Do the Devs "spy" on us?

[JG4_Sputnik]

I wonder if the devs are able to see how long and on which difficulty we fly. Or what kind of data they gather about us pilots using Battle of Stalingrad since everything happens online.

 

I just wonder what kind of info flows back to the devs. Because if they collect all the data from us, then they could see how many of us are "hardcore" and how many are more "casual" simer.

The crux though is that if everybody now grinds through the campaign, the data says that nobody flies full real and therefore there is no need to make the game even more hardcore. Which would be really bad.

 

And by the way, could it be that this is the reason we have so few choices in graphical settings and in the campaign at the moment, so that the data output is more easy to gather and to use for future development?

 

I don't mind if my data is being collected to make a better game, I just would like to know what are they able to "see".

Because if they do a sequel they will be doing it on hard facts, so it will become hard to argue against that.

What do you think? 

 

[carts]

Well,when I saw the title,I immediately thought "Oh oh,a conspiracy theory"but I think you may have a point,I'm sure they are collecting and collating information,like you I'm not bothered if it's to improve the game experience.Be interesting to see a response from the devs.

[BladeMeister]

I wonder if the devs are able to see how long and on which difficulty we fly. Or what kind of data they gather about us pilots using Battle of Stalingrad since everything happens online.

 

I just wonder what kind of info flows back to the devs. Because if they collect all the data from us, then they could see how many of us are "hardcore" and how many are more "casual" simer.

The crux though is that if everybody now grinds through the campaign, the data says that nobody flies full real and therefore there is no need to make the game even more hardcore. Which would be really bad.

 

And by the way, could it be that this is the reason we have so few choices in graphical settings and in the campaign at the moment, so that the data output is more easy to gather and to use for future development?

 

I don't mind if my data is being collected to make a better game, I just would like to know what are they able to "see".

Because if they do a sequel they will be doing it on hard facts, so it will become hard to argue against that.

What do you think? 

 

The only hard facts this would give them is that the customer is using the game within the parameters that the Devs have set. What I mean is, first off it would tell SP or MP percentages, but this is skewed because some MP only customers will have to play SP Campaign if they want unlocks. Secondly it would show graphics settings by preset only, ( non customized non optimized by individual rig), thirdly it would tell them total time of BOS use, probably useful to Devs, maybe the ping you are at and any CTD, this could be useful, of course all of your in game data, kills, flight time, team kills, hit ratio...etc. I am just not seeing where much hard facts would be extracted because some of the presets skew actual user product use in certain ways, especially the MP vs SP info. It definitely would tell you how many bought it and who is using BOS(total product use time).  Hmmm  this is an interesting question, thanks to the OP for posting.

 

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Edited October 26, 2014 by BladeMeister

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

I wonder if the devs are able to see how long and on which difficulty we fly. Or what kind of data they gather about us pilots using Battle of Stalingrad since everything happens online.

 

I just wonder what kind of info flows back to the devs. Because if they collect all the data from us, then they could see how many of us are "hardcore" and how many are more "casual" simer.

The crux though is that if everybody now grinds through the campaign, the data says that nobody flies full real and therefore there is no need to make the game even more hardcore. Which would be really bad.

 

And by the way, could it be that this is the reason we have so few choices in graphical settings and in the campaign at the moment, so that the data output is more easy to gather and to use for future development?

 

I don't mind if my data is being collected to make a better game, I just would like to know what are they able to "see".

Because if they do a sequel they will be doing it on hard facts, so it will become hard to argue against that.

What do you think? 

 

We connect to a server every time we log in to the Online (what has existed up until a week/two weeks ago) portion of the game.

 

If it isn't done, it is certainly possible.

[sallee]

This would explain why I keep getting spam and ads about online dating.....

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

This would explain why I keep getting spam and ads about online dating.....

 

Wasn't saying that and I'm not wearing a tinfoil hat.

 

From a network auditing standpoint, it's fully possible. You have IPs passing through the gateway of a master server.

 

Is what it is.

[Yakmaster]

I wonder if the devs are able to see how long and on which difficulty we fly. Or what kind of data they gather about us pilots using Battle of Stalingrad since everything happens online.

 

I just wonder what kind of info flows back to the devs. Because if they collect all the data from us, then they could see how many of us are "hardcore" and how many are more "casual" simer.

The crux though is that if everybody now grinds through the campaign, the data says that nobody flies full real and therefore there is no need to make the game even more hardcore. Which would be really bad.

 

And by the way, could it be that this is the reason we have so few choices in graphical settings and in the campaign at the moment, so that the data output is more easy to gather and to use for future development?

 

I don't mind if my data is being collected to make a better game, I just would like to know what are they able to "see".

Because if they do a sequel they will be doing it on hard facts, so it will become hard to argue against that.

What do you think? 

 

I see you took red pill,  

Its beter to realy know how your gamers play the game then belive what they say how they play 

I belive some of desisions they made they based on data they colected from RoF gamers

Edited October 26, 2014 by Yakmaster

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

 I think raaaid nailed it spot on

[=RvE=Windmills]

It would really surprise me if they didn't. Data collection like that is pretty standard nowadays.

[sallee]

hanging around these forums automatic catalogues you as a geek probably single

That was the premise of the joke

[J2_Trupobaw]

This would explain why I keep getting spam and ads about online dating.....

Start flying  FW-190 exclusively in campaign, 5 hours a day. If you see surge of spam and adds about penis enlargement, we'll know your activity is closely monitored and acted on  .

 

 

Edited October 26, 2014 by Trupobaw

[39bn_pavig]

I always figured data collection would be part of the developer equation. That way they can develop and test single player content and performance while keeping the game live and in production (instead of passing out each change for extended quality control.) We already know that there is a system in place with the campaign to dynamically adjust to the skills of the player. It would be mad for them not to use such data acquisition for development feedback. That's the way to do it when you have a small development team and can't hire an army of playtesters like the big studios.

[IRRE_Belmont]

See this ?

NO ?

 

But w8, look closer

 

 

 

ILLOOMINARTY CONFIRMED

Edited October 26, 2014 by SYN_BelmontFR

[1./KG4_Blackwolf]

Well if the NSA can look at my phone I guess a little peek into the gameplay isn't bad  .....  runs to get tinfoil hat.

 

oops I said NSA out loud..great now I'm back on their list! 

Edited October 26, 2014 by Blackwolf

[JG4_Sputnik]

I think the question is not IF they collect data but which they do collect. AND which one they use to improve future development.

So let's say they tell us in december, that they go the more casual way because their data proove, that no one flies hardcore, then we are screwed.

 

What I mean is that pretty soon there could be enough data proof that "we" hardcore simer are such a minority that on an economical base it doesn't make sense anymore to support that kind of customer. I'm not sure if there has been an ww2 sim like this which gives the devs that kind of data base about the people who play it.

 

BoS might prove that the hardcore sim marked isn't big enough to support it further and that it makes more sense to aim on the casual player. OR it might prove exactely the opposite.

Edited October 26, 2014 by JG4_Sputnik

[1./KG4_Blackwolf]

I think the question is not IF they collect data but which they do collect. AND which one they use to improve future development.

So let's say they tell us in december, that they go the more casual way because their data proove, that no one flies hardcore, then we are screwed.

 

What I mean is that pretty soon there could be enough data proof that "we" hardcore simer are such a minority that on an economical base it doesn't make sense anymore to support that kind of customer. I'm not sure if there has been an ww2 sim like this which gives the devs that kind of data base about the people who play it.

 

BoS might prove that the hardcore sim marked isn't big enough to support it further and that it makes more sense to aim on the casual player. OR it might prove exactely the opposite.

Good point, I admit I've been flying the unlocks with auto pilot and 2x speed until the fight because I get bored easy..squirrel!  I think I'll go back and use the expert settings with level auto from now on.

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

 

See this ?

NO ?

 

But w8, look closer

 

 

 

ILLOOMINARTY CONFIRMED

 

 

Thank you.

 

I don't think my life would have truly been complete without this.

 

Enlightened...

[sallee]

Start flying  FW-190 exclusively in campaign, 5 hours a day. If you see surge of spam and adds about penis enlargement, we'll know your activity is closely monitored and acted on  .

 

Ha! They wouldn't dare spam me. I've already sued them all be because their products don't work, so now who looks silly?

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

Of course they are collecting data. It'd be foolish not to. They can see usage and all types of game data. That is part of the reason why the servers were limited during early access. So they didn't have to mine data from multiple sources using all types of different graphics, server and input parameters.

 

But you can continue to play in your pj's. No tinfoil hats required.

Edited October 26, 2014 by HerrMurf