Zuti Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 Creator Ilya Shevchenko about 10 hours ago Hey guys, Quick update. Just to get some of you a bit more excited. We finally have a decision on the EDGE SDK. It's a YES! I'm doing a quick video about it and recording some footage from inside EDGE. Should be a quick video to make, look for it later tonight. Hopefully we can organize a community effort to create more landscapes for DCS WWII. This can mean a community-created Southern England, or Ardennes, or Market Garden, or Ruhr, there are tons of options and I really look forward to a discussion on this topic! If they put up the damn paypal this will the the deciding factor to give them my money. Even it it never goes further then first release, SDK will make it alive, true.
ST_ami7b5 Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 If they put up the damn paypal this will the the deciding factor to give them my money. Even it it never goes further then first release, SDK will make it alive, true. I have used the same visa debit card I use for PayPal with no prob...
Feathered_IV Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 Well look at us... all saying our piece and taking it in turns, without goading each other to anger and frustrated retorts.
SYN_Jedders Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 Well look at us... all saying our piece and taking it in turns, without goading each other to anger and frustrated retorts. Its weird...Im not sure i like it :/ Mind you, some bans will run out soon
Feathered_IV Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 Mind you, some bans will run out soon I know. Must make the most of this Shangri-La while we can.
ST_ami7b5 Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 So I went for FW-190D as I have the Mustang already.
LLv44_Mprhead Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 Looks like kickstarter has gathered some momentum again. I fear it's too little too late to get that 262, but it's something at least. And who knows, one can always hope for the best.
ATAG_Slipstream Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 I'm doubtful it will reach 150, I assume it could go either way, either a flurry of last minute pledges or people moving to a lower level.
Tektolnes Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 Yeah don't see the $150k happening either. I'm not fussed - once the base goal is met and it gets made then I'm happy. Going to be great fun flying those 5 birds around.
=BKHZ=Furbs Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) Does anyone know what other AI aircraft are going to be in the released sim? Any bombers/transports/AI fighters to shoot down? Ive checked the KS, i just wondered if i missed something. Edited October 1, 2013 by =BKHZ=Furbs
LLv44_Mprhead Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 With 28k to go and only little over 3 days left, it doesn't look like it's going to go to that 150k. Still, I'll be happy to have an option to fly those 5 planes. Things are looking good for WWII flight simmers
royraiden Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 Does anyone know what other AI aircraft are going to be in the released sim? Any bombers/transports/AI fighters to shoot down? Ive checked the KS, i just wondered if i missed something. The only ai planes scheduled for release so far were the B-17 and ME262,
Mogster Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 Yes it appears the available planes will be the Spit 9, Me109K, P47, P51, FW190D, and AI B17 and 262. I'm assuming the flyables will have AI versions, seems reasonable. Its a big enough planeset to set up viable missions. ROF shipped with 4 flyable planes and 2 AI irc and I still had fun with it.
nirvi Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) Update #10 - EDGE Map SDK http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/508681281/dcs-wwii-europe-1944/posts/615365 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCauXtM1Gjk&hd=1 Edited October 1, 2013 by nirvi 1
=BKHZ=Furbs Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 The plane set is fine, i just wondered if i missed anything.
=BKHZ=Furbs Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) That edge update looked pretty good. Now if we saw this update and the SDK news at the start of the KS... Edited October 1, 2013 by =BKHZ=Furbs 1
royraiden Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 That edge update looked pretty good. Now if we saw this update and the SDK news at the start of the KS... Indeed!Anyways the possibility of having the content of the stretch goals wont be gone after the Kickstarter he is already considering opening some kind of crowd funding after the alpha stage has been reached and there is enough quality content to show.I believe thats a great idea and means he learned from the mistakes made.
Revvin Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 The SDK is fantastic news, its going to be interesting to see what the community can do
Skoshi_Tiger Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) If they put up the damn paypal this will the the deciding factor to give them my money. Even it it never goes further then first release, SDK will make it alive, true. Zuti, It not RPG's decision to make, from what I've read it's a PayPal policy that they don't allow kick starter. A few weeks ago some one posted a Slashdot article http://slashdot.org/topic/bi/how-kickstarter-upended-the-gaming-industry/ In it they said "In another case, PayPal had to scramble for a fix after freezing funding for a few crowdfunding campaigns." Put yourself into PayPals position. Their refund guarantee is only valid for about a month after payment. Imagine the mucky stuff hitting the fan if the project fails a year after the payment? Customers would really get angry. Cheers! Good new video on the SDK by the way! Edited October 1, 2013 by Skoshi_Tiger
Bearcat Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 I nearly withdrew my support, until I realized something. There's something very dear about Luthier's passion. This is a hero's journey. He's been right there at the top, at young age, has taken a deep fall, is trying to get on his feet again. The clumsy campaign is evidence of this struggle. It's easy to see what could have been done better. Obvious to everyone who watched. Not so easy to see the inner fight. The doubts. The fear. This kickstarter is his katharsis. From great pain great strength can be born. Here's to the crazy ones... MAC Yeah that got me too.. that and hell CoD was a mess.. but I am having fun with PF still.. Every time I boot up a PTO mission... that's PF ... He kinda looks like a loveable geek right.. You can't help but admire the passion and as a guy who watched Sky King religiously (and Sea Hunt of course..) and went eh whole model route from plastic to balsa WWI & WWII.. I sense a kindred spirit in there so for me it's a no brainer. I can't hold CoD against him and the fact that TF is able to do what they are doing without the code says a lot too. Well look at us... all saying our piece and taking it in turns, without goading each other to anger and frustrated retorts. Yeah .. it was nice.. and then some guy named Feathered had to come in and screw that all up trying to be on the DL and all but errr uhhhh Duuhhh
LLv44_Mprhead Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 I strongly believe that all game developers should look like Jessica Alba.
Bearcat Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 'He kinda looks like a loveable geek right'.. Yep. And all game developers ought to look like Vin Diesel, Jean Claude Van Damme or (God Forbid), Arny.. It's the law. Or haven't you heard about that one yet? I don't care if he's a thalidomide midget without any capability of speech. I'm also convinced that Stephen Hawking would agree. That's not what I meant at all.. Why go there?
Feathered_IV Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 Yeah .. it was nice.. and then some guy named Feathered had to come in and screw that all up trying to be on the DL and all but errr uhhhh Duuhhh Teehee. Love you too BC!
LLv44_Mprhead Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 I wonder why it's so hard to give people the benefit of doubt? How I read that loveable geek part was:"He looks like someone who is really excited and passionate and honest about what he is doing now." As opposed to "he is (looks like someone) who already screwd your money once and now is trying to do it again with this shady kickstarter scheme." When you are reading a post, most of the time you have an option to consider it a) written with good intention, even if it doesn't sound like that to you b) assume the worst, or at least something negative. Before getting offended it would be really good if people could just try to think about the option a) as a possibility.
Bearcat Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 What did you mean then? Why say that he 'looks like a loveable geek'? What difference does it make? You are taking this way to seriously... He looks like a loveable geek.. some of my best friends are geeks.. hell I was a geek .. then I turned into a stud.. then the next thing I knew I was pushing 60 and I was an old geek.. and a flight sim geek at that ... so... just what in Sam hill are you talking about? Go have a beer or something.. take your prozac.. go look at some porn whatever but unloosen your shorts there pilgrim... cause this ain't that kinda party.
FlatSpinMan Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 I think you're missing the point, Dutch. BC saying he looked like a lovable geek is part of the idea that Luthier's just a normal, geeky guy who really wants to make a cfs. That was supposed to be a positive, empathetic comment.
Feathered_IV Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 That's how I read it too. Although I think the Jessica Alba proposal certainly deserves consideration.
TheBlackPenguin Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 The last 48 hours or so is usually the part where a Kickstarter gets a second boost, and many usually resemble the first few days, so its not out of contention to get the 262 yet. One thing we don't have, unlike other games, is a celebrity like figure such as Totalbiscuit to promote the project, or even Chris Roberts, so its still not known how high it'll reach, so I am not 100% sure it will reach it. I think the biggest mistake they made when starting this Kickstarter was the assumption it would blow right past the initial funding goal and head into the stretch goal territory early on, without that assumption its probable more videos would have been made and perhaps the tiers would have been laid out differently, oh well it is what it is and at least its gone past the initial funding goal by a fair amount.
HagarTheHorrible Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 What happens to the extra money ? Let's say, for arguments sake, that they get $145,000. $45,000 more than the base but not enough to fund the next stretch goal. What do they do with the extra money ?
Feathered_IV Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 Maybe put it towards all those spiral bound books they need to author and publish? Not too sure. It might be tricky to weed out who owes what with the current reward system.
Stig Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 What happens to the extra money ? Let's say, for arguments sake, that they get $145,000. $45,000 more than the base but not enough to fund the next stretch goal. What do they do with the extra money ? They would have some extra cash that's not earmarked, which they can put towards creating eg. a new plane model that they can sell. They would then not need to sell as many of these planes to break even, and so earning a profit that once again can go to another plane.
Zak Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 What happens to the extra money ? Let's say, for arguments sake, that they get $145,000. $45,000 more than the base but not enough to fund the next stretch goal. What do they do with the extra money ? They need all the money they can get since 100k is not even close to what a project of the declared scale requires
=BKHZ=Furbs Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 The bulk of funding has come from ED, if im correct.
LLv44_Mprhead Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 The bulk of funding has come from ED, if im correct. This is my understanding also. I understood from the updates, that it was AFTER 100k was reached and they moved on to stretch goals that they needed to provide the whole funding. Thus -> me-262 as first stretch goal, because it was the cheapest to make, needing only cockpit to be modelled.
royraiden Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 The bulk of funding has come from ED, if im correct. Yep you are correct.Kickstarter funding is just a small portion of the whole funding.
royraiden Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 Paypal is now working http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.co...ker_paypal.php 1
LLv44_Mprhead Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/products/WWII/backer_paypal.php I don't know why, but at least for me link you posted was not working Roy. That's why the double.
LLv44_Mprhead Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 Btw, is it so that amount paid via Paypal doesn't show automatically in kickstarter total, but is added there manually at some points? So it's not possible to know the exact amount of pledged funds before kickstarter ends? Is this correct? At the moment it seems that it might not reach that stretch goal, but it's going to be rather close.
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