StG2_zulu354 Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 So guys, the game is released and still in the same good shape, as it was in EA. But it's time to think about MP statistics. As I remember right, there was a talk about world wide statistics. So does the flights counts for any listed server (of course not such, wich disabled the global statistics)? Where will I find it. Can I find it already at some place. How about the acutal existing DServers? Would be great to know and hopefully, it cones soon. It's important for squadrons - at least for us Immelmänner. :D
7./Sch.G.2_Stublerone Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 Hopefully no statistics at all. Perhaps for personal view, but not rankings like in casual games please. This only bring kids into play talking about their k/d ratio or what. Sorry, but that is actually a flight sim. So I guess, not much are interested in such things in the community. I personally dont need and dont want it, as it makes no sense to give statistics in a game, that has a depth of a sim. Too much other things play a role and they will never accurately be taken into consideration. So, in most games, statistics say nothing and is uninteresting as well. If we would have real campaigns to fly like an SEOW, we would like to see performance and development on the map during such a campaign. But making a general dogfight ranking crap is totally off! 2
GrieverGriever_XIV Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 I would like to know my own statistics, but I agree with the post above, I dont want online ranks or k/d ratio.
39bn_pavig Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 Statistics can be useful for the community. When I see someone with awesome stats I then know "that person has nothing better to do with their life." But seriously, seeing stats can help players recognise others at a similar level and help produce comradery.
[KWN]T-oddball Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 Hopefully no statistics at all. Perhaps for personal view, but not rankings like in casual games please. This only bring kids into play talking about their k/d ratio or what. Sorry, but that is actually a flight sim. So I guess, not much are interested in such things in the community. I personally dont need and dont want it, as it makes no sense to give statistics in a game, that has a depth of a sim. Too much other things play a role and they will never accurately be taken into consideration. So, in most games, statistics say nothing and is uninteresting as well. If we would have real campaigns to fly like an SEOW, we would like to see performance and development on the map during such a campaign. But making a general dogfight ranking crap is totally off! ^^^this, statserbating and score-whoring will become rampant. 3
SharpeXB Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 I like seeing stats and flight records. Without it a game feels empty.
wellenbrecher Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 The way Zak's statement in another thread sounded, only the servers put up by 777 - i.e. all the boring air-quake ones - count as "ranked" server and as such would also be the only servers that would add to your global stats. Reasoning behind it the lack of control in third party servers. Coincidentally also the reason why they don't want to allow earning progress towards the blasted unlock system in MP.
SharpeXB Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 The way Zak's statement in another thread sounded, only the servers put up by 777 - i.e. all the boring air-quake ones - count as "ranked" server and as such would also be the only servers that would add to your global stats. Reasoning behind it the lack of control in third party servers. Coincidentally also the reason why they don't want to allow earning progress towards the blasted unlock system in MP. Rise of Flight has global stats on many servers. I'm sure BoS will be the same.
StG2_zulu354 Posted October 24, 2014 Author Posted October 24, 2014 Don't kniw anything bad on statistics... Count of sorties, landed missions and destroyed vehicles and aircrafts. ATAG and 1946 did the same. Would be good feature as global, but also good just for a special DServer. If you can choose as Admin of the server, it'll be fine, too.
wellenbrecher Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) Rise of Flight has global stats on many servers. I'm sure BoS will be the same. I know. I am sure Zak knows as well. But if they do that they also have no reason not to use those servers cleared for stats for MP progress towards the silly unlocks, after all they apparently do have control. Which he said is impossible. It's funny, I just like to pick on silly, contradictory statements like that. I hate being lied to or treated like a little kid by people that took a nice chunk of my money, 's all. Edited October 24, 2014 by [JG2]G3_wellenbrecher
=LD=Hethwill Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 Hopefully no statistics at all. Perhaps for personal view, but not rankings like in casual games please. This only bring kids into play talking about their k/d ratio or what. Sorry, but that is actually a flight sim. So I guess, not much are interested in such things in the community. I personally dont need and dont want it, as it makes no sense to give statistics in a game, that has a depth of a sim. Too much other things play a role and they will never accurately be taken into consideration. So, in most games, statistics say nothing and is uninteresting as well. If we would have real campaigns to fly like an SEOW, we would like to see performance and development on the map during such a campaign. But making a general dogfight ranking crap is totally off! Yep.
siipperi Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 Those ww2 aces were such kiddos when they were counting their kills. 3
=LD=Hethwill Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) Those ww2 aces were such kiddos when they were counting their kills. Those kills stopped being counted when they... passed away. Do you wish to reset your counter when your pilot is deceased ? Only stats that would be viable in this case is the current kills streak and in that case, yes, it is fair. Edited October 24, 2014 by =LD=Hethwill_Khan 3
Y-29.Silky Posted October 25, 2014 Posted October 25, 2014 Hopefully no statistics at all. Perhaps for personal view, but not rankings like in casual games please. This only bring kids into play talking about their k/d ratio or what. Sorry, but that is actually a flight sim. Couldn't have said it better myself. And what would happen to the poor folk that filled roles such as resupplying airfields in the Eagles Nest? People will automatically think they're a bad pilot because they don't go whoring their stats to look good.
FZG_Merlin Posted October 25, 2014 Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) Do you wish to reset your counter when your pilot is deceased ? yes, thats exactly what I want. Edited October 25, 2014 by FZG_Immel
Y-29.Silky Posted October 25, 2014 Posted October 25, 2014 yes, thats exactly what I want. Actually, that is one thing I would absolutely love.
LLv34_Flanker Posted October 25, 2014 Posted October 25, 2014 S! Do as Mechwarrior Online does, for example. Your stats are only visible to yourself and your "ranking" determining matchmaker "value" is known only by the devs. Stats cause nothing but trouble and bad behaviour. 1
FZG_Merlin Posted October 25, 2014 Posted October 25, 2014 S! Do as Mechwarrior Online does, for example. Your stats are only visible to yourself and your "ranking" determining matchmaker "value" is known only by the devs. Stats cause nothing but trouble and bad behaviour. I disagree... Your living pilots stats are awesome. When I was flying a VEF mission and I knew that I was flying a mission against FB ViKs and FB Storm, and that we all had 50+ missions streak logged in, it took a whole other dimension ! You just don't play the same when you care about your 'virtual' life. I don't care what your kill ratio is.. But when I see that you have flown tens of sorties (if no hundred) without dying while scoring kills, I know who I am flying with/against
[KWN]T-oddball Posted October 25, 2014 Posted October 25, 2014 S! Do as Mechwarrior Online does, for example. Your stats are only visible to yourself and your "ranking" determining matchmaker "value" is known only by the devs. Stats cause nothing but trouble and bad behavior.
[KWN]T-oddball Posted October 25, 2014 Posted October 25, 2014 who remembers il2 server commander? I use to run this on my server but the stats are local and they give you a mission breakdown http://cieldeguerre.servegame.org/index.php?navigation=map/216/index.html pilot(s) stats http://cieldeguerre.servegame.org/index.php?navigation=pilots/29/index.html and the general stats page http://cieldeguerre.servegame.org/ I think global stats will attract the wrong crowd....
Potenz Posted October 25, 2014 Posted October 25, 2014 the only statistic we should have is kill streak (without die or captured) times shot down (with out die or captured) and ground targets streak same as the one before no die or captured
=AH=_Sid_ Posted October 25, 2014 Posted October 25, 2014 Rise of Flight has global stats on many servers. I'm sure BoS will be the same. Rise of Flight hasn't had global stats for a long time now. "Dear pilots, The Rise of Flight statistics page is currently unavailable. It needs to be fixed before we make it active again. Once the necessary corrections are made, you'll be free to use it. Thanks for understanding." The individual stats some of the ROF servers have, are run by a third party app made by =FB=Vaal ROF Server Stats
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