing it in combat.

 

 

As we all know the Fw190 is a big heavy powerful energy fighter and as long as he keeps his E up he can just extend away in a high speed climb, come back when he has the altitude advantage again. 

 

Fockewulf is king of inertia fighting and to do this maneuver is to throw away his advantage.

[volonter]

Is this done with expert or easy settings?

individual settings: expert + external review

[volonter]

On Wikipedia I found out that the Cobra manoeuvre was first made while testing the Su-27. Which was in the late 70s.

 

Who knows; maybe the FW190 was a able to do such a manoeuvre?

can't, the aircraft was abandoned by the inertia of the plane forward, but it's not Cobra )