Nil Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 (edited) Just a test.. but please participate Edited October 21, 2014 by Pigmachine
SYN_Jedders Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 I voted 7 for how it is 'right now'. I'm sure there will be many improvements. My main issues at this time are terrible performance on the ground, bad frames also around furballs, those unlocks, aa around objects and clouds and finally graphical presets. Otherwise I'm pretty happy and look forward to what is coming down the road.
SYN_Ricky Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 Voted 7 too, as I did on metacritic before they deleted the votes. Still quite a few things to be improved (clouds/AA) and also not very happy about unlocks in MP. I also would see more historical veracity and immersion factors in campaign. For the rest, pretty solid and well working sim. Hope it will succeed and see many further developments.
Matt Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 It's basically a 7.5 for me, but since the devs have been kicking out nice updates the past few days, i voted 8. Would at least be 9.5 with custom graphic options, custom skins, FMB, without unlocks (in MP and QMB at least) and with some improvements of the campaign mode. 2
JG700_Benek Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 1 - total crap IMHO especially from MP point of view. Something like VEF is not going to happen in this sim. 2
BFsSmurfy Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 I`m with Jed pretty much, voted 6 due to the last 3 weeks of forum activity which has been less than encouraging to me.
Reflected Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 It's basically a 7.5 for me, but since the devs have been kicking out nice updates the past few days, i voted 8. Would at least be 9.5 with custom graphic options, custom skins, FMB, without unlocks (in MP and QMB at least) and with some improvements of the campaign mode. I totally share Matt's opinion, especially the campaign improvements.
MiG21bisFishbedL Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 It's a solid and great sim, but the unlocks do all sorts of bad for the overall experience.
SYN_Mike77 Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 I took off a point for unlocks and a half point for no custom video settings. This is applied to an otherwise 9.5 sim. Thus for me an 8.
A_S Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 I am more confused about this article: http://www.gamerheadlines.com/2014/10/il-2-sturmovik-devs-metacritic/
SYN_Jedders Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 I wouldn't worry about it. The Agenda driven ragers are trying their level best to destroy the reputation of this game on whatever social platform they can find to listen to them. This is obviously the latest in line. 5
Guest deleted@1562 Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 I gave it a five because of no FMB and generic single player. Give us the FMB or a single player campaign of Desastersoft calibre and my rating will go up to 8. Give us coop campaigns and I give it a 9.
jeanba Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 Rated _ : 10-1 for unlocks -1 for no customized difficulty in sp campaigns
sallee Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 I wouldn't worry about it. The Agenda driven ragers are trying their level best to destroy the reputation of this game on whatever social platform they can find to listen to them. This is obviously the latest in line. Indeed. Then the world will realise that all who cross them will be crushed.... I give it an 8 but with more absorbing campaign and no unlocks or less obtrusive ones it would be 16. 1
II/JG17_HerrMurf Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 I'm an MP guy so it's a solid 8. If I was an SP guy it'd be a 6 or 7. Fix the XP issue and I'd move it up a full point for both. Implement FMB and Feathered's campaign 10/10.
LLv34_Flanker Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 S! 7 as for now. Lot of grammatical and typing errors, missing proper briefings, route planning in missions as well as engagement altitudes for bombers, AI issues from not following orders to going gung-ho in a situation he would avoid combat or get home, unlocks and the XP thing in general, campaign nothing but an advanced quick mission builder without any immersion or attachment, lack of graphics options, sound issues, graphical issues detracting from otherwise great visuals. Those are the negatives reducing the score.
Anw.StG2_Tyke Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 4/10 because it has nothing exceptional. Graphics: Is okay for 2014, could be better some textures in the cockpits are horrible and without sweet fx its just looking bad. Technical Background/Flight models: Yeah I expect this from a flight simulation in 2014 that their FM/DM are the newest iteration possible done so nothing special, even some bad points regarded to the unbelievable flying behaviour of the Yak-1 with a phenomenal energy retention and the IL2 which is still controlable with 20 km/h. Furthermore: Cherry Picking from the Devs. Campaign/SP: Worst Single Player I have ever played, nearly on the same level like Silent Hunter 2, but atleast their missions hade some story background. They were scriptet but had somewhat atmosphere. Here the Campaign is the worst thing I've ever flown in my live. Oh and Unlocks... Multiplayer: Great potential but nothing great delivered yet/it has to be delivered from the community so yeah only plus is it is stable... oh and Skin-System is horrible bad. 1
6./ZG26_5tuka Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 (edited) 7/10 in my case, was very close giving 6 though. Graphics, sound and FMs match the 8/10 - they're quite good and enjoyable with some exceptions (engine sounds, Bf109 FM, VVS FMs, ect) Campaign is more a pain than gain to me, therefore dropping the score....so does predefiened graphic settings. My rig isn't the most powerfull and I need to rely on custom settings for any game to get proper FPS out of it. In BoS I have to live with balanced settings knowing I could definetly get more out of it, which is disappointing. If we had to vote development in addition, especially the recent occasions, my vote didn't exeed 5. But as we're voting the game itself, not what might or might not happen, 7 seems more than solid to me. Edited October 21, 2014 by [Jg26]5tuka
FuriousMeow Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 8 - unlocks are my only gripe, aside from the loss of one MP server because that was the template MP servers should be using. Considering what was being done there, wars would have been amazing and will be but it will take time due to the aforementioned unlocks.
SYN_Mike77 Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 FMB is coming. They have said recently that they are working on it now.
Baldric Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 I handed it an 8 as it stands (took points off for being unable to customize settings in the campaign, the unlocks affecting MP/co-op MP, and currently being unable to add my sqd tag to my ingame name lol).
JtD Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 (edited) Voted 4, biggest drawbacks for me are poor interface, lack of FMB and no custom difficulties in campaign. I can't create a decent MP server, nor can I play an enjoyable SP campaign. I see a potentially good game that currently offers nothing. Edited October 21, 2014 by JtD
Trooper117 Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 5 I'm afraid... mainly because the Campaign is not a campaign. No real immersion. Just a series of disjointed missions. Next is the unlock system... ludicrous in a 'Legendary' flight sim. The good points: 1. Great graphics 2. Effects are good. 3. Missions are sometimes repetitive, but there are some cracking good ones on occasion. 4. Despite the usual moans from the 'experten', I enjoy the feeling of flight. With the experience of IL2 and RoF behind the two teams, I certainly didn't expect the design choices that they have come up with. 4
dburne Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 I am not going to rate it, until it is a released product to be fair. Once released, I will gladly review/rate it as I see it.
FuriousMeow Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 (edited) Some of you are giving the same review values as CLoD's release, that is how terribly worthless this poll and many of the reviews from individuals are because they aren't neutral. CloD at release was given 4s and 5s - and it rightfully deserved 1s and 2s. Edited October 21, 2014 by FuriousMeow
=LD=Hethwill Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 Oddball Eight 8 - Highly playable and true credible flight mechanics - Very detailed world and attentive to air combat immersion - Great damage mechanics - Great MP potential - Interesting SP - Decent Campaign - Missing Custom graphics options - Missing Community tools: DServer - Missing Community tools: FMB Out of the top of my head it is that.
Sim Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 A solid 10 around 3 weeks ago. -3 for unlocks and campaign. +1 future prospects. = 8
Y-29.Silky Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 4/10 because it has nothing exceptional. Graphics: Is okay for 2014, could be better some textures in the cockpits are horrible and without sweet fx its just looking bad. Technical Background/Flight models: Yeah I expect this from a flight simulation in 2014 that their FM/DM are the newest iteration possible done so nothing special, even some bad points regarded to the unbelievable flying behaviour of the Yak-1 with a phenomenal energy retention and the IL2 which is still controlable with 20 km/h. Furthermore: Cherry Picking from the Devs. Multiplayer: Great potential but nothing great delivered yet/it has to be delivered from the community so yeah only plus is it is stable... oh and Skin-System is horrible bad. Horrible graphics and textures, bad flight models, what game are you comparing this too? Because that would be one game I would spend over 99 dollars for..
Anw.StG2_Tyke Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 Horrible graphics and textures, bad flight models, what game are you comparing this too? Because that would be one game I would spend over 99 dollars for.. Well, I never stated horrible graphics, but come on the Graphics are not that outstanding when I compare them to other games from other genres. They are okay, and some textures are not that nice for example in the VVS Planes the cockpit interior wall its all a low res texture. Never said bad flight models, I just said that what most people here are pushing into heaven is something I expect from a game in the year 2014. And I gave you examples of what is wrong in some kind of the FM and that there is a lot do work on. Look at the Damage-Model topic recently started... Funnily, I don't compare this game to another game. I never compare games when I have to say my opinion about them because it is in my opinion wrong to compare games to say some is better than others. Look how many people are comparing Call of Duty with Battlefield and are bitchfighting about their opinions one does this better and one does that better. That leads only to bitchfithing. In my opinion every game has to match my expectations and has to prove that Iam satisfied with the product. And I'am sorry to say that but IL-2 BoS does nothing outstandingly great in my opinion. Am I harsh and have a too high level of expectations? Yes sure I have and Iam but the great thing is, you doesn't have to care about what I think and what I write as long as I say it is my opinion. Oh and a game which would be a 8/10 in my opinion, I would spend like 200-300 US$ on it. Because I have some great design elements in mind which would bring the Flight Simulation Games really on a new evolution step. 1
VBF-12_Stick-95 Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 As I see it currently. 10 - Potential Total Score -2 - Unlock system. I see this as a negative to the overall game which should not be overlooked and will effect reviews upon release. -1 - Lack of some sort of quick mission generator for mp. -2 - Current sp campaign. Should be similar to ROF, i.e., career based, squadron, rank, medals, etc (If this is the largest segment of their customer base, I think they missed the mark). +1 - Overall quality of the game, i.e., flight/damage models, graphic quality, effects, ground details, etc. Better than anticipated. +1 - Growth potential. Enough structural flexibility to allow third parties to take this to another level, both for sp and mp. 7 - Current Score
Nil Posted October 22, 2014 Author Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) Finally back in business! After a little self-caused 'vacation'..I wish I had included the .5's to the poll, as I first voted 7.. and then an eight.. but really want to put it on 7.5.Without the time-wasting unlock system it would've even gotten an 8.5.Even thou I spout a lot of negativity lately, it's a really solid base to build on, but I think they are aiming at the wrong crowd.And repeatedly changed direction, if we would've been informed about the unlock-systems extent (QM and MP) and even believed that they actually would add it in the first place, I think we would've voiced out opinions a lot earlier.And first wipe of unlocks, now you get to keep them!?, so the new people have even a greater disadvantage, (aside from the 1 year disadvantage) when they are trying to taxi the plane to the runway, they get a nice unlocked 2500kg bomb in their seat.I have on the other hand changed my bitterness about the forced campaign, and now see it as a .. kind of flight school, that I guess some will have use and/or need of, even if they don't admit it (mainly the newer crowd (that hopefully come at launch)) .. I still don't like to be forced, or play in-game minigames in a sim. Edited October 22, 2014 by Pigmachine
Nil Posted October 22, 2014 Author Posted October 22, 2014 Thanks to the 102 that participated, and those who stated why they will not do so.Didn't know that the release were so imminent when I started this poll, but I guess we got a pretty decent picture of how it will look at the user ratings.I stated already a long time ago that I already got value for the 100$ I payed for it, and still stand by it.Lets just hope it will be a success enough to be able to haul out new planes and theaters for years to come. (I myself can't really understand the 1-3 votes, as it's the most solid release of a flightsim in a long time, unlocks and all, but on the other hand I wouldn't even rate WT a 1, and that might sound silly to some)
-NW-ChiefRedCloud Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 I voted 7 ...... they'll be squishing bugs still for awhile and making improvements but it works .... Chief
CPSWolff Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 For over 10 years people have been playing IL2 coop. My group now has over 600 missions in our library and fly every night. This lack of coop in this game is a hugh loss for us and several have decided to drop BOS for that reason. Such a shame for a game with such great potential.
II/JG17_HerrMurf Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 Once the DSERV/FMB is up, coops will be created (by the community). It has been stated several times coops can be done with the digital nature engine. They just aren't labeled, "coop." No DSERV yet so no coop yet. Give it a few weeks.
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