Uyghur Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 Its kinda forcing us to play 20-30 hours (or even more) of single player to be able to experience "full" game in MP... Any hint about how to unlocks things a little bit faster, I don't want to jump in to MP with no unlock,,~ 6
LLv34_Flanker Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 S! Do the missions, kill extra targets and land = more XP.
71st_AH_Mastiff Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 Short missions Expert...I was able to do it in under 40 hours. Also there not unlocks there Field mods.
Pringliano Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 I'm just starting, and having big fun, although in the fw190 intercep mission, dawn, expert, I couldn't find the bombers :-(
avlSteve Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) You can scale the time to 2x, could help out during transit. Edited October 22, 2014 by avlSteve
Beazil Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) It doesn't take that long to do. Fastest way would be to pick the rides you want to concentrate on and ignore the rest. I unlocked the f4 first, am halfway through the a3, and have some of the mods for other planes. The biggest time waster for me is ramming ea and crash landing which net me zero and 50% experience respectively. Edited October 22, 2014 by Beazil
Lusekofte Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 The unlock exclude our squad to be active, very few of us got the time for this crap. I really cannot understand why the developers choose to ignore 90 % of the customers 14
1./KG4_Blackwolf Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) The unlock exclude our squad to be active, very few of us got the time for this crap. I really cannot understand why the developers choose to ignore 90 % of the customers I'm with you, but I am going through the pain of it all. It is a great game when you can get by the cheesy Xbox unlock things. Edited October 22, 2014 by Blackwolf
MiG21bisFishbedL Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 Shouldn't have to grind though unlocks, to be honest. The fun if playing the sim should be actually playing the sim. gg.
kileab Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 This campaign sucks, it's so frustrating. Got 4 planes shooted down, and sudenly my left wing cut in half by a ghost AAA. Rage quit, nice game, really enjoy this... I don't care about the SP mode and I must "play" it for hours. It's the biggest fail of this game really. 3
=LD=Hethwill Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 Not in a hurry myself, so it is hard to grasp the concept of wanting to do it in a day or two. Sorry to say. Don't misinterpret me, I don't support the system. But... Doing 1 mission a day in the evening, full length, expert. In a month I might have the extras, but not really a deterrent to play MP. I think the timeframe of doing the campaign is highly acceptable, doing 1 mission a day. 2
Brano Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 Its kinda forcing us to play 20-30 hours (or even more) of single player to be able to experience "full" game in MP... Any hint about how to unlocks things a little bit faster, I don't want to jump in to MP with no unlock,,~ What kind of "unlocks'' do you miss to fully enjoy MP? Each plane has its standard equipment right from the beginning. 1
SCG_Space_Ghost Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) Short missions Expert...I was able to do it in under 40 hours. Also there not unlocks there Field mods.Standard bomb loads are not "field mods." Attempting to rebrand a terrible concept doesn't make it any less terrible. They are "unlocks" and were designed and implemented to be so. Edited October 22, 2014 by FalkeEins
1./KG4_Blackwolf Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 Point missed Brano, why play sp to unlock anything in MP?..anyway I'm not going to beat the dead horse or bring that up again.
Brano Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 Maybe missed the point,but not panzer or stug in my sturmovik with standard 6x100kg FAB bombs.I enjoy it on MP without unlocks.
Sokol1 Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 Also there not unlocks there Field mods. I think find a "bug" in GUI: 1
71st_AH_Mastiff Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 Standard bomb loads are not "field mods." Attempting to rebrand a terrible concept doesn't make it any less terrible. They are "unlocks" and were designed and implemented to be so. Field mods!
BladeMeister Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 Not Power Ups? HEHEHEHE! Yes this is similar to my first Console game for Sega Genesis, Altered Beasts, 1
A_S Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 101 in sales: - It is NEVER a good idea to give your customer the impression of "no choice" in his product !
Livai Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) Field Mods!!!!! plane abilities Edited October 23, 2014 by Superghostboy
150GCT_Veltro Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) You can unlock some essential mod with few missions (white skin and bombs for ex.). Fly intercept missions and kill extra targets as said above. Edited October 23, 2014 by 150GCT_Veltro
=69.GIAP=RADKO Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 Short missions Expert...I was able to do it in under 40 hours. Also there not unlocks there Field mods. Let's not beat around the bush Veltro, They're unlocks whether they are field mods or not. Hence being called a unlock system.
III/JG53Frankyboy Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) i just ignore this stuff (how ever you want call it) the planes are playable without........the actual MP offer is not so overwhelming that i feel a "Need" sitting here and flying SP campaign. i wait what the next 6 months will bring Edited October 23, 2014 by III/JG53Frankyboy 2
FlatSpinMan Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 I can see why people don't like it, but think of the new players to the game. They'll hit MP with at least some idea of what to do, and I think that's one reason for doing it. 1
=69.GIAP=RADKO Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) I can see why people don't like it, but think of the new players to the game. They'll hit MP with at least some idea of what to do, and I think that's one reason for doing it. They'd also have the same result without an unlock system. Most games when having a unlock system involves being competitive to other human opponents which fuels there reason for unlocking something in the first place. However if most people are single players for this series this system serves no purpose what so ever. I'm sure the average gamer who gives it a try won't be to bothered by it but I can't see how this method is going to boost sales. If anything I think it could potentially damage, as there are customers trying to avoid such games. War Thunder, World of Tanks, Mech Warrior online and many others have something all in common, they're all multiplayer only! Slapping this ridiculous system onto BoS has to be the worst decision. Edited October 23, 2014 by =69.GIAP=RADKO 1
Elbows Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 ^Beaten to it. Anyone who wants to learn the ropes will spend all of their time in QMB/Single Player prior to diving into MP (though the training servers etc. are quite good). The unlocks will do nothing for them...nor will this system magically attract a new wave of players.
avlSteve Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 101 in sales: - It is NEVER a good idea to give your customer the impression of "no choice" in his product ! ... as Steve Jobs rolls over in his grave 3
4pg_inferno Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 Some guys in developer team think they are Steve Jobs
wellenbrecher Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 They'd also have the same result without an unlock system. Most games when having a unlock system involves being competitive to other human opponents which fuels there reason for unlocking something in the first place. However if most people are single players for this series this system serves no purpose what so ever. I'm sure the average gamer who gives it a try won't be to bothered by it but I can't see how this method is going to boost sales. If anything I think it could potentially damage, as there are customers trying to avoid such games. War Thunder, World of Tanks, Mech Warrior online and many others have something all in common, they're all multiplayer only! Slapping this ridiculous system onto BoS has to be the worst decision. Hear, hear. If an unlock system was the only way to get newcomers to play MP there never would've been a MP scene to begin with.
=69.GIAP=Shvak Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) I own the game. Since they introduced the unlock this is about the second time I have fired up the game. I looked at the ping to the syndicate server and tried to convince myself I should start to grind the unlocks in SP... I then closed the game. Kudos to the idiot who thought unlocks was a great idea. Edited October 23, 2014 by =69.GIAP=Shvak 4
[TWB]80hd Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 I have found that playing this when you finish each mission helps a lot: 1
[TWB]Pand Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 There seems to be some back and forth on Single Player vs Multiplayer and associated unlocks for field modifications. I put together a quick 3-4 minute instructional video on how to quickly unlock your field modifications for your bombers in Single Player mode so you can minimize your mindless work and get back to some thought provoking multiplayer action! Enjoy! :salute! http://www.twitch.tv/pand_twb/c/5352381 1
ducs Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 There seems to be some back and forth on Single Player vs Multiplayer and associated unlocks for field modifications. I put together a quick 3-4 minute instructional video on how to quickly unlock your field modifications for your bombers in Single Player mode so you can minimize your mindless work and get back to some thought provoking multiplayer action! Enjoy! :salute! http://www.twitch.tv/pand_twb/c/5352381 FYI If doing this on expert, you can have full unlocks on your Stuka, HE-111, PE-2, and pretty much anything else thats lets you choose the bombing missions. Make sure you look for the 'bomb supply depot mission'. Missions change based on what field you choose to base out of, so check them all. If you don't see it, just start a mission then abort it on the map screen to refresh the missions. Pick the biggest bombs you can and dive bomb or w/e the supply depot. You should get b/t 20-60 buildings in a run which will net you anywhere from 300-700xp. Keep in mind its only 2k XP to completely finish an aircraft, So if you're really spot on, you can unlock a complete in 5-8 missions with each taking roughly 5-10 mins. Source: Me. I'm a level 10 pilot with 100% germany and almost all of Russian complete, with only about 14 hours of game time in SP (the meat and potatoes spent practicing level bombing for funsies.)
DD_bongodriver Posted October 23, 2014 Posted October 23, 2014 I can see why people don't like it, but think of the new players to the game. They'll hit MP with at least some idea of what to do, and I think that's one reason for doing it. So 95% of us have to suffer this rubbish for the sake of a tiny percentage of new players that 'might' get in to flying games and who knows what proportion of those would even bother with MP, who cares if new blood knows what to do on their first outing? none of us should be forced into this drudgery just to spoon feed a couple of noobs. 3
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