Discussion about DCS:WW2 goes here.

[DD_bongodriver]

The last ED/TFC email newsletter had a snippet on the F-18 right at the end, couple of screens of the WIP cockpit (typically detailed)

 

This is what they said:

 

 

DCS: F/A-18C Hornet Update

 

Perhaps the most eagerly awaited DCS module, the Hornet, is indeed in progress... it really does exist! More so than any other of our past and current projects though, the Hornet requires a massive amount of work, not just the creating of the art assets and programming of the cockpit functions, but also a great deal of research, design documentation, building of supersonic aircraft flight dynamics (F-15C with BST and Su-27 have been helping to create this technology), acquiring source data, and creating several new technologies like air-to-surface radar.

 

In addition to the actual aircraft, there are other elements that need to be created such as an improved Nimitz-class aircraft carrier, much better carrier operations, and a new combat theater map tailored to this aircraft.

 

We hear you and realize that many of you are very anxious and looking forward to hearing more about this project. As we get closer to an early beta, we will be discussing this more.

 

 

[GOAT-ACEOFACES]

what ever came of the AH-64 Apache helicopter? I seem to recall a few years back DCS talking about making it? What ever came of that?

[DD_bongodriver]

what ever came of the AH-64 Apache helicopter? I seem to recall a few years back DCS talking about making it? What ever came of that?

 

 

it got put on hold for the A-10C, there are some screens of the model looking typically good, so it is in the pipeline it seems but on the back burner for now.

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=48772

[Finkeren]

I don't want to turn this into a general DCS thread, but I've just bought the P-51 and I'm in the process of downloading DCS world itself.

 

That A-10C is looking mighty tempting at that price. Practically the only moden military aircraft I find appealing, and it's the crown jewel of DCS. Would it be something to buy? I mean: Is there  a lot to do with it in terms of scenarios and campaigns or is it just purely a study model to fly around Nevada?

Edited September 6, 2014 by Finkeren

[fdswer]

Got the FW 190 D-9 man that thing is nice to fly.  Took a bit to get the takeoff and I am still working on the landings.

I don't want to turn this into a general DCS thread, but I've just bought the P-51 and I'm in the process of downloading DCS world itself.

 

That A-10C is looking mighty tempting at that price. Practically the only moden military aircraft I find appealing, and it's the crown jewel of DCS. Would it be something to buy? I mean: Is there  a lot to do with it in terms of scenarios and campaigns or is it just purely a study model to fly around Nevada?

 

There is a campaign, lots of quick missions, and you can download user made missions from the website there is tons to do with that plane.  

[SOLIDKREATE]

I really would like to see these get made either by ED or a third party developer.

 

 

• DCS: AD-6 Skyraider
• DCS: F-8 Crusader
• DCS: CA-12 Boomerang
• DCS: Spitfire Mk.Vc
• DCS: P-40M Warhawk
• DCS: F6F-5
• DCS: Beaufighter Mk.21 DAP
• DCS: A6M5-0-52 Zero
• DCS: Bf-110G-4 Nachtenjager
• DCS: F-100C-25-NA Super Saber

 

 

Just to name a few

Edited September 6, 2014 by KOTP_SPEKTRE76

[DD_bongodriver]

Beaufighter....good choice, really need some Jap love too with a DCS zero

[Guest deleted@1562]

I don't want to turn this into a general DCS thread, but I've just bought the P-51 and I'm in the process of downloading DCS world itself.

 

That A-10C is looking mighty tempting at that price. Practically the only moden military aircraft I find appealing, and it's the crown jewel of DCS. Would it be something to buy? I mean: Is there  a lot to do with it in terms of scenarios and campaigns or is it just purely a study model to fly around Nevada?

 The A-10C has one official combat campaign in Georgia. 2 more combat campaigns no longer supported by ED, but working nonetheless.Heaps of single and training missions. MapleFlag made 3 qualifiying campaigns, and there a tons of user made campaigns and missions.

With ED's stuff alone you're occupied for many months. So yes get the A-10C.

[6./ZG26_5tuka]

I really would like to see these get made either by ED or a third party developer.

• DCS: AD-6 Skyraider

 

Make it happen

[AceRevo]

Would love to see the F4U-4 Corsair but Im afraid it joined the war just a little too late :/ 

[siipperi]

S!

 

 I wonder which model of F/A-18C they are going to model. The original, MLU 1 or MLU 2?

 

I believe those upgrades are done mainly for finland's hornets and USA (and maybe other countries) are using block and software upgrades to define these things. For example EDs a10c is kind of mixture of different types of software upgrades because of classified stuff on that aircraft.

 

I don't want to turn this into a general DCS thread, but I've just bought the P-51 and I'm in the process of downloading DCS world itself.

 

That A-10C is looking mighty tempting at that price. Practically the only moden military aircraft I find appealing, and it's the crown jewel of DCS. Would it be something to buy? I mean: Is there  a lot to do with it in terms of scenarios and campaigns or is it just purely a study model to fly around Nevada?

Get A10c, it's must have for every flightsim lover. Knowing a lot of people wh said they don't love modern sims and after testing and fully learning A10c they have changed their mind and totally fell love with it. Campaigns are ok and tutorials + videomaterials keep you busy for long time.

[Finkeren]

 

Make it happen

 

[Chuck_Owl]

I don't want to turn this into a general DCS thread, but I've just bought the P-51 and I'm in the process of downloading DCS world itself.

 

That A-10C is looking mighty tempting at that price. Practically the only moden military aircraft I find appealing, and it's the crown jewel of DCS. Would it be something to buy? I mean: Is there  a lot to do with it in terms of scenarios and campaigns or is it just purely a study model to fly around Nevada?

 

The A-10C is the "hardest" module to get into. It takes at the very least 4 minutes to get off the ground if you know what you're doing. By hardest, I mean that there are lots of intricate systems that will more often than not make you open up the 600-pages-long manual. I did learn it from A to Z both reading the manual and checking youtube videos. The Single-Player campaign like Georgia Hammer (and there are other free user-made downloadable ones too) are worth your attention and it's something very special to fly this bird into the air and navigate from your TAD and getting target bearings by communicating with the radio with a JTAC. But for me, the multiplayer is where the fun's at. The A-10C is challenging, but it is very, very rewarding when you're able to operate it blindfolded and figure out problems (which are very likely to and WILL happen, trust me) that occur during flight just by using your head. Sometimes, you have what you'd think is a bug like an error message on your MFDs or your TGP camera going haywire, but there is (almost) always a logical explanation that makes you realize how much work was put into this module. I'm not even surprised to see that the military actually uses this module for training: it's just that good. 

 

I highly recommend you give the A-10C a shot. It's, IMHO, the most accomplished ED product so far. The MiG-21bis will come as a close second-place once it releases in october.

[SOLIDKREATE]

The A-10C is the "hardest" module to get into. It takes at the very least 4 minutes to get off the ground if you know what you're doing. By hardest, I mean that there are lots of intricate systems that will more often than not make you open up the 600-pages-long manual. I did learn it from A to Z both reading the manual and checking youtube videos. The Single-Player campaign like Georgia Hammer (and there are other free user-made downloadable ones too) are worth your attention and it's something very special to fly this bird into the air and navigate from your TAD and getting target bearings by communicating with the radio with a JTAC. But for me, the multiplayer is where the fun's at. The A-10C is challenging, but it is very, very rewarding when you're able to operate it blindfolded and figure out problems (which are very likely to and WILL happen, trust me) that occur during flight just by using your head. Sometimes, you have what you'd think is a bug like an error message on your MFDs or your TGP camera going haywire, but there is (almost) always a logical explanation that makes you realize how much work was put into this module. I'm not even surprised to see that the military actually uses this module for training: it's just that good. 

 

I highly recommend you give the A-10C a shot. It's, IMHO, the most accomplished ED product so far. The MiG-21bis will come as a close second-place once it releases in october.

 

 

 

^  ---- All of what he just said. I can only start the plane now and taxi. I can fly it just fine. The weapons systems are what give e the heartache. Sometimes the little yellow toggles don't set off the game trigger or I can't reset the targeting camera. I sure wish I could drop a JDAM on a tank. maybe after a few more weeks =o)

[fdswer]

^  ---- All of what he just said. I can only start the plane now and taxi. I can fly it just fine. The weapons systems are what give e the heartache. Sometimes the little yellow toggles don't set off the game trigger or I can't reset the targeting camera. I sure wish I could drop a JDAM on a tank. maybe after a few more weeks =o)

 

Just learn one weapon at a time, the GBU-12s are the easiest bomb I found and you can set the laser to turn on automatically on release.    

[kestrel79]

I love DCS planes, but still have yet to put in the time to learn a plane or the engine itself to do more than just take off and land. That's fine however, since doing both is very rewarding in the training missions with all aircraft.

 

When I do fly online, I usually just load only the simplest of weapons (just guns and rockets) to avoid all the complex weapon systems. It's pretty fun. Someday I'll try to learn all the fun stuff.

[GOAT-ACEOFACES]

Well I took advantage of the sale over the weekend and bought all the ones I was missing.. even the Combat Arms one that I have no idea how to make use of! Support the Sims!

[Chuck_Owl]

[AndyJWest]

Just a heads up - they've dropped some prices a bit more, until the sale ends. Black Shark 2 is now $ 11.99 for example - you need to check the price on the 'buy now' page though, they've not updated the rest of the website.

[9./JG27golani79]

Got the Dora for 39.99$ and now it´s 14.99$ .. yaaay ...

Damn it .. but still, it´s worth it´s money!

[kestrel79]

How can the Sabre be "out of stock." Isn't it a digital download? I want it for 15 bucks! Dora for 15 sounds tasty.

[DD_bongodriver]

Because they allocate a limited amount of keys to the flash sales so they don't loose out completely to the cheapskates.

[kestrel79]

Well as a cheapskate I don't like that But I get it.

[Schmittfeuer]

Well I just got a whole load of these planes for their reduced price (Dora, Sabre, Black Shark 2, Kurfürst), yet now instead of playing DCS I'm playing all the IL2 games instead.

 

What the heck is wrong with me?

[Matt]

Funny how it took a huge heated discussion to offer the Dora as the lowest backer award and one month after release they're pushing out Doras for $15 already.

[Schmittfeuer]

Funny how it took a huge heated discussion to offer the Dora as the lowest backer award and one month after release they're pushing out Doras for $15 already.

 

What else was available for the low tier anyhow?

 

To be honest though in its current state, at least comming from someone who predominantely plays single player I wouldn't pay more for it. It's a fun plane but there's little to no missions, same goes for the Sabre.

 

Bit of a shame, really.

[DD_bongodriver]

It has a full mission builder, it is developing new maps/aircraft, this is like complaining about a game that's only 70% developed.

[DD_Crash]

Who would do a thing like that

[Schmittfeuer]

It has a full mission builder, it is developing new maps/aircraft, this is like complaining about a game that's only 70% developed.

 

Don't get me wrong I like it, I was just saying that it would've been nice to be given a couple more missions out of the box, as I'm a very lazy person that doesn't spend a whole lot of time in the FMB. That and a way to separate the MG trigger from the cannon trigger.

[Static]

Got the Dora for 39.99$ and now it´s 14.99$ .. yaaay ...

Damn it .. but still, it´s worth it´s money!

I paid 49.99 and the next day it went to 39.99 and now 14.99. Next time I will wait a few months after they release their aircraft before I purchase anymore.

[6./ZG26_5tuka]

Got it for 15$ yesterday Definetly no bad deal, though with no proper MP I unfortunately see less use for it. AI fights alone won't keep me interested for long.

 

Hopefully DCS 2.0 is going to change that. At the current state I don't think I might consider preordering the K4, although it's one of my favourites...

Edited September 14, 2014 by [Jg26]5tuka

[=AH=_Sid_]

Funny how it took a huge heated discussion to offer the Dora as the lowest backer award and one month after release they're pushing out Doras for $15 already.

You had to be lucky (right time, right place) to get these for such a low price, the Dora's back up to its original sale price of $39.99 and it looks like it will return to the pre-sale price of $49.99 tomorrow. The Sabre didn't even last for the full twelve hours at $15 and sold all the copies they were prepared to let go at such a low price.

 

Congratulation to all those that managed to grab what they need.

 

I would agree with Finkeren that the greatest source of inspiration in a flight sim (for me) is in the atmosphere and the degree to which the simulation can immerse me in the locations, history and personalities of the period.  I think of all the titles under professional development, BoS has the best chance of delivering this.  I don't think I will get much satisfaction from dodging SAM's in an Me-262 over Nevada

Yes I agree it does feel very strange flying these older birds around the current map, I'm thinking of it terms of a modern day museum (Fantasy of Flight style) where I can take some vintage Warbirds up for a spin.

 

I'm loving the complexity of the systems modelling and FM though and having some great fun trying to learn to fly these aircraft.

 

What's really got me excited about DCS though, is the fact they have opened it up to third party development. I think there's currently six companies developing paid add-ons (not sure if there are any amateur mod groups working on maps/content yet), but this has the potential to become similar to FltSimX, where Eagle Dynamics control and develop the core sim and other companies specialise in the add-on content and aircraft from whatever era they chose. Hopefully we'll see the list of those involved grow with time, you never know maybe one day we'll see 1C-777 offering study sim versions of their aircraft available to fly in DCS.

[Dakpilot]

As a backer to the kickstarter program I feel rather cheated.. I was waiting for the WWII map before claiming my "free " aircraft...now I see that I could have simply waited and bought more aircraft during their sales for  what  I "spent " as an early investor.

 

It goes against all they said the value of what your rewards were worth.

 

DCS WWII is dead..it was good that they continued to make the add on modules but as an entity DCSWWII has died.

 

What went on recently with the L-39 release is not going to make things more attractive to third party Devs either

 

I had high hopes but things are not looking very positive

 

Cheers Dakpilot

[Chuck_Owl]

I'm a backer too, and I don't feel cheated at all, Dakpilot. 

 

These sales are sporadic. Do you hear people whining on Steam that the game they paid 60 bucks 4 months earlier has now come to 70 % off in a summer sale? No. Same goes for DCS.

 

DCS WWII is anything BUT dead, my friend.

Edited September 15, 2014 by 71st_AH_Chuck

[BMA_West]

Dropped 60 USD on KickStarter for its WW2 and chose the Dora for that with 2 to go while I already had the P51 in a previous sale for 15 USD.

Last weekend I bought the Sabre for 39.99USD while preordering their MiG-2 for 44.99USD

I certainly do not feel cheated, on the contrary.

Those KS goals were to wild anyway. Just for a nickel one ended up with the 3 free models while one still keeps one of those, go figure.

 

When one drops some coin for a round in the pub, does one feel cheated on the return leg from the lou?

And here you may still fire up DCS for an other go, again & again LOL

Edited September 15, 2014 by West

[AceRevo]

As a backer to the kickstarter program I feel rather cheated.. I was waiting for the WWII map before claiming my "free " aircraft...now I see that I could have simply waited and bought more aircraft during their sales for  what  I "spent " as an early investor.

 

It goes against all they said the value of what your rewards were worth.

 

DCS WWII is dead..it was good that they continued to make the add on modules but as an entity DCSWWII has died.

 

What went on recently with the L-39 release is not going to make things more attractive to third party Devs either

 

I had high hopes but things are not looking very positive

 

Cheers Dakpilot

 

 

I'm a backer too, and I don't feel cheated at all, Dakpilot. 

 

These sales are sporadic. Do you hear people whining on Steam that the game they paid 60 bucks 4 months earlier has now come to 70 % off in a summer sale? No. Same goes for DCS.

 

DCS WWII is anything BUT dead, my friend.

 

 

Think of it like this.. If it werent for you backers, there wouldnt be a WW2 project going on at DCS now, would it? So, thank you! I would support too if Ive came across the kickstarter within time, but back then I didnt even know what DCS was.. 

[kestrel79]

_{Fired up the su-25T over the weekend. First training mission was great. Just taxing and watching the other AI aircraft is fun. Love their tutorial missions they are the best in sims at the moment.}

Edited September 15, 2014 by kestrel79

[DD_bongodriver]

Yep, without any suggestion of BOS lacking in any particular way, it is still safe to say DCS is the best simulation package on the market by far, they just need to bring it together as an entertainment package which is what is happening right now with the accelerated development of new maps and aircraft, it will take time but it is driving down that road with a good pace.

[Matt]

These sales are sporadic. Do you hear people whining on Steam that the game they paid 60 bucks 4 months earlier has now come to 70 % off in a summer sale? No. Same goes for DCS.

Not sure if it's really worth discussing this, but this is a bit of a different situation. First of all, it's a huge discount after barely 6 weeks and the developement got financed by a kickstarter program to some degree (at least the developers got that money) and the kickstarter awards got cut massively for financial reasons and like i wrote before, they only decided to even offer a free plane of choice after some debate because of that too.

 

It was totally unnecessary to push the Dora out this cheaply and this soon after release, if they were so worried about finances two months ago. And it might backfire in the end, i'm sure many people are less likely to pay full price now, even though the modules are worth the full price. Especially if people buy these keys in bundles and then sell them after the special sale.

[Guest deleted@1562]

As a backer I'm entitled to 2 planes and the map. And I will select my rewards as soon as the map is out and not before. I did enjoy flying the P-51D over Georgia, but I don't need a second helping of that type of gameplay - so I will buy the Warbirds only at sales. I'm pretty sure that I'll get the Dora, the Kurfürst and the Spit for 15 USD each, before the map is released.