LLv44_Mprhead Posted April 23, 2014 Posted April 23, 2014 Yes tikvic, I did hear from Eduard. He indicated they are taking pre-orders for the Fat Black Mamba and Mamba Lite. I have mailed them couple of times, and not heard back anything. Did he give any details about pre-orders and when they might have the next batch ready?
oneeyeddog Posted April 23, 2014 Posted April 23, 2014 I have mailed them couple of times, and not heard back anything. Did he give any details about pre-orders and when they might have the next batch ready? Yesterday, I asked if he could give me any details regarding the availability of a new batch and promptly received a reply. He said that they were expected June-July barring any delays. I would still like to hear some comments from those in North America regarding their experience ordering from VBK and with the VBK joysticks.
Bando Posted April 24, 2014 Posted April 24, 2014 Today I got an email from Eduard telling me my pre order is registered and that they are likely to ship in June-July. KG12 will be able to be shipped a couple of months later. Sounds all good so far.
Sokol1 Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=175760&d=1398595753 Sokol1
Sokol1 Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 KG-12 ETA: next February... "Да я планировал в феврале еще ручки выпустить." T-Pedal assembly, adjust. http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachment.php?s=a45b590fa143541b9292f54009912cf0&attachmentid=175736&d=1398419709 http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachment.php?s=a45b590fa143541b9292f54009912cf0&attachmentid=175737&d=1398419776 http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachment.php?s=a45b590fa143541b9292f54009912cf0&attachmentid=175757&d=1398595382 http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachment.php?s=a45b590fa143541b9292f54009912cf0&attachmentid=175758&d=1398595420 http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachment.php?s=a45b590fa143541b9292f54009912cf0&attachmentid=175759&d=1398595457 Sokol1
oneeyeddog Posted May 5, 2014 Posted May 5, 2014 Has anyone else pre ordered a VKB joystick? Does anyone use one of the VKB joystick extensions with their VKB joystick and if so could you offer some feedback? Thanks.
Bando Posted May 5, 2014 Posted May 5, 2014 (edited) Yes I preordered a Mamba light with extension and a KG12 as soon as it is available. I got an Email telling me I'm on the list and they expect to contact me in the summer about it. Waiting patiently now... Edited May 5, 2014 by Bando
Zettman Posted May 5, 2014 Posted May 5, 2014 I preordered too. Fat Black Mamba with Warthog adapter. Only thing thatz eases the waiting time, is that my MFG Crosswinds will arrive soon. Zettman
SeaQuark Posted May 7, 2014 Posted May 7, 2014 Yes I preordered a Mamba light with extension and a KG12 as soon as it is available. I got an Email telling me I'm on the list and they expect to contact me in the summer about it. Waiting patiently now... Did you get a total price on that? Can you order the Mamba Light with just the KG12 for reduced price, or does it come with the standard stick and you have to buy the KG12 separately? Has anyone else pre ordered a VKB joystick? Does anyone use one of the VKB joystick extensions with their VKB joystick and if so could you offer some feedback? Thanks. Would also be curious to hear first-hand reviews of these sticks in general. Does their solid construction make them more of a strain to operate than the cheaper joysticks?
Bando Posted May 7, 2014 Posted May 7, 2014 @SeaQuarrk: No price has been mentioned, just that my order is noted and in due time I will get notified. If I confirm the order after this they'll sent me the pricetag (I presume) and that's it. I expect the Mamba with extension first and the KG12 later (I read somewhere it'll be spring next year) I intend to report the process here, once it starts.
SeaQuark Posted May 8, 2014 Posted May 8, 2014 Thanks, Bando! Quite a mysterious operation they're running there, but I suppose that's to be expected for a small and specialized business like this. 1
ST_Pirato Posted May 8, 2014 Posted May 8, 2014 I got a Fat Black Mamba from them last year. Once the Stick was aviable for sending it out it was at my home 2 or 3 days later without any issues. Though the Warehouse is in the Netherlands and I live in Germany so it's not that far away. Even if Emails and Infos etc take some time, they are still a reliable shop imo. A few days ago I got confirmation from my preorder of the Warthog adapter,that I showed interest in February already...well I'm still waiting for the Invoice,the last Email stated that it's ready for order now and I will get it as soon as I confirm that I'm still want it which I did the same day.^^ Guess I have to wait,hopefully not for too long. 1
oneeyeddog Posted May 8, 2014 Posted May 8, 2014 I got a Fat Black Mamba from them last year. Once the Stick was aviable for sending it out it was at my home 2 or 3 days later without any issues. Though the Warehouse is in the Netherlands and I live in Germany so it's not that far away. Even if Emails and Infos etc take some time, they are still a reliable shop imo. A few days ago I got confirmation from my preorder of the Warthog adapter,that I showed interest in February already...well I'm still waiting for the Invoice,the last Email stated that it's ready for order now and I will get it as soon as I confirm that I'm still want it which I did the same day.^^ Guess I have to wait,hopefully not for too long. Thanks for this info Pirato and Bando. It is both Encouraging and reassuring to hear some feedback from folks who have 1st hand experience dealing with VKB.
oneeyeddog Posted May 8, 2014 Posted May 8, 2014 Thanks, Bando! Quite a mysterious operation they're running there, but I suppose that's to be expected for a small and specialized business like this. Seaquark, it does seem to be a bit hard to get info on these Guys and most of the reviews I've seen are based on 1 or 2 sources and are a bit dated. Here is a link to a Russian VKB site that has some more info, although you have to struggle with Google translator assuming you don't read Russian. http://forum.vkb-sim.pro/index.php
oneeyeddog Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 @SeaQuarrk: No price has been mentioned, just that my order is noted and in due time I will get notified. If I confirm the order after this they'll sent me the pricetag (I presume) and that's it. I expect the Mamba with extension first and the KG12 later (I read somewhere it'll be spring next year) I intend to report the process here, once it starts. I emailed Eduard yesterday with a few questions and received his response today. I asked for and was given a rough estimate for A Black Mamba Pro with a handle extension and shipping to the US.
Rubzy Posted May 10, 2014 Posted May 10, 2014 I have been trying to pre-order a Black Mamba Light with no response from the web contact form. Couls some one please provide me withe the e-mail of Eduard, as he seems to be handling most issues,? Many thanks
oneeyeddog Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 I would still like to hear some feedback from folks that own VKB products. Does anyone in N. America use their joysticks or rudder pedals? Thanks
Sokol1 Posted May 18, 2014 Posted May 18, 2014 These KG-12 drawings are WiP - grip knurled part is not rendered - but show to much concession to "ergonomics"... http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachment.php?s=8569d02435b38a1ae5a83e4bb7803d4f&attachmentid=176108&d=1400298886 http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachment.php?s=8569d02435b38a1ae5a83e4bb7803d4f&attachmentid=176109&d=1400298904 http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachment.php?s=8569d02435b38a1ae5a83e4bb7803d4f&attachmentid=176110&d=1400298919 http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachment.php?s=8569d02435b38a1ae5a83e4bb7803d4f&attachmentid=176111&d=1400298935 http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachment.php?s=8569d02435b38a1ae5a83e4bb7803d4f&attachmentid=176112&d=1400298952 For now seem more "lookalike" than semi-replic... Sokol1
oneeyeddog Posted May 18, 2014 Posted May 18, 2014 Sokol1, thanks for posting. I agree with your assessment, they do appear more like a 'lookalike' than a replica.
Bando Posted May 18, 2014 Posted May 18, 2014 I hope their stick of the KG12 will be available sooner than next years spring. I'll buy it in a second, no probs.
VO101_MMaister Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 These KG-12 drawings are WiP - grip knurled part is not rendered - but show to much concession to "ergonomics"... http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachment.php?s=8569d02435b38a1ae5a83e4bb7803d4f&attachmentid=176108&d=1400298886 http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachment.php?s=8569d02435b38a1ae5a83e4bb7803d4f&attachmentid=176109&d=1400298904 http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachment.php?s=8569d02435b38a1ae5a83e4bb7803d4f&attachmentid=176110&d=1400298919 http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachment.php?s=8569d02435b38a1ae5a83e4bb7803d4f&attachmentid=176111&d=1400298935 http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachment.php?s=8569d02435b38a1ae5a83e4bb7803d4f&attachmentid=176112&d=1400298952 For now seem more "lookalike" than semi-replic... Sokol1 Hmm, I can`t see here any ergonomical advantage compared to the original design. Imho It just ruins the look.
15[Span.]/JG51Costa Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 Hmm, I can`t see here any ergonomical advantage compared to the original design. Imho It just ruins the look. Agree
JG27_Chivas Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 I do like the stick, but its difficult to assess its availability etc. I certainly don't like the latest sticks color palette and find it an immersion killer for a WW2 control stick.
WilyTink Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 I've sent VKB an email to try and reserve a black mamba pro almost a week ago and still have not heard anything from them. Has anyone here tried to contact them with any success?
oneeyeddog Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 WilyTink, I have emailed them recently and received prompt responses. Try sending your email to vkb@flightsimcontrols.com if you haven't already.
WilyTink Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 Thanks oneeyeddog, that's the email i used.Sent one on Sunday and sent another directly from their store home page which is the same email but nothing yet. I know the store page says next batch will be June/July...was hoping to get an order in before they are all gone.
oneeyeddog Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 Wily, the 1st few emails I sent were not answered quickly either. Once i 'made contact' i've received replies from Eduard within 24 hours so just keep badgering them. I think this is a very small company with great products.
ST_Pirato Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 Sometimes it takes a good while until you get response. I've sent an Email mid February and got a reply almost 2 month later. After all they want your Money,so they will have to contact you,or it's their loss.^^
WilyTink Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 On the fligh sim controls home page under contact us, they give three ways...The email, twitter which doesn't look like it's been used in a long time and a box to send a message directly there(Which i've done). Just seems like if they want to sell these products and they have the email under contact us, they should check it a little more often...I will wait a while longer but if they don't reply withen the next couple of weeks, i guess i will go with the warthog(Really want the black mamba).
Sokol1 Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 (edited) Post - in English - in one these topics that you want buy, some VKB guys are write there. http://forum.il2sturmovik.ru/topic/1087-kg-13-mechta-v-rukah/ - Use the same login from here. But, since they only work with pre-order (take X order, make a batch, each take ~4/6 months...), is need patience to get one these "precious". Sokol1 Edited May 24, 2014 by Sokol1
oneeyeddog Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 Hello again Wily. here is a link to the VKB Russian site that shows lots of activity. http://forum.vkb-sim.pro/index.php I've tried to register here using google translate by I'm thwarted by a final security question that will not translate for some reason.
WilyTink Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 Thanks guys. Oneeyeddog, i just tried that link and tried to register....lol.one security question translated to "what grow on apple" another was "Was color is ice"(I guess clear isn't a color).I used up all the attempts. Sokol1, That looks like a good place to ask but everytime i try to go to another page Google translate just stops translating. Appreciate the help, i will keep trying.
Zettman Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 (edited) They updated their English main page. Q: When the next production run for Black Mamba joystick will be available ? Is it still possible to get them in Q2 ? A: Unfortunately, it will not be available in Q2. VKB was busy with production of new rudder pedals – T-rudder model. Therefore, production run for Black Mamba was delayed for couple of month. The joysticks are expected to be in stock in EU shop at the end of August. By the way, T-rudder pedals are arrived and will be announced on the website very soon. http://flightsimcontrols.com/2014/06/black-mamba-joystick-new-batch-availability/ Edited June 17, 2014 by Zettman
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