LAGG3 landing

[[JGF]Caponi]

ends at lower speed at the end in one or two pirouettes

i know i cant lock the tail wheel ...

 

i use the brake,..

i dont use the brake ...

 

nothing helps

 

i puched the elevator back for more downforce ..

 

nothing helps

 

can someone give an advice ...

 

i read the tuts and i saw reqiems video 

 

nothing helps ...

 

100% rpm pitch

50% mixture

alls radiators are closed

 

touch down at 175kph

 

 

thx Cap

Edited November 7, 2014 by caponi

[-TBC-AeroAce]

Keep the throttle at around 20 to 25% and you should not spin, once u have slowed down then take put it to zero

[Yakdriver]

just what i was thinking: probably no rudder effectiveness - torque makes you spin?
keep the airflow on the rudder for a while so you can steer...

[Dakpilot]

I notice you have mixture set to 50%... why is that?  don't know if it would cause any issue, but at ground/sea level it should be full rich/100%

 

Cheers Dakpilot

[-TBC-AeroAce]

I notice you have mixture set to 50%... why is that?  don't know if it would cause any issue, but at ground/sea level it should be full rich/100%

 

Cheers Dakpilot

 

I find that it leans out perfectly around 75% at sea level

 

 

But changing the mixture wont really effect the ground looping unless u cut the engine out completely

[1./KG4_Blackwolf]

I drop my rpms to 0 and throttle as soon as I'm committed to the landing. I know my wheels are about to touch, I zero everything. Seems to work.

 

EDIT I should add I do run it back up to about 15- 20%  right after I'm on the ground. Sorry hit post to fast.

Edited November 7, 2014 by Blackwolf

[[JGF]Caponi]

thx ... i will practice LAGG3 landing 

 

and then i will tell u my way

Edited November 7, 2014 by caponi

[snowsnipersnow_sniper]

http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/9668-lagg-and-ground-control/

http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/9584-la-5-quick-guide/?do=findComment&comment=149034

 

Keep 20% throttle when you brakes at the end of runway.

[VBF-12_Stick-95]

How much flaps are you using?  I only use about 20%

[[JGF]Caponi]

full flaps 100% ... that's wrong ?

 

 

i could land one time yesterday evening without pirouettes

and then i was not able to repeat it

 

this was the much difficulty landing method in my whole sim carreer

 

may be that something is wrong with the controller setup, but i have only this problem by this dam plane

Edited November 8, 2014 by caponi

[BlackDevil]

I land full flaps. Either a little bit of power and brakes at the end, or no brakes and no power. Just keep it straight aggresively

[snowsnipersnow_sniper]

Original manual from La-5 ( same wings shape as Lagg 3 exept motor)  is MAX 30 % flaps, I use 20 %

see video above.

 

when on runway  to avoid ground loop :

 

1) take care your rudder come back in the middle ( in the setting device page : uncheck  "noise Filter"  . Now it is well centered when used and easier to keep straight on taxiing and ground breaking ) http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/9584-la-5-quick-guide/?do=findComment&comment=149034

 

2) use fast yaw rudder input to correct the way, without breaking in the same time  Rudder OR brakes

 

3) keep 20 % throttle power  as you brake until full stop will help to keep straight ( enough wind on rudder )

4) done !

 

 

Landing Settings : 

Oil and cowl rad closed (avoid to cowl motor to keep T° ) 

Full rpm 

gear down <300-320km/h 

10° flaps <250km/h 

30° Flaps max to avoid bouncing on touch 

final leg approach 200-210 kph

Touchdown 3-Point @170 km/h or a bit highter : flare and nose up, lick snow before runway to 

down speed with nose up

( gently push backward the stick but enough to have 3 point attitude, 

easier to begin at (5-8m) 

take care not flaring aircraft at a to high altitude. you must be in the 

right position at 1m ( Keep in mind the Right 3 point attitude you have before take of)

Runway with trees and large pov view, is helpfull to see right altitude. 

After touch down maintain 800-1000 rpm to have enough wind on Rudder 

push stick fully backward 

never use breaks and rudders. Use breaks OR fast little rudder input to 

correct Straight and avoid ground loops.("pirouette") 

Cut the motor with max lean mixture settings. 

 

Edited November 8, 2014 by snowsnipersnow_sniper

[[JGF]Caponi]

oh ... many thx for this detailed description

 

and yes ... i made something wrong ... i will try your way

 

the device/input settings are the same for me ... i found this post before.

[=38=Tatarenko]

I had the same problem then tested my rudder pedals. They were spiking terribly.

[1./KG4_Blackwolf]

ok so I'm kind of right on..I'm 15% flaps ,0 rpm or throttle until wheels down then 15 to 20% for roll out.

 

 

Touchdown 3-Point @170 km/h or a bit highter : flare and nose up, lick snow before runway to  down speed with nose up

 

I got to lick what?

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

 I hope not the yellow snow..

[FlatSpinMan]

Nice.

[-NW-ChiefRedCloud]

Thanks Snow .... this is immensely helpful.

 

Chief