Ju-87 airbrakes use for (emergency) landing - okay?

[indiaciki]

I had a motor damage on the Stuka in vicinity of airfield. I could land (too high, too long - at the end of the strip and stopped well outside). As my approach was at about 200 km/h with full flaps - Would it have been correct to employ the airbrakes to slow down on final? I would have landed proprerly. I couldn't find anything about using the airbrakes except for dive bombing in the  Ju 87 B-2 manual. I know it would have worked. 

[Gambit21]

Whatever works - you're not operating under any rules on the matter.

That said going to fine pitch helps.

[Yakdriver]

i do not understand the question...
you landed as safe as you could. you think the would have shot you for that?
this is the eastern front, winter 1942.
live to fight another day.

[HansHansen]

Screwing around and not having to mind rules and procedures of the real world is what simulators are made for, who cares about some manuals? If you want to do it, then do it.

You will neither die nor will anyone else discipline you (at least in SP).

[indiaciki]

I'll use the airbrakes next time....

 

Whatever works - you're not operating under any rules on the matter.

That said going to fine pitch helps.

 

That very much sounds like my father whenever I ask him something about flying

Edited November 1, 2014 by indiaciki

[AndyJWest]

I'm not sure about the Stuka, but I have a suspicion that the Pe-2 is easier to land with airbrakes down - it allows you to keep more power on, and (I think) gives more elevator authority due to the increased slipstream. 

[Requiem]

What's the better option if you're coming in too fast with an engine out?

 

a) Don't use the airbrakes and end up rolling off the end of the runway, or float over it completely, resulting in damage.

b) Use them to help you shorten your approach.

 

If you misjudge when to deploy them you could fall short of the runway though, so I would throw them out once I know I'll reach the runway or even after touching down if the braking distance is really short.

[Y-29.Silky]

I'm not sure about the Stuka, but I have a suspicion that the Pe-2 is easier to land with airbrakes down - it allows you to keep more power on, and (I think) gives more elevator authority due to the increased slipstream. 

For the Pe-2, I'd only recommend it in emergency situations where you're coming in too fast, and only keep up down for a couple seconds. There's been a couple times where I left it down, and all of a sudden I nose dive into the ground

[Willy__]

About the stuka dive brakes: I start my dive bombing as usual, but I like to take 1x500 and 2x250, so I want to drop just the 500kg bomb on the dive, and use the other 250's on low level run. But what happen is this: I dive, drop the 500kg bomb, then pull out of the dive and retract the dive brakes, but when I retract them the other two bombs get released.... anyone having this issue ?

 

edit: nevermind, i opened the game again, and messed up with the control settings and now its working as intended (only droping bombs when I press the "drop bomb" button), guess it was a minor conflict with the assigned buttons.

Edited November 1, 2014 by istruba

[indiaciki]

The stuka's airbrakes are simply great.

[Finkeren]

Whatever gets you safely on the ground. Just remember, that the only thing the dive brakes do is create parasitic drag, which decreases dramatically at lower air speeds. They're great for preventing overspeeding in a dive, not so great for reducing speed for landing and practically useless for slowing the plane to a halt after touchdown.

If it works for you, that's great, but I would rely more on flaps to reduce landing speed and reduce angle of decend.

[6./ZG26_5tuka]

Just 2 things to remember when using airbrakes:

 

1. Once deployed put your nose down to the touch down point. Don't stay horizontally waiting for your speed to drop down, hold it instead by changing our attitude.

2. Retract dive brakes at leats 50m above the ground and level out carefully. You'll notice the inertia of the Stuka is so great it would simply drop throught the floor otherwise.

 

Also dive brakes can be combined with a side slip approach (if damage allows you to do safely). As with brakes the side slip has to be exited at a safe alt to ensure you can level out safely.

[GP*]

I had a motor damage on the Stuka in vicinity of airfield. I could land (too high, too long - at the end of the strip and stopped well outside). As my approach was at about 200 km/h with full flaps - Would it have been correct to employ the airbrakes to slow down on final? I would have landed proprerly. I couldn't find anything about using the airbrakes except for dive bombing in the Ju 87 B-2 manual. I know it would have worked.

Like others said...

 

You're the pilot in command.

 

You're the dude, man!

[69th_chuter]

If I recall correctly, the dive brake also re-trimmed the plane to a nose down position neutral at typical dive speed (375 mph ?) which would mean a very heavy nose at slower (approach) speeds.  BUT, I don't think the game models this auto-trim which is what is neutralized to induce the automatic pull-out. 

 

Bear in mind I am no Stuka expert.