No community lust for Mig-3 ?

[VeryOldMan]

Hello.  I   am amazed how i have not seen anyone else  comment  that they wanted a Mig-3 in game. I always loved that  bird, is there  a reason its not popular here?

 

 

Would love to see it  , even as a  buy  with  money plane   as soon as possible

[csThor]

Well, the MiG-3 is essentially a 1941 plane. It was phased out in early 1942 because the production capacity for its AM-35 engine were needed for the AM-38 of the Il-2. On top of that the Yak-1 was found to have been more suited to the environment on the front and to be easier to fly. Hence, by the time of Stalingrad, the MiG-3 was already a rare bird.

[leitmotiv]

yes people love it, would be handy for high altitude but dosent fit Stalingrad

[Finkeren]

Same here. Mig-3 is a quite interesting (and amazingly beautiful) aircraft. But Stalingrad is simply not the right setting for it.

 

Let's have Leningrad or the battle of Moscow next, and the Mig-3 will be high on my wish-list.

Edited September 2, 2013 by Finkeren

[6./ZG26_Emil]

Very good looking aircraft, I'd buy it

[VeryOldMan]

I woudl buy uit, then grind  until I could steal an AM-38 from one  of the il2 at my base and make a field  mod  of  pure awesome!

[Zak]

Same here. Mig-3 is a quite interesting (and amazingly beautiful) aircraft. But Stalingrad is simply not the right setting for it.

 

Let's have Leningrad or the battle of Moscow next, and the Mig-3 will be high on my wish-list.

Sounds like a plan!

[Finkeren]

Sounds like a plan!

Is that a promise?

 

I'd love, love, love to be able to fly a Mig-3. Regardless of iits combat performance, it's simply so stunningly beautiful. I think I once read, that after the Mig had been pulled off the production lines, they started tinkering with the left-over airframes and accidentally invented sex. 

Edited September 2, 2013 by Finkeren

[Pupo]

more than the mig3 (wich is a nice plane, but who porly fits the tasks of the russian front), i miss the I16

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ah8PtBnHO8&feature=share&list=PLzWMWffvqYDWzaxArjkyF14HoIoT_ek5m

[6./ZG26_Emil]

more than the mig3 (wich is a nice plane, but who porly fits the tasks of the russian front), i miss the I16

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ah8PtBnHO8&feature=share&list=PLzWMWffvqYDWzaxArjkyF14HoIoT_ek5m

 

As long as it can't hang on it's prop vertically and shoot lazer beams while falling backwards I'm good with that too :D

[1./KG4_Blackwolf]

I love the MIG-3 and it would be my ride of choice in the battle of Moscow.   

[BeastyBaiter]

I must say the MiG-3 is one of the nicest looking planes of WW2. I'd love to have it.

[Original_Uwe]

Agreed. Just a beautiful bird.

Bit, if like to see I16, P40 and P39 first.

[15[Span.]/JG51Costa]

Sounds like a plan!

Plz, plz, plz.

[Volkoff]

Hello.  I   am amazed how i have not seen anyone else  comment  that they wanted a Mig-3 in game. I always loved that  bird, is there  a reason its not popular here?

 

 

Would love to see it  , even as a  buy  with  money plane   as soon as possible

 

As for VVS planes, I would really like to see the Yak-1b, I-153,  I-16, and P-40 as the next VVS planes for the Battle of Stalingrad map. I would like to see the Mig-3 used on another add-on map. I find Zak's words very encouraging.

 

 MJ

Edited September 2, 2013 by =69.GIAP=MIKHA

[VeryOldMan]

Well my personal order of preference would be  P-39 Mig-3 P40 Yak1b ( altough the yak we will get  has the 1b engine... so   maybe  they will skip it)  I never liked the "circus looking planes"  like the I-16

[Heywooood]

I-16 in the circus?....

 

close this book forever and dont open anymore!

 

I-16 is pure fighter from the early days and pure Russia - take the biggest engine you have, build around it the smallest fighter plane, attach as many MG's as will fit on it - and go fly it in battle

 

open cockpit, round engine, hand cranked retractable LG, whats not to love

 

circus my ass

[VeryOldMan]

I-16 in the circus?....

 

close this book forever and dont open anymore!

 

I-16 is pure fighter from the early days and pure Russia - take the biggest engine you have, build around it the smallest fighter plane, attach as many MG's as will fit on it - and go fly it in battle

 

open cockpit, round engine, hand cranked retractable LG, whats not to love

 

circus my ass

 

Circus as it looks (visually) as made to be a circus attraction....

[Heywooood]

you dont find the I-16 dead sexy?!!!

 

what is WRONG with you, very old guy?

 

she is the original brick sh*thouse of a pit wulfie -

 

dammit now my blood is boiling lol - dont diss my girl buddy, she'll kick yer ass

[OBT-Psycho]

damned dude, for someone who claims hating circus jibberish plane, you've got some nice avatar pic! 

 

all those curves and flashy colors... you're sure everything go round up there?

 

BTW both planes would make me happy, but Mig-3 would be sexy

[VeryOldMan]

you dont find the I-16 dead sexy?!!!

 

what is WRONG with you, very old guy?

 

she is the original brick sh*thouse of a pit wulfie -

 

dammit now my blood is boiling lol - dont diss my girl buddy, she'll kick yer ass

 

 

Lets put this way, and in no way I  intend to offend the persons affected by my comparison,  .. some people like woman weighting 300 pounds, some like muscular woman  stronger then themselves, ... nothing wrong with those people .. but I don't. I prefer lean, but with generous curves ones Capable of gettign me to very  high altitudes

[Vig]

Lets put this way, and in no way I  intend to offend the persons affected by my comparison,  .. some people like woman weighting 300 pounds, some like muscular woman  stronger then themselves, ... nothing wrong with those people .. but I don't. I prefer lean, but with generous curves ones Capable of gettign me to very  high altitudes

LOL! I think of aircraft as cars rather than woman, and I do like me a nice plump 1950 Studebaker!

[Volkoff]

you dont find the I-16 dead sexy?!!!

 

 

I think that the I-16 has tremendous appeal, as it is adorable looking and is the decided underdog. The open pit will make it a very nice transition ride for guys and gals used to the open air pits in Rise of Flight, I should think. While I am convinced that the VVS still needs an easy to fly and highly capable dogfghter with a bubble canopy, like the Yak-1b, especially for lone wolf Free Hunter players, I feel just as strongly that the VVS needs a highly agile, yet highly challenging ride for highly experienced flight simmers. I think that the 1-16 fits that role perfectly. If I had it my way, the 1-16 would be a high priority VVS (non-lend lease) IL2 BOS add-on.  

 

 MJ

Edited September 3, 2013 by =69.GIAP=MIKHA

[Heywooood]

couldnt have said it better meself mate

Edited September 3, 2013 by Heywooood

[Zmaj76]

Airwar over the eastern front (Stalingrad as a perfect example) was generally at lower altitudes where MIg3 was anyways inferior to the 109....also the design wasnt "state of art" with its additional oil tank behind engine and AFAIk it could burn easily if got hit in "vulnerable spots"...

Edited September 3, 2013 by Tvrdi

[Vig]

close this book forever and dont open anymore!

ROFL! I had forgotten that classic!!!

[Heywooood]

"where did you read Spitfire made from a wood??" was the first part of the quote...I lol'd for days

 

classic Olegism

[VeryOldMan]

I simply cannot stand  planes with open cockpit.  So that I cannot play ROF for more than 5 min without repulsion

[II./JG27_Rich]

I have an IL-2 2001 story about the Mig 3. I first started on the demo in August 2001. When September came along I ran into this German who's handle was Josh. All of a sudden I hear this Santa Claus sounding voice on Roger Wilco in slow broken English saying he needs help learning to fly. After holding back the laughing the best I can I say ok and we start the teaching and leaning. After  two months of day in day out flying he's on my tail all the time in this Mig 3 Svak? It seems to always be the way. They think you are a god then they are laughing at you as you crash into the ground in flames full of their bullets. Anyway we became very good friends

Edited September 6, 2013 by II./JG27Richie

[wtornado]

If it flew anything like the MiG-3 in IL-2 Forgotten Battles onward no wonder

the response is not to enthusiastic.

 

That was my favorite snap,role, super stall, you a dead at 1500m plane. 

[Volkoff]

If it flew anything like the MiG-3 in IL-2 Forgotten Battles onward no wonder

the response is not to enthusiastic.

 

That was my favorite snap,role, super stall, you a dead at 1500m plane. 

 

Fans of the Mig -3 might want to pitch the benefits of a Battle of Moscow map. Early vvs plane fans will  like to be able to sim fly planes like the I-16, I-153, and Mig-3, while fans of the Axis rides may like the Battle of Moscow map because Luftwaffe fans can fly against planes like the 1-16, I-153, and Mig-3.    I think that the Battle of Moscow map will be a great map and challenging map for the VVS players, because it will put the VVS at a tremendous disadvantage. I wonder if the community will want to follow the Stalingrad map with another map that places the VVS at a disadvantage or if the community will first want a map where the VVS rides are highly competitive with the Luftwaffe rides, such as the Battle of Kuban? I can see great reasons for going either way, personally. I certainly want both maps, because I like the planes that will likely be featured on both maps and because each map presents a significantly different gameplay experience for both the VVS and Luftwaffe.

 

 MJ

Edited September 13, 2013 by =69.GIAP=MIKHA

[Bf-110]

Early war soviet planes are cool!The I-16,I-153,I-15bis,SB-2 and DB-2.

Didn't knew MiG-3 career was so brief.Nice plane,tho.

[Finkeren]

A little Off-Topic

 

Possible planes that join the Battle over Stalingrad ----> Take a closer look at this side http://www.fspilotshop.com/wwii-expansions-stalingrad-1942-1943-p-1930.html

 

- Messerschmitt Bf-109-G2 / G6

- Focke Wulf Fw-190A-4

- Heinkel He-111 H2 / H6

- Junkers Ju-87D-3 / 5

- Junkers Ju-88A-4

- Messerschmitt Bf-110 G2

- I.A.R. 80

- I.A.R. 81c

- Lavochkin LaGG-3

- Lavochkin La-5/F

- Mikoyan Gurevich MiG-3 AM-38

- Yakovlev Yak-1b, 7b, 9, 9T

- Hawker Hurricane Mk II

- IIyushin IL-2 / M /Type 3

- Polikarpov I-16 Type 24

- Pe-2

- Pe-3bis

- I-153P

That list hits pretty far off the mark in some places. I mean: Bf 109 G6 but no F4? No single seater or converted Il-2, but we get the swept wing 1944 type? The Yak 9T when the NS 37 gun only started front line trials at the end of the battle, on the Il-2? Etc etc etc.

 

Besides, this is not really a source, it's just a plane set for an old IL2 campaign, that some guy came up with.

[Livai]

That list hits pretty far off the mark in some places. I mean: Bf 109 G6 but no F4? No single seater or converted Il-2, but we get the swept wing 1944 type? The Yak 9T when the NS 37 gun only started front line trials at the end of the battle, on the Il-2? Etc etc etc.

 

Besides, this is not really a source, it's just a plane set for an old IL2 campaign, that some guy came up with.

Thats I found out today where I spend more time to check this planes. But for this campaign where you should paid for it 26 Dollar. I was sure if I need to pay for something that the planes where there. But after looking closer some planes are not correct. Found some better information that I would like to share but for this time I made my own thread what is a better idea to share this information what I found and I hope that this time is more correct than this usermade campaign what I don't known before. I just removed my post to keep the thread clean and to start my own thread. 

[csThor]

To paraphrase Oleg Maddox: "Throw away that list and never look at it again." It's utterly unhistorical and contains aircraft that just weren't there.