The Battle of Darwin

[Uriah]

The Battle of Darwin

 

That might make a good next add on for the series.  It would include Japanese planes and British planes like the Spitfire.

Our Aussi mates would it.

[ShamrockOneFive]

It's an interesting battle but it's extremely limited. RAAF pilots basically flew intercepts against the big Japanese raids... mostly Spitfires versus A6Ms with some D3As and G4Ms. Maybe the Ki-43 and the Ki-21 too (I think they flew one raid?). But what else would there be to do or fly? Australian bombers and attack aircraft were based a couple hundred kilometres away in New Guinea.

 

I've been thinking (thanks to the IL-2 1946 4.13 patch) that New Guinea is the most interesting Pacific front area. Mix of US Army, Australian and Japanese forces using a variety of aircraft from level and dive bombing to all of the custom and standard fitted straffers, the Beaufighter/Beaufort duo, P-40s everywhere. The only problem is the many hundreds of kilometers from Wewak to Rabaul to Port Morseby or Milne Bay to really make it all encompassing.

[sturmkraehe]

I think Pacific should come - either after Mediterranian theater or right after Eastern front theater. But lets explore Eastern front a little bit. I hope we will get a scenario where the forces are a bit more even with more modern vvs fighters first before we move on. But before we can talk about addons we should make this sim a success - that is it has to generate enough profits to continue the journey.

[Gambit21]

Yeah Darwin isn't where you want to focus - The Slot is where you want to focus.

 

It's an interesting battle but it's extremely limited. RAAF pilots basically flew intercepts against the big Japanese raids... mostly Spitfires versus A6Ms with some D3As and G4Ms. Maybe the Ki-43 and the Ki-21 too (I think they flew one raid?). But what else would there be to do or fly? Australian bombers and attack aircraft were based a couple hundred kilometres away in New Guinea.

 

I've been thinking (thanks to the IL-2 1946 4.13 patch) that New Guinea is the most interesting Pacific front area. Mix of US Army, Australian and Japanese forces using a variety of aircraft from level and dive bombing to all of the custom and standard fitted straffers, the Beaufighter/Beaufort duo, P-40s everywhere. The only problem is the many hundreds of kilometers from Wewak to Rabaul to Port Morseby or Milne Bay to really make it all encompassing.

 

Yep, and Henderson - that's where the rubber meets the road in the Pacific.

[LukeFF]

They aren't going to jump to an entirely new theater for the next major addition to the game. C'mon people, use some logic here.

Edited October 18, 2014 by LukeFF

[IIN8II]

Yeah I think plenty more eastern front then the Mediterranean, I think all the German desert camos may be a clue.

[Gambit21]

They aren't going to jump to an entirely new theater for the next major addition to the game. C'mon people, use some logic here.

 

Yep

 

Watching the Eastern Front get fleshed out is equal amounts of fun anyway.

Rata's, lend lease P40's and P39's.

Good stuff.

Edited October 18, 2014 by Gambit21

[=362nd_FS=Hiromachi]

New Guinea is nice idea but if you wish to feel true heat of Pacific you should pick 1943/1944 New Britain ( Fortress Rabaul - complex of airfield), New Ireland (Kavieng Air Base), Nissan Island and Bougainville. A huge theater of more than 1100 miles with heat of battle every day. 

And all is there - Zeros, D3A's, D4Y's, G4M ... and all the IJA stuff also. From the US side you would have F4F/FM-2, P-38, F4U, B-24 ... all one can dream about. 

 

For the Port Darwin you would have for the RAAF and RAF only tropical variant of Spitfires Mk Vc  (called by Australians "Capstan"). Japanese would have a mix of Zeros - A6M2 - A6M3 and G4M1. Would be easy to start but not best choice for map. One would have to fly few hundred miles over ocean to get to Port Darwin. For hardcore simmers not a problem, but for others it would be an issue. 

 

Personally I think this Il-2 would work great with Pacific birds. But for now I think we will explore more Eastern Front, Kuban and Finland would be interesting. 

Edited October 18, 2014 by =LD=Hiromachi

[APIKalimba]

Battle or Darwin ?

 

Nice : Evolution VS Creationism... That should be epic !

 

:-)

Edited October 18, 2014 by Kalimba

[pilotpierre]

See here, one is on the way

 

http://kotpbopm.proboards.com

[=362nd_FS=Hiromachi]

Its not even the beginning. They guy is lone, for now getting more knowledge and experience. No team, no money...

 

I dont think there will be any simulator dedicated at least partially to the Pacific in next 5 years or even 10, considering that we didnt have many before.  Sadly, but thats the reality. Though I will keep an eye kotpbopm.

[Feathered_IV]

Darwin may be a bit limited. I'd rather the heavyweight slugging match against Rabaul.

[[KG]Destaex]

Med is what I want.

[Tyberan]

I'd love to see RAAF orientated missions in the pacific in this game, BUT I'd rather see the Devs flesh out more of the Eastern Front first.  

[YSoMadTovarisch]

Most likely the devs will just focus on fleshing out the Eastern front, imo it's disappointing really because we'll mostly fly the same thing only with better performance, handle a bit better(in case of Russian planes) or worse (in case of German planes), the only thing that'll make a difference is lend lease aircrafts but I don't think their additions are guaranteed.

 

I'd rather see a new theater that involved a lot of medium-high altitude fighting to be honest, we've already have too many games that have fighting near the lawn.

Edited October 19, 2014 by GrapeJam

[Cybermat47]

I wouldn't really care about a Battle of Darwin add-on. It wasn't an important battle in the grand scheme of things, and I don't think the RAAF saw any significant action. I was reading an interview with an IJN pilot, and he said that during the battle he just watched the bombers go to work, as he and his fellow fighter pilots were unnecessary thanks to the absence of the RAAF.

 

They aren't going to jump to an entirely new theater for the next major addition to the game. C'mon people, use some logic here.

Agreed, the next map will most likely be a battle on the Eastern front that took place at the same time as Stalingrad.

Edited October 19, 2014 by Cybermat47

[YSoMadTovarisch]

Agreed, the next map will most likely be a battle on the Eastern front that took place at the same time as Stalingrad.

Hope it will be Kuban, aerial fighting in Kuban during the early-mid 1943 period was among the fiercest ever on the Eastern front, and we'll get to see quite a lot of Lend-lease aircrafts including Spitfires.

 

But everybody knows about Stalingrad but nobody knows about Kuban, even thought the aerial fighting in Kuban was much fiercer =/. TBH I think the devs focused on the BoS for this particularly reason.

Edited October 19, 2014 by GrapeJam

[SOLIDKREATE]

Its not even the beginning. They guy is lone, for now getting more knowledge and experience. No team, no money...

 

I dont think there will be any simulator dedicated at least partially to the Pacific in next 5 years or even 10, considering that we didnt have many before.  Sadly, but thats the reality. Though I will keep an eye kotpbopm.

 

 

I am alone for now. I think however once I release a flight physics demo, things will change. The first aircraft will be the CA-12. However it wont be the starting plane.

 

[[KWN]T-oddball]

[SYN_Mike77]

ugh, that looks so plastic.  Is it an old sim?

[79_vRAF_Friendly_flyer]

Hope it will be Kuban, aerial fighting in Kuban during the early-mid 1943 period was among the fiercest ever on the Eastern front, and we'll get to see quite a lot of Lend-lease aircrafts including Spitfires.

 

Not to mention an interesting map with a bit of relief to the terrain. 

[6./ZG26_5tuka]

Old screenshot of an dated CloD sequel planed back when it was still developed. It was called "Battle of Moskau" and got mentioned several time on this forum now.

[[KWN]T-oddball]

Old screenshot of an dated CloD sequel planed back when it was still developed. It was called "Battle of Moskau" and got mentioned several time on this forum now.

 

That is the same model you are flying in this game....it's just flyng over the england map

 

ugh, that looks so plastic.  Is it an old sim?

so you think the lagg 3 in BOS looks plastic?

 

 

.p.s posted that pic in the wrong subject ...oops

map.

Edited October 19, 2014 by T-oddball

[migmadmarine]

No, it's been said before that the BOM models were not converted over for BOS, IIRC. 

[Feathered_IV]

The modeller who did the I-16 for the failed MMO project said recently that 777 now owns the model. Could be a good addition for a BoS prequel.

[LukeFF]

 

 

That is the same model you are flying in this game....it's just flyng over the england map

 

It's not the exact same model. The gunsight alone is proof of that.