La-5 Always on Fire!

[SAG]

Hello EVERY time i get hit whilst flying on an La-5 i instantly bursts into flames, is this a bug or Poor DM or did the plane simply was a flying fireball in RL??

[SAG]

how? i mean, every time?? while flying other planes i sometimes get hit on my fuel tank, wing or somewhere else, not always i burst into flames. 

what could i be doing wrong?

[BraveSirRobin]

The devs have a bias against Russian aircraft.

[StickMan]

what could i be doing wrong?

It's quite simple. The solution is not to let as many 20mm HE rounds hit your aircraft next time you fly. Aircraft tend not to burn as much when HE ammo isn't exploding inside them. Something about fuel, fuel vapors, oil, sparks and machinery not reacting well with high explosive rounds or something like that, I think.

[6./ZG26_5tuka]

Radial engines are not imlpemented suffitiently implemented currently DM wise. Both the 190 aas well as the La-5 tend to take as fast engine damage as the inline planes ingame. At least incase of the 190 this is plainly wrong (though not point of the topic).

 

Maybe you should specify on this issue a little. Is it wing fuel tank or engine fires you encounter? It used to have an extraordinary tendency of wing fuel tank fires though I'm not sure it got fixed since than.

[MarcoRossolini]

I'm always on fire no matter what I fly!

[Finkeren]

The devs have a bias against Russian aircraft.

Oh snap!

[=362nd_FS=Hiromachi]

I must admit that it is the only plane in game I could call lighter. I flew same interceptions in 109's, Yak's, FW-190 and the only plane that burns so often is La 5. Of course as everyone I make mistakes, but I made them also with other planes. I don't recall burning in 109 (though loosing engine happened) or 190. The La 5 burns quite often though, it happens when enemy fighters hit you and even gunners from Ju 87. Particularly that is weird since few bullets cannot cause fire. I am not sure, however I thought La 5 had somehow protected fuel tanks. Also low caliber rounds simply need to hit quite a few times, to cause a substantial leak and ignite the fuel. The oxygen component to sustain fire must exceed 16% of air inside the wing ... few hits from Ju 87 are not enough to kill engine or cause fire.

 

If would be than Ju 87 would be considered as a dangerous plane. And it was not, the protection was minimal, and even back in 1939 plane suffered losses. I personally love Stuka, but would never call it well protected. 

 

One way or another. La 5 from my personal experience tends to catch fire much easier than any other warbird I flew in game. It also looses engine quite easily. Easier than I would expect it from radial. I presume it has unfinished damage model.

[SR-F_Winger]

The devs have a bias against Russian aircraft.

LOL. Look how russian planes perform and you clearly know that russian aircraft really get away more than decent in this sim.

(I am not saying theyre overmodeled but definately not undermodeled).

Edited October 20, 2014 by VSG1_Winger

[SAG]

It's quite simple. The solution is not to let as many 20mm HE rounds hit your aircraft next time you fly. Aircraft tend not to burn as much when HE ammo isn't exploding inside them. Something about fuel, fuel vapors, oil, sparks and machinery not reacting well with high explosive rounds or something like that, I think.

 

Then please do explain why this only happens as often on the la-5's gasoline...

 

 

Yes, to be more specific, i alwayas get fires from the wings.

 

I started this thread because i bought the la;5 a couple days ago and wish to know more about it (or if im doing something wron with it) and no to be reminded on how bad of a pilot i am.

 

Despite being often shot down on MP i am not that bad of a pilot. I asked because the ONLY plane on which i always catch fire when shot is the La-5 either in SP or MP

Edited October 20, 2014 by jsags

[6./ZG26_5tuka]

Did you test different fuel settings yet? Maybe this might solve your issue partly.

 

Haven't personally flown it often since months but seems like it's the same bug.

 

Lagg-3 had same fuel system and wings as the La-5 and yet didn't ever have this issue.

[SR-F_Winger]

When i get shot down in MP its either with a missing wing OR burning.

Solution: Dont get hit:)

[SAG]

Did you test different fuel settings yet? Maybe this might solve your issue partly.

 

Haven't personally flown it often since months but seems like it's the same bug.

 

Lagg-3 had same fuel system and wings as the La-5 and yet didn't ever have this issue.

i will try different fuel settings and try to get shot at. ill report back! :D thanks

[71st_AH_Mastiff]

wasn't the LA5 a radial engine and you could get hit in 1 cylinder and still keep going?

 

compared to what we have now.

Edited October 21, 2014 by 71st_Mastiff

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

 I bet the planes will catch fire if you pump 20mm HE rounds up it's hiney. I have shot offline those pesky VVS planes and you need to hit well to create fire. Usually a leak or engine damage, but if you hit that leaking wing again = fire!

[Trooper117]

I can just see the next update...

 

1. Fixed... La-5 no longer catches fire.

[SAG]

I can just see the next update...

 

1. Fixed... La-5 no longer catches fire

so is it a bug or are you just saying that they tweak however they want without taking into acount historical reference?

 

im just trying to know if its modeled correctly in game (how EASY it catches fire in comparison to the rest of the planes in the game, at least the russian ones)

[Trooper117]

Bloody hell, it was just humour for gods sake...

 

I don't know if its a bug... but I did find it humorous that for once someone was complaining about a characteristic on a SOVIET plane... lol!

[SAG]

Sorry for that, i was not trying to sound aggresive, i was just asking because i was unsure of the meaning of your answer

[FuriousMeow]

LOL. Look how russian planes perform and you clearly know that russian aircraft really get away more than decent in this sim.

(I am not saying theyre overmodeled but definately not undermodeled).

 

[Bussard_x]

This is true, La-5 catches fire much easier than the LaGG-3. I assume both have comparable tanks.

[=362nd_FS=Hiromachi]

S!

 

 I bet the planes will catch fire if you pump 20mm HE rounds up it's hiney. I have shot offline those pesky VVS planes and you need to hit well to create fire. Usually a leak or engine damage, but if you hit that leaking wing again = fire!

Unless you have flown yourself its really not objective to judge. I have unlocked all "upgrades" with La 5 flying campaign and even Ju 87 gunners manage to set afire La 5. Attacking He 111 was not easy either. Many times with 70+ degrees climbs under the He 111 (I just flew under one, and when was a bit in front of it pulled up aiming for bomb bay and engines) gunner scored hits and killed pilots/set bird afire. 

 

 

This is true, La-5 catches fire much easier than the LaGG-3. I assume both have comparable tanks.

I believe this La-5 (early after all) and LaGG 3 have same wing structure and so the fuel tank position is same. 

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

 To be exact the very first La-5's did have same fuel tanks as LaGG-3 and NO slats in the wings. Type 37/ Series 8 had the outmost tanks removed and slats installed.