CisTer-dB- Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 (edited) I don't know witch one I have to map? My guess is that the 3rd and 4th Oil Rad are in fact Water Rad isn't o7 Edited October 17, 2014 by 71st_AH_dB
39bn_pavig Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 Looks like we may have had a bad update The combined axes usually map to an analog controller (knob or throttle) and the seperate axes map to buttons. Like this: Oil Radiators shutters open / oil radiators shutters close - map these to buttons/keys if you want button control Oil Radiators shutters control - map this to a knob/slider/etc if you have a HOTAS with spare controls Same with water radiators, cowling etc. I was going to suggest you re install but i looked and found it is the same in mine, so we must have had a bad update over the last few days.
CisTer-dB- Posted October 17, 2014 Author Posted October 17, 2014 You are right I can't operate none of the rads.
71st_AH_Mastiff Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 one oil shutter controls are for the aircraft like PE-2, on HE111 I think they have 2, so make sure you get the adjustments right. the DEV crew are also aware of some of the control issues and I hope they fix them.
GridiroN Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 Personally, I set my oil and water radiator to one of the radial knobs on my X55 Rhino and I never had a problem with it. Global rads that is, not individual engine rads. It's rare that you'd want to open your oil but close your water as they tend to overheat at the same time unless you're going for ultra/super realism gameplay, so I just bound them to the same knob and open everything at once.
39bn_pavig Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 Oil and water on separate knobs here (especially with the x55 which has knobs aplenty). Different planes have different responses for each system. Some are designed to have water rads open all the time and only closed during protracted dives to prevent overcooling etc. There's plenty of reasons to keep them seperate, but if you are more interested in an intermediate step between normal and expert mode engine management I guess it makes sense.
CisTer-dB- Posted October 20, 2014 Author Posted October 20, 2014 But there is 4 oil rad switch? Witch one I map. I think 1 for open and 1 for close should do not 4. Mastiff it is for a twin engine them it should be name as such ie: Oil rad engine number 2.
CisTer-dB- Posted October 20, 2014 Author Posted October 20, 2014 What I mean if you look at the screenshot there is 4 (oil) radiator without even looking at the (water) radiator
jaydee Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 What I mean if you look at the screenshot there is 4 (oil) radiator without even looking at the (water) radiator Db, the First two Oil rads Should be WATER rads . Its a mistake. They only apply to the 109 water Rads. But first you have to switch to Manual Rad operation. They are operated by a Switch near your Right Knee in the cockpit. No water Rad Axis,just open close/auto. Hope this helps mate.
CisTer-dB- Posted October 20, 2014 Author Posted October 20, 2014 Db, the First two Oil rads Should be WATER rads . Its a mistake. They only apply to the 109 water Rads. But first you have to switch to Manual Rad operation. They are operated by a Switch near your Right Knee in the cockpit. No water Rad Axis,just open close/auto. Hope this helps mate. Thanks jaydee for the reply, ok lets say that I fly the yak, it does have two type, the oil and then the water rad, right? Then I should map the first two one's into Water rad ( open and close) then the last two into oil rad's? I don't follow you with the switch near my right knee. can you mouse clic into the cockpit?
FG28Kodiak Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 (edited) There is an error in the string Table. If you look in the file current.action (..\IL-2 Sturmovik Battle of Stalingrad\data\input) you see the correct descriptions in the first row, the wrong in the last. all_engines_water_radiators_control_mode, key_rshift+key_r, 0| // Switch water radiators control mode: manual/auto all_engines_water_radiators_open, key_r, 0| // Oil radiators: open shutters all_engines_water_radiators_close, key_n, 0| // Oil radiators: close shutters all_engines_oil_radiators_open, key_7, 0| // Oil radiators: open shutters all_engines_oil_radiators_close, key_6, 0| // Oil radiators: close shutters rpc_all_engines_water_radiators_shutters, key_r/key_n, 0| // Water radiators shutters control rpc_all_engines_oil_radiators_shutters, key_7/key_6, 0| // Oil radiators shutters control rpc_all_engines_cowls_shutters, key_9/key_8, 0| // Engines cowl shutters control Btw. Engines cowl shutters is for La-5. rpc_all_engines_water_radiators_shutters, rpc_all_engines_oil_radiators_shutters and rpc_all_engines_cowls_shutters is also usable with an Axis on your Hotas if you like (and the plane supports it) Edited October 20, 2014 by FG28Kodiak
CisTer-dB- Posted October 20, 2014 Author Posted October 20, 2014 (edited) That's copied thank you Edited October 20, 2014 by 71st_AH_dB
CisTer-dB- Posted October 29, 2014 Author Posted October 29, 2014 Well I have try them all none of them work, on my side
=TBAS=NubyWombat Posted November 1, 2014 Posted November 1, 2014 I'm having the same problem dB.... no matter which buttons I map I can't seem to get control of my radiators, with the obvious result that the engines on my He 111 explode after about twenty minutes of flight. All other controls working fine. I'll try copying Kodiak's settings posted above.
=TBAS=NubyWombat Posted November 1, 2014 Posted November 1, 2014 Nope... the game still refuses to give me control of my radiators, both oil and water.... oh, and mixture too....... I'm sure I'm just making some Noob error, because everyone else seems to be having no problems, but I just can't figure out what.
TG-55Panthercules Posted November 1, 2014 Posted November 1, 2014 (edited) Nope... the game still refuses to give me control of my radiators, both oil and water.... oh, and mixture too....... I'm sure I'm just making some Noob error, because everyone else seems to be having no problems, but I just can't figure out what. I've been having some trouble figuring out this radiator stuff too, but I think I now have it straight (at least for the Stuka - haven't tried the other planes to see if this has unintended consequences). It doesn't help that the labeling in the controls screen is really confusing, and it's even worse that on the Stuka at least the cockpit gauge indicator needle doesn't move when you open and close the water radiator before you start the engine (I'm guessing that the gauge indicator requires some power that isn't turned on until partway through the automated startup procedure, because it works once the engine is on). At any rate, here are the assignments I used to put the water radiator on one of my slider levers and the oil radiators on one of my rocker switch button pairs on my Saitek Throttle Quadrant: (I've been told that planes have either water radiator shutters or engine cowl shutters but none have both, so it's OK to map the same command/controller to those two items. One note - if you put the oil radiator on buttons like I did above, you have to press and hold the button down to make the radiator open or close (probably works the same way for the water radiator if you put that on buttons, but haven't checked that). Another point - start a QMB mission in normal mode with tech chat turned on, and you can see (in the tech chat) if your controllers are affecting the radiators properly. Also, you can tell whether the auto-radiator or other auto-helpers are turned on and therefore getting in the way of your being able to control them manually. That was happening to me - not sure how they had gotten turned on but they were, so I used the default key commands to turn them back off - it seems to remember that and leave them off for future missions, so once you get them turned off hopefully that will not recur as a problem for you. Good luck! Edited November 1, 2014 by TG-55Panthercules
=TBAS=NubyWombat Posted November 1, 2014 Posted November 1, 2014 Panthercules, you are a genius sir! I hadn't started in normal mode before so the "Auto-radiators" key wouldn't work... and it was stuck on. I fired it up in normal mode, switched the auto-radiators off, then fired it up in expert mode and I had control of my radiators. Thanks mate, that was getting really frustrating!
CisTer-dB- Posted November 1, 2014 Author Posted November 1, 2014 I am having a X55 Rhino and here is how I circumvent this. My stick can't have 2 keys mapped into 1 control ie RCTRL+Minus so what I did was to delete the default command and create a new one with only one key. Then I mapped into my stick via the Madcatz software. Bellow are what I've mapped in the BoS setting. Noted that 1 and 2 are the water radiator. 3 and 4 are the oil radiators. Important to mapped 1 and 2 with 5 and to mapped 3 and 4 like 6 1-Oil radiator: open shutters (in fact it's the water rads) = 2-Oil radiator: open shutters (in fact it's the water rads) - 3-Oil radiator: open shutters ' 4-Oil radiator: open shutters ; 5-Water radiators shutters control -/= 6-Oil radiator shutters control ;/' A serious pain in the ass I hope it helps o7
Sokol1 Posted November 1, 2014 Posted November 1, 2014 dB You can add "-/=" for "Engine Cowl Shutters" (La5), this plane dont have water radiator, but since the function of "Cowl shutters" is the same: cool the engine, use the same keys.
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