7./Sch.G.2_Stublerone Posted October 19, 2014 Posted October 19, 2014 "7./Sch.G.2_Stublerone" @Devs: Concerning Oculus support. Please consider not to serve several dozens in this community with a crappy dev kit of the Oculus as release is still 1 year in the future....and still not polished up to palmer and also in my opinion. I appeeciate your opinion and that there are some features we need other than Oculus Rift support , but it doesn't mean that we shouldn't get OR support at all. Some of us are waiting since August to see BoS in Oculus Rift.I am aware of DK2's limitations but it doesn't mean its not usable for me , I have fun in DCS duelling Mustang against Dora , and believe that BoS would be even more fun as it looks better and has better effects like fire and smoke. I recently purchased Sabre jet in DCS and it looks amazing in DK2 , very high detail cockpit and all the gauges are clearly visible and easy to read. There is many ways to enjoy flightsims , SP , MP , one screen , triple screens , buttkickers , motion platforms , Oculus Rift , force feedback joysticks , expensive rudder pedals. Just because you are not satisfied with DK2 doesn't mean I wouldn't like it in BoS , so please stop harassing devs with your anti Oculus support opinions. As a one monitor user I could say the same about triple screen , don't work on it because let's say 4K is better. I won't because I want as many people enjoy the way they want to play as possible. I am not harassing. I am telling them, that the DK 2 users bought dev builds and that means, we...the community..doesnt need that support urgently as someone here required. Triple screen users wait until the beginning of playable content. I am not only not satisfied with the DK2 as a flight sim equipment as it is low quality. I am more than sure (also the founder Palmer as well), that it simply takes another good amount of time to make the Rift working in standard games with a bit of graphical finesse. So, we will see good Rifts coming to market in 1-2 years. So, why embrazing only dozens of people that bought the Oculus just by looking its progress. Remember: The Rift you have is a dev built. And that is, what simply makes most of the other guys in the community angry. It is technical not very good, it still needs several years and we currently only have builts, that people ONLY should buy to try out, what this all about OR build a game by themselves. You have bought the Oculus with the wrong purpose. You wanted to show your money and were interested. Now you require a small group of 5-10 people here in the community getting supported as quickly as possible and several hundred users with triple screen (which is currently also much more competitive and out since decades) do not get any support for their setup? Sorry, but huge egoism is talking perhaps....Otherwise, with careful evaluation, noone with dk2 (based on the purpose of that dk2 sale) should request to get serviced before the current problems are not targeted. We have enough other problems than supporting a device that is in alpha stages!!! Sorry, but I guess you bought it with the wrong purpose in mind. And yes: Even the Oculus devs say, that it is crap and they must work on several things. And then you also need the other gear to serve good fps and a good experience for the Rift. And that simply will take a lot of time...STILL!! And there is nothing to discuss about, because most of us dk2 users are aware, that we bought a beta product with a lot of glitches. And yes: Technically the DK2 is not playable for flying competitively or to fly sufficient. These are problems we should all be aware of. And please: No personal opinion here is asked. We need a mature evaluation. And most guys wont fly BOS with a DK2 Rift as it looks crap like hell. You can read gauges...but barely and you always see the dots...and you dont see plane dots in game sufficiently. Guys who fly multiplayer will never touch this as they would perform pretty bad in a resolution of 960x1080 per eye (minus the hundreds of pixels you will lose due to the lenses and minus the problem of the optics to make every dot very noticeable; AND you use 960 to server you a widescreen, which would need 1920 pixels....sorry but even this 3d technique is the worse one currently). So, I will say it again: @Devs: Not mess time with Oculus right now (do it in 2-3 months). Use your time to serve triple screen support and work on the content and the claims, that BoS is producing. There are several of them that makes the game not longterm flyable for the community. So, you have still the chance, but you need to focus. Thank you very much.
Jade_Monkey Posted October 19, 2014 Posted October 19, 2014 I'm a bit frustrated with the crashes at the end of the missions. After a good flight it's disappointing to see the game freeze and not earn any xp. It's been happening very frequently, almost as id I have to celebrate when I end a mission without crashing. Other than that I'm loving the game so far.
7./Sch.G.2_Stublerone Posted October 19, 2014 Posted October 19, 2014 Edit to the 4k topic: And to the 4k vs triple screen: I see, that you probably dont have the technical background and what triple screen adds, which a 4k resolution not adds. Let us take your wrong resolution thing aside, as it is totally wrong on pretty much every triple screen. A 4k monitor has usually a higher pixel density on a smaller space. And it usually has 3840 x 2160pixels in a common format. So, it only adds sharpness and as games are often programmed to grow its field of view with higher resolutions you have possibly a bigger field of view than normal monitors. ..And now? First of all your card cannot serve you with sufficient fps. Second is that those panels currently are too slow and cannot serve for gaming as well (at least not for fps games). And now to the third point: Triple screen is not there to enhance your pixel density or your sharp picture. It serves you a peripheral view simulation. And as they have aspect ratios of 48:9 with a simulated, curved setup, you dont use them only to see more to left and right, but also use them to make the impression of peripheral view, gets you more into the game and it feels faster. If you only stare on one screen, you will never reach this immersion. And by the way: My triple screen setup can possibly run a resolution of 7680 (instead of 3840 in 4k) x 1440 (instead of 2160). The 4k has ONLY the task to get a sharper picture. Depending on how big the screen (4k TV) you still cannot play games as a) not built for games (bad latency/response times) and b) you not even reach the pixel density of a modern 2560x1440 display. So, setup yourself in front of a high end monitor or sit in front of a 4k TV (same distance) and your PC monitor is sharper. This changes with 4k displays on smaller panels. But rest is like we say in Germany "catching the farmer", if you only consider to use it as a monitor. We have no 4k contents, we will have problems to get regular content with 4k displays and so on....sorry but it will take some years. And a triple screen resolution is better than current 4 k resolutions in various ways. And it simply doesnt have the same purpose. You would probably know that, if you would have taken some minutes and get the sense behind it or the technical information... Sorry, but...totally wrong.
Magnum11 Posted October 19, 2014 Posted October 19, 2014 Anyone having trouble with 190 AI's Spinning in circles or not being able to Take off in Campaigns also they sit on runway and you can't get landing clearance returning for mission....
Mikey Posted October 19, 2014 Posted October 19, 2014 Anyone having trouble with 190 AI's Spinning in circles or not being able to Take off in Campaigns also they sit on runway and you can't get landing clearance returning for mission.... Idk if its just me but i have to sit on the runway for a minute or 2 before my tail gear locks pressing the button more than once doesn't speed it up either and this is after my plane is started up and ready to go pretty much. I still spin regardless of the tail wheel being locked sometimes.
VR-DriftaholiC Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 (edited) *meaningless ramble* You don't need to come here to push your agenda. The dev's have already stated they've begun work on Oculus support and that it's better than borsh and cream. Whatever that is Edited October 20, 2014 by driftaholic
Magnum11 Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 Idk if its just me but i have to sit on the runway for a minute or 2 before my tail gear locks pressing the button more than once doesn't speed it up either and this is after my plane is started up and ready to go pretty much. I still spin regardless of the tail wheel being locked sometimes. Thanks Mikey..... Maybe Developers will look into this?
Mikey Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 Thanks Mikey..... Maybe Developers will look into this? -I have not flown 190 that much maybe for a total of 3 hours so there hasnt been many landings and takeoffs but now id say about %50 of the time i can take off i think it just takes practice. -I will fly 190 tonight and test see what is up and try some different keybindings and see if that helps with the delay i seem to have. -I will note that a month ago and before that time %50 time my gear wouldnt go up in 190, that does not happen anymore since a 3-4 weeks ago-now i can actually fly 190 -now this tail lock delay I think it may just be a small bug with controls/with the tail gear lock.. and I dont see other people with same problem.
Trinkof Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 Anyone having trouble with 190 AI's Spinning in circles or not being able to Take off in Campaigns also they sit on runway and you can't get landing clearance returning for mission.... Yes : with 3 wigmen in 190 I often take off alone ... The AI being crashed at take off .
SR-F_Winger Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 "FW 190 A-3 climb rate was corrected according to the reference data;" what a lie. still underperforming like hell. i have the original BMW-data here (have connections to this company), just did a test. it's ludicrous, in a negative way Not just scream. Post the data and provide it to the devs. If its good data it might actually really help in correcting stuff. 3
II./JG77_Manu* Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 Not just scream. Post the data and provide it to the devs. If its good data it might actually really help in correcting stuff. yeah i did already write to Han. Didn't wanna open another "190-topic" in the early access, but if you are interested i can send you all the data (real life <-> in-game)
Elanus Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 Idk if its just me but i have to sit on the runway for a minute or 2 before my tail gear locks pressing the button more than once doesn't speed it up either and this is after my plane is started up and ready to go pretty much. I still spin regardless of the tail wheel being locked sometimes. Mikey, on 190 you lock the tail gear by pulling the stick, not not by pressing the button.
Trooper117 Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 Yes mate... pull your stick back towards you to lock the tail wheel
novicebutdeadly Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 (edited) yeah i did already write to Han. Didn't wanna open another "190-topic" in the early access, but if you are interested i can send you all the data (real life <-> in-game) Perhaps what you are finding, is that in game all the German planes are "old crates" and so you will never get in game what was in real life (for a brand new factory fresh aircraft). Edited October 20, 2014 by novicebutdeadly
II./JG77_Manu* Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 Perhaps what you are finding, is that in game all the German planes are "old crates" and so you will never get in game what was in real life (for a brand new factory fresh aircraft). the 109s are definitely not old crates, and are performing like hell. but the 190 should be the same
novicebutdeadly Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 the 109s are definitely not old crates, and are performing like hell. but the 190 should be the same I haven't checked since the last update, but prev the oil level on both the 109 F and the 190 was always at "low" which seemed to explain the engines lack of durability.
Matt Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 All planes in BoS are modelled as new planes. The oil/fuel pressure gauges seem to not be working properly on some planes.
novicebutdeadly Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 All planes in BoS are modelled as new planes. The oil/fuel pressure gauges seem to not be working properly on some planes. I remember reading somewhere on here (not on this thread) that the Germans planes are modeled as though they are to a degree battle weary, whereas the soviet planes are factory fresh (as part of historical accuracy). I am more than happy to be proven wrong, after all it means that I am learning something new
StG2_Manfred Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 yeah i did already write to Han. Didn't wanna open another "190-topic" in the early access, but if you are interested i can send you all the data (real life <-> in-game) Hi Celestiale, I would really appreciate if you could send me these data! Many thanks in advance!
Dakpilot Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 One set of data....from one aircraft there are many sets of data from the same type of official factory 109 performance tests on one type of 109 model that have a 20% spread of max min....this is why FM/performance arguments will never end Cheers Dakpilot
Matt Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 I remember reading somewhere on here (not on this thread) that the Germans planes are modeled as though they are to a degree battle weary, whereas the soviet planes are factory fresh (as part of historical accuracy). I am more than happy to be proven wrong, after all it means that I am learning something new You can read a lot on these forums, but the devs themselves have made it pretty clear, that all planes are modelled as new. 1
s8n Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 PLZ do something with triple screens....i'm sure there are enough of us to warrant some kind of joy here... FTT~
Feathered_IV Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 "FW 190 A-3 climb rate was corrected according to the reference data;" what a lie. still underperforming like hell. i have the original BMW-data here (have connections to this company), just did a test. it's ludicrous, in a negative way I wish you never even got the effing 190. 1
novicebutdeadly Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 I wish you never even got the effing 190. LOL and I reckon you are also a fellow Aussie!!!
II./JG77_Manu* Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 I wish you never even got the effing 190. If it was a Boomerang, i think you would also fight to get it right
novicebutdeadly Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 (edited) If it was a Boomerang, i think you would also fight to get it right Actually how a Boomarang flies depends on the size, shape, weight, airfoil, how much wind, angel of throw, weight of throw, throw style, and sometimes plain old luck Edited October 20, 2014 by novicebutdeadly 1
NN_RugbyGoth Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 Actually how a Boomarang flies depends on the size, shape, weight, airfoil, how much wind, angel of throw, weight of throw, throw style, and sometimes plain old luck I bet he was refering to THIS Boomerang : 1
Trooper117 Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 I'd like to see you pick that up and throw it then!
SYN_Blackrat Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 Server wipe tomorrow... http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/11906-master-server-maintenance-october-21st/?p=183722
NN_RugbyGoth Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 Server wipe tomorrow... http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/11906-master-server-maintenance-october-21st/?p=183722 Is this the before release wipe or will we have another wipe in some weeks?
Zak Posted October 20, 2014 Author Posted October 20, 2014 This is the only wipe that we need to do. No plans for any more.
I/JG27_Rollo Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 Server wipe tomorrow... http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/11906-master-server-maintenance-october-21st/?p=183722 Ok, I'll handle the complaining part once more: "OMG, my entire three-mission-progress will be wiped? How could you? I think I spider! This give it not!" There, complaining done in the name of all of us. Looking forward to new versions now. 1
Feathered_IV Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 Sooner is better than later with the wipe.
Finkeren Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 It's perfectly fine. We all knew it was coming. It has the added benefit that anything we do in campaign from now on will count 'for real', which is all the more incentive to play. Zak: Can you tell us if any updates are planned to come alongside the wipe? Ok, we've just cancelled the wipe. Que? Does that mean it's been cancelled for now or cancelled altogether??
Zak Posted October 20, 2014 Author Posted October 20, 2014 Can you tell us if any updates are planned to come alongside the wipe? As I said, we've cancelled it so anyone could save their progress. About the updates - there won't be any until Wednesday. And I don't know yet what's coming up, Finkeren. 1
LLv44_Mprhead Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 Ok, we've just cancelled the wipe. does this mean, that there will be no wipe at all, or is it delayed? because with wipe, sooner is definitely better than later. As I said, we've cancelled it so anyone could save their progress. So I take it won't happen at all?
Zak Posted October 20, 2014 Author Posted October 20, 2014 does this mean, that there will be no wipe at all, or is it delayed? because with wipe, sooner is definitely better than later. This means that the wipe that we kinda planned has been cancelled. And we don't plan to do it. 8
Feathered_IV Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 (edited) Not ever? Phew! I just got the Zub skin for the Il-2 last night. Glad not to loose it. Edited October 20, 2014 by Feathered_IV
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