Rate it now .. as it is!

[DD_Arthur]

For me its a mixture of this;

 

8 - unlocks are my only gripe, aside from the loss of one MP server because that was the template MP servers should be using. Considering what was being done there, wars would have been amazing and will be but it will take time due to the aforementioned unlocks.

 

and this; 

 

5 I'm afraid... mainly because the Campaign is not a campaign. No real immersion. Just a series of disjointed missions.

Next is the unlock system... ludicrous in a 'Legendary' flight sim.

The good points:

1. Great graphics
2. Effects are good.
3. Missions are sometimes repetitive, but there are some cracking good ones on occasion.
4. Despite the usual moans from the 'experten', I enjoy the feeling of flight.

With the experience of IL2 and RoF behind the two teams, I certainly didn't expect the design choices that they have come up with.

 

So I'm going to give 'em a 7 but I think this will be going up to a 9 by Christmas when we'll have had a lot more updates and I suspect some announcement over the future course of the game.  Hmmm...actually I'm going to give them 8 due to the scorching pace of development and the sheer amount of long, hard work this dev team has put in to give us this game inside twenty two months.   

[CheeseGromit]

Torn between a 6 and 7, one seems a little harsh the other feels a little generous.

[[KWN]T-oddball]

no FMB or dserver...5

[St_Zeno]

why no german language? we do fly german planes and i am a german.  -2 points for it. Hope the controllsystem works now better(G940) So in the moment its a 7 for me.

[Aracno]

As it is now: 5

 

No fmb

unlock for MP

no Dserver

no graphic options

no custom skin

no realistic bombsight

only two snowy maps

no ac ID number and other stuff for virtual squadrons activity

Edited October 23, 2014 by Aracno

[Mac_Messer]

Some of you are giving the same review values as CLoD's release, that is how terribly worthless this poll and many of the reviews from individuals are because they aren't neutral. CloD at release was given 4s and 5s - and it rightfully deserved 1s and 2s.

Not at all. CLoD was a good game, I gave it 6 out of 10 because it lacked seriously in mp department. In some aspects it is still better than BoS, god forbid, right?If BoS ends up lacking it, it can`t be any more than a 6 aswell.

Edited October 23, 2014 by Mac_Messer

[A-E-Hartmann]

voted 7 :

 

But I have no doubt.
In some time the score will be 10.  

[Dakpilot]

If I ever felt the need to vote a game as 1 out of 10 I would certainly never play it again, let alone continue to participate in its forums

 

Cheers Dakpilot

[IRRE_Belmont]

1 - total crap IMHO especially from MP point of view. Something like VEF is not going to happen in this sim. 

Never seen such a professional review,

 

You should maybe consider investing into War Thunder arcade mode, that should fit your personnality well if i may say.

[wellenbrecher]

I hate rating in numbers, it feels inadequate, but whatever:

Considering that this is supposed to be the release, I'll give it a six or 60% or whatever.

 

Why? Let's mention the downsides:

The campaign is a QMB, nothing else. No immersion, no consequences, not even any continuity and despite all of that it doesn't even bother to tell a story. Wikipedia is a more engaging way to experience the history behind Stalingrad :c

We have no FMB.

We have no proper MP since for some unfathomable reason they released before the utilities were even ready. One English-speaking objective based server and one Russian one shouldn't be the end of it.

The graphical quality feels random. Beautiful overall look and effects and then... best example would be "slot" indicators on the 109's wing for flaps or the laughable quality of the wing texture when it comes to small details like the bolts.

Somewhat related to that, I was hoping they'd go further in terms of DMs, especially in the visual department. Having landing gear fall out after damage has been done to the hydraulics, seeing the struts in your wing after a HE round took off the cover, that kinda stuff. Not just black decals.

Plane selection is limited, I understand why and this has been clear since the beginning, but a part of me is still slightly disappointed. Nothing major, but I wanted to mention it.

Then there's the unlock system and how it's applied, that's the one clear, major downside that will have me not recommend the game to people who ask.

Another negative for me is how the community has been handled, that IMO is part of the game and how one should rate it.

[LLv44_Mprhead]

Giving it 8 atm. Unlocks and lacking immersion in campaign being the main reasons why I am not rating it higher.

[Rjel]

I'd give it a solid 7. The potential for a full 10 is there, IMO. There are still a few issues for me with freezes and lock ups but it is improving. When it's running smooth it's a blast and the feel of flight down low is the best I've ever experienced in a sim. Visually I like the game too. The terrain shows a lot of variation in what could otherwise have been a very bland snow covered land scape. Special effects are good to excellent. I'd have preferred the campaign mode as it stands now, had been presented as a single mission generator and a different campaign system developed. Perhaps that will come. If so, I'd definitely give this sim a 10. 

[indiaciki]

It was a 9 before they came up with unlock reward skinner type conditioning

[KodiakJac]

Doh...I posted this in the Change User Name Poll

 

I gave it a 1 because I don't play it. If they had taken the RoF b-Career and ported its functionality over "as is" and just switched out the WW1 stuff for WW2 stuff (medals, etc) I would rate BoS an 8 or 9.

 

Right now for me as an SP player it is like buying a Ferrari that I later find out has no wheels and its sitting on blocks in my driveway. No matter how cool that Ferrari is, I can't drive it without wheels, so it does me no good.

 

There seems to be a lot of agruments for rating the BoS components individually, but I don't get a kick out of flying around in really cool planes without a purpose. And for an SP player my only purpose is the unlocks. And yes I've been playing it...I was just shy of reaching pilot level 4 and got into the 2nd section of the campaign when I just quit out of boredom. And I've gone back and tried it several more times, but the "coolness" just didn't grab me any more than that Ferrari sitting on blocks in my driveway. And yes I play IL-2 1946 and RoF, WOFF, CFS3, or CloD 3 or 4 times a week, so combat flight sims are my thing!

 

Before you crucify me, remember I said with the RoF b-Career ported over and used in BoS I would give it an 8 or 9 immediately

 

[mbv]

7 for now, but I expect that to change for the positive with continued development after the release. Main things that would improve it for me include better optimisation, FMB, more depth and immersion in the dynamic SP campaign.

[Nil]

Since I can't even force myself to play it right now.. I change my vote back to a 7

[Jarza]

I just love this game. Its not perfect but best since original IL-2 and its adones.

So i give 9.

I like unlocks and campaign. Graphics are excellent, fly model feels believable.

[CCG_Pips]

vote 7

 

 

When FMB and D servers will be here = 9

 

With some corrections (details) as gas mask for pilot at high altitude , or some strange flight models (see some post)  = 10  

 

 

[CCG_Pips]

Doh...I posted this in the Change User Name Poll

 

I gave it a 1 because I don't play it. If they had taken the RoF b-Career and ported its functionality over "as is" and just switched out the WW1 stuff for WW2 stuff (medals, etc) I would rate BoS an 8 or 9.

 

Right now for me as an SP player it is like buying a Ferrari that I later find out has no wheels and its sitting on blocks in my driveway. No matter how cool that Ferrari is, I can't drive it without wheels, so it does me no good.

 

There seems to be a lot of agruments for rating the BoS components individually, but I don't get a kick out of flying around in really cool planes without a purpose. And for an SP player my only purpose is the unlocks. And yes I've been playing it...I was just shy of reaching pilot level 4 and got into the 2nd section of the campaign when I just quit out of boredom. And I've gone back and tried it several more times, but the "coolness" just didn't grab me any more than that Ferrari sitting on blocks in my driveway. And yes I play IL-2 1946 and RoF, WOFF, CFS3, or CloD 3 or 4 times a week, so combat flight sims are my thing!

 

Before you crucify me, remember I said with the RoF b-Career ported over and used in BoS I would give it an 8 or 9 immediately

 

 

Sorry, this flight simulator game is not only built around SP Campaign.

 

So givin' a 1 is ridiculous. If you get the Full SP Campaign like in ROF with horrific graphics and terrible Flight Models, will you rate a 9??

 

i Should understand a 5 or even a 4, but 1   means, nothing is correct and this is unfair....

[ST_ami7b5]

Wait, you say RoF has horrific graphics and terrible flight models?

[wellenbrecher]

Sorry, this flight simulator game is not only built around SP Campaign.

 

They keep saying it is, though 

Zak did it again in the patch topic just a few days ago.

[CCG_Pips]

Wait, you say RoF has horrific graphics and terrible flight models?

 

No, certainly not!!   just taking words and using them as they are!!!  

[[DBS]El_Marta]

Only 7 until now due to:

 

- skin system

- FM oddities

- diverse remaining bugs (like incompability of FFB and trim commands)

- no dedicated server

- no full mission builder.

 

I am quite optimistic that the situati9on will change for the better.

[BlackDevil]

For over 10 years people have been playing IL2 coop. My group now has over 600 missions in our library and fly every night. This lack of coop in this game is a hugh loss for us and several have decided to drop BOS for that reason. Such a shame for a game with such great potential.

 

Coop is possible. You need to wait for Dserver and Editor.

like incompability of FFB and trim commands

 

It works perfect. Did you post your problems in the tech section for assistance ?

[Jaws2002]

  This is not a new game made from scratch with a 2014 game engine, but built on a 5+ years directx 9 engine.   I gave ROF a nine, but was new and everything was made from scratch.

So I start at eight

 no mission builder (it was available in ROF)

 no custom graphics (available in ROF)

 no skins or decal system

 no dedicated server yet

unlocks

attitude of the developers

 

I'd give it a 4 right now.

Edited October 30, 2014 by Jaws2002

[SYN_Jedders]

I voted for 7/10 for the same reasons most have voted here. Unlocks and graphic presets being the important ones. That said, most everything else will develop further and I may feel better about it pretty soon.

 

I took a few minutes to remember how I would rate RoF and CloD after 1 week of release and I reckon I would have given RoF a 5/10 because of its limited variety and performance. It didn't even have a dogfight MP mode at release. CloD would have got a 2/10 because of its awful performance and missing features. The point here is that both RoF and CloD improved hugely over time. RoF gets a 9/10 now and CloD a 7/10.

 

My point?, well, things improve. Either hang around and see what comes up or if you truly believe its a 4/10 or less then stick it in the bin and chalk it up to experience.

[ER*Wumme]

Hi comrades,

 I voted  for 8/10 for the same reasons most have voted here.  I am so happy that  i can either  take part in a  Simulation of   the   only  new  WII combat   which is currently  on the market  and graphically up to Date.

i Forget DCS  but it`s graphics   is 10  years old and ist looks like.    Graphics + Sound + FM  are the major arguments for a Simulation .   the rest of  criticspoints are    Peanuts .

 

I enjoy IL 2 BOS almost every day  and i attest  the DEVS - a Little TEAM of 10  People i guess -  made a great JOB.

[HeavyCavalrySgt]

I am more confused about this article:

 

 

http://www.gamerheadlines.com/2014/10/il-2-sturmovik-devs-metacritic/

 

 

 

 

 

I guess I don't quite see the problem.  I would give the game a 7 right now.  Gorgeous, but with a weak single player experience which is about where the Metacritic score sits.

 

I would happily have given it a 10 if it had a dynamic campaign that built off of what was done in R0F, a 9 if it had the same sort of dynamic campaign.

[Trooper117]

It is definitely a 5 from me... perhaps because I'm an old simmer who has spent years on other games that deliver a good single player experience.

I haven't played the game in over a week, but will give it another go to see if they have improved anything... I will probably up my score as time goes by if they make improvements

[Lusekofte]

I voted 7 for how it is 'right now'. I'm sure there will be many improvements. My main issues at this time are terrible performance on the ground, bad frames also around furballs, those unlocks, aa around objects and clouds and finally graphical presets.

 

Otherwise I'm pretty happy and look forward to what is coming down the road.

I agree totally, but these test give really nothing. It pisses me of to see that people cannot be objective in them. There is not made one simulator that have been perfect and not one witch earned just 1 point. Not even cfs3 earned 1 point. And those who put 10, is that for counterweight? 

I put my 7 as a honest opinion, but I have absolutely no confidence what so ever in the 1 and 10 givers

[SYN_Vorlander]

6

[SYN_Mike77]

I've decided to treat this poll as a rolling test. That is I will delete my vote and revote for the game as it is. I originally gave the game an 8. But with version 1.003 I am downgrading that to a 5. The game is nearly unplayable for me now. CTD's with every SP mission and constantly locked out of my squad server. Hopefully, come the weekend I can re rate it higher.

[[MA]Jinx]

Gave it 6. It has huge potential. But the lack of advanced graphics options makes it not so enjoyable for me. It's either playing it with nice graphics (Balanced) with input lag, or dirt ugly (Low) with lesser input lag.

If I could turn off Motion Blur, SSAO/HDAO, and other post procession effects and HDR then it would be so much more enoyable.

 

Playing it on LOW settings makes the textures look like a game from 2001....     

 

I bought this game yesterday, now that I understood it was out of Early Access. I feel cheated! This is what you would expect from a console game.

[Lusekofte]

Motion blur is possible to switch off, un hatch cinematic view and it is gone.

[Finkeren]

I gave BoS a 7/10. It gets an extra point for the great potential it has. If Ithought this was all we were ever gonna get from tis sim, it'd be a 6 or even 5.

 

The sim is a great foundation to build from, but right now it's just seriously lacking in terms of game design to live up to even half the potential, that the sim itself holds.

 

There are flaws within the sim itself as well. I could mention some remaining FM issues, the AI which is still in some ways dysfunctional (though overall looks promising), persisting graphics issues (loading time for textures/skins, cloud issue, smoke etc) the lack of a proper decal system or some other solution for people who want more skin options, spotting of ground objects etc. etc. All these flaws are fairy minor though, and if the framework was good with a proper career/campaign, more developed MP and a better unlock system (peferably no unlocks at all) BoS would score a 9/10 from me.

 

Looking forward to be able to dish out that score.

[[MA]Jinx]

Motion blur is possible to switch off, un hatch cinematic view and it is gone.

This is only in regards to the External Views as I understand it. Anyway, off course I turned it off already. But it seems to me that it made either no difference or a hardly noticeable difference. There seem to be some "smoothing" of my inputs going on. Both on mouse, stick and TrackIR. It feels weird looking around. There's both an input lag in the TrackIR and also it feels like there's some image smoothing or something going on. 

[Matt]

There is a smoothing setting in the camera otions. Not sure how it's called exactly, but when you look in the camera options, you should find it. I think it's set to 0.5 by default.

[SYN_Mike77]

Motion blur off effects both in and out of cockpit view. One thing I do as soon as I spawn in is to look all around as much as possible (trackir user here). In that initial sweep around there is all kinds of stutter and lag. But once i do that it is smooth as silk. If I forget it seems like every first move of my head in a direction causes stutters. Annoying but an easy fix for me. It is habit now.

Edited November 6, 2014 by SYN_Mike77

[Bearcat]

I voted an 8 .. all based on the sim.. not the drama.. not the forums.. but the sim itself. I think it is a good thing.. and while some features are not to my liking .. my biggest beef is being forced to go through a SP campaign which is something I just don't like to do and I feel I should be able to fly this thing the way I like.. Overall the sim is sound and even the way the unlocks are in the sim.... it could have been worse. For me it rates an 8 due to lack of a ME and skin templates (which I am confident are forthcoming but they still aren't here... ) and the unlocks. Changing these features would IMO give it a 9.5-10 and all this is dynamic anyway.. it will change as things get better.. I can see a day when the 9-10 will be the norm because the sim can do it.

[AG-51RazorRazer]

I feel just like Bearcat above however, the difference between he and I is I guess I put a whole lot more weight on those things that he mentions as being wrong with the sim, or lacking. I'd give it a solid 3 for now. I am very impressed with the graphics, I've had no issues with stutters or anything. A very solid visual experience for me. Very immersive in the feeling of flying and the attention to detail. 

 

I have no use for the unlock system. Some have mentioned that they see it as a type of flight school, which is probably not far off the mark however I resent being forced to go to flight school after having paid quite a lot of money for this flight sim. I expected to be able to build my own training missions and then host my squad in them and get our training done that way. This was a huge disappointment to me, particularly considering the cost compared to other sims of similar genre.

 

I understand the lack of aircraft to fly and have no doubt that they will add more as time goes on. just as I am confident that other maps and theaters will be added. I can be very patient where that is concerned but unfortunately the time it will take to get there will not be spent in this sim by me until the unlocks are eliminated, a mission editor is added, and the ability for me to host my own multiplay missions is added. Until that time, count me as a VERY unsatisfied customer who feels like I have purchased the proverbial pig in a poke!