IL-2 almost impossible to fly!

[Dustball]

Hi,

I consider myself bit more than a rookie gamer in some combat flight simulation games and and a seasoned veteran in others. For instance, I have trouble with take-off and some flying exercises in RISE OF FLIGHT. In WINGS OF PREY I'm very seasoned. However, trying to fly Alpha plane in IL-2 BATTLE OF STALINGRAD is almost IMPOSSIBLE! I have a good flightstick. It's a Logitech Force 3D with feedback and its always seen me through. Trying to fly a mission in the above game is like trying to fly a cement brick with paper wings. If planes were that hard to fly for real, then there would be very few pilots left to fight the Germans. Please make the flying experience a lot more user friendly. As of now, I regret purchasing the game.

[GrieverGriever_XIV]

Not sure what youre talking about, there are many things that could be improved, but I think the flight model is pretty good. DCS WWII planes are a notch better imo, but this sims flight model is still great. I dont know what you expected though, these planes aren't meant to fly like in War Thunder.

Maybe it's cause youre flying the Lagg 3? Try the other planes, the Yak and the Bf 109 are very very nimble and feel much lighter. 

Edited October 22, 2014 by GrieverGriever_XIV

[=LD=Hethwill]

Hi there.

 

BoP is a different breed and way less complex regarding flight dynamics. You can't even compare. Get ready to go all over again to flight school ( something I personally enjoy in a new flight sim, always coming back to the roots of learning  )

 

^You can't regret if you don't even go through the learning curve, just saying. We all willing to help you BUT~You have to be specific on what you having difficulties on.

 

Also maybe it help to check some of the youtubers as well for guides ? Check Requiem for a start 

Edited October 22, 2014 by =LD=Hethwill_Khan

[Y-29.Silky]

And I remember I thought it was impossible to take off with the 1800 in the Stuka.. Until I sat down and thought it through. Once you do it once, you can do it blind folded.

Edited October 22, 2014 by Silky

[VBF-12_Stick-95]

Trying to fly a mission in the above game is like trying to fly a cement brick with paper wings. If planes were that hard to fly for real, then there would be very few pilots left to fight the Germans. Please make the flying experience a lot more user friendly. As of now, I regret purchasing the game.

 

WWII fighter aircraft were hard to fly.  The three best ways to learn how to fly them are practice, practice and, of course, more practice.

 

As far as getting a cement brick to fly, you would need to talk to a Marine.

[indiaciki]

Patterns. Landings, landings, landings...

[MiG21bisFishbedL]

WoP's flight model was a joke, to be honest. Game's more akin to AC. And RoF? That really won't prepare you. Here's the thing: Single-engined piston aircraft produce torque that affect the aircraft's behavior. This reaction is directly related to how much power an engine produces.

 

In WWI, fighters producing 200 horsepower out of primitive engine were the cat's meow. You've got a pretty small engine so the torque effects are easily manageable.

 

The Il-2 from the second world war, by comparison, utilized 1,730hp. You're a lot faster than you were in RoF. Keep an eye on your airspeed indicator and don't maneuver violently below 200km/h.

 

And, flying like a brick with wings? Yeah, that sounds like an Il-2. It was a heavy beast of an aircraft that wasn't meant to dog-fight, but to strike ground targets. It's MTOW is 6,380kg(14,065lbs). And, even empty, it still weighs in at 4,360 kg (9,612 lb). It's called a flying tank for a reason; it's covered in armor. The belly of the aircraft had something like quarter inch thick plating.

Edited October 22, 2014 by MiG21bisFishbedL

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

Try some air starts and do lots of pattern work.

[[TWB]Pand]

Practice practice practice

[indiaciki]

[indiaciki]

you must unlearn what you have learned...

 

[FlatSpinMan]

What exactly is the problem? Are you ground looping on take off? Are you unable to take off? In mid air do you find it hard to climb? Hard to turn sharply?

 

It's quite hard to learn,but if you let us know what exactly is giving you trouble, we'll help you.

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

Do you have team speak? There are many who are willing to 'fly right seat' for you and get ya up to speed.

[Marq_Tex]

Dusball

 

My experience with FW 190 is an example:  it was impossible to take off with it.... many time that i tried with bad results, "noob"attitude, few years in this job but it is not enough  (I mean in IL2 1946 or RoF)

The key was Requiem (Thx to him for the greats tutorials). 

 

 knowledge, practice and patience.

 

Im sure that the result will be very gratifying...

 

We are dealing with the best simulator done until today, at least its base. My opinion of course.

[indiaciki]

There's a reason why a pilot's hours are counted and logged...

[Mungee]

Not sure what youre talking about, there are many things that could be improved, but I think the flight model is pretty good. DCS WWII planes are a notch better imo, but this sims flight model is still great. I dont know what you expected though, these planes aren't meant to fly like in War Thunder.

 

Maybe it's cause youre flying the Lagg 3? Try the other planes, the Yak and the Bf 109 are very very nimble and feel much lighter. 

 

I've never battled with flying a simulated aircraft like the LaGG-3 - I've flown sim's for 20 years or so and I'm getting structural damage on about 50% of my landings!

 

Last night I did 20 take-off's/landings and had only 1 good landing with probably another 9 landings with serious damage to the aircraft.

 

I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with the LaGG's flight model etc ... it's just bloody difficult to fly (and especially to land!).

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

Sounds like your angle and/or rate of descent are too high. Have you checked our Requiem's tutorials?

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

C'mon IL-2 is easy to fly and land to. C Reqiem youtube channel. Have fun.

[SOLIDKREATE]

It takes practice and determination. You didn't buy an arcade game. It took me about a month to learn how to fly a SIMULATOR grade game. Your should educate yourself on real piloting and how aircraft actually work.

 

And by the way this was wrong topic to post your complaints. This is for 'Other 1C Games'.

Edited October 24, 2014 by KOTP_SPEKTRE76

[39bn_pavig]

The other night I was trying to land the IL2 and figured I'd messed it up so hit the throttle to abort, and the plane just happily landed itself. I realized that (counterintuitively) I had been landing too slow, effectively stalling into the ground. Try mixing it up a little and you may stumble on what you have been doing wrong. 

[machtu]

I had the same experience when I started this sim a few days ago. After free flight doing ground attack practice for some time, I finally started to get a feel for the 109. It didn't take too long to get smoother on the stick and hit the ground targets without crashing.

 

Now I need to get my landings down.

[BlackDevil]

Hi Mungee,

 

it needs some time to judge the height above the runway. The goal is, to touch down with the stick pulled fully back. You can either level off centimeters above ground and just wait until the stick is back, or you start a few meters heigher, but keep decsending with the stick going back. Again - at touchdown it needs to be fully deflected, otherwise you bounce back into the air.

 

Most guys I watch landing online are much too fast. If you stop at the tower at Lapino, you are doing it right.

 

Happy Landings

Edited November 30, 2014 by BlackDevil

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

 The only plane in BoS requiring attention during landing is the Pe-2. Others are a walk in the park.

[-NW-ChiefRedCloud]

I think Dustball may not be with us anymore. But if you are, what specifically is your problem with flight in BoS?

 

Chief