Just a curious question.. about trees.

[Nil]

Why are roads and railways always surrounded by trees, when there are so few in other places?
Did the Russians use ex-freezing gulag workers to carefully plant trees just to give the drivers and train-passengers the feeling of being in a nice wooden area, instead of a damn cold wasteland. And at the same time giving the gulag workers almost a summer holiday.
Or was it a genius purpose since there might be a war coming, and the wanted my virtual Nazi to crash into them during strafing-runs?

No negativity in this post (from me) just curiosity.. as every road and railway are lined up with trees. Did they chop down all of the surrounding forest, just to keep the trees around there?
I don't see the point, a tree here and the ok. but totally surrounded by a (one) layer of trees just seems a bit absurd.

Any constructive reasoning behind it, och just a lets plant trees here, so the damn (in years to come) virtual Nazi Pigmachine misses us and flies into them, since he probably will suck, so this is by far the best defense we can think of!

 

/Сталин

Thoughts and input on the matter would be appreciated. (or threads that already cover the subject) But keep it civil.. not necessarily to me, I can take it, but to the sim and the forum
 

Edited October 14, 2014 by Pigmachine

[moonatic]

i don´t know if the trees where there for real at this time but trees on roads and railways make sense because they cover the fields of the agriculture on wind and sun so that the humic soil don´t lose its fertility. trees clean subterranean water, help orientating at bad sights and preventing snowbanks on the streets.

hope that helps

 

moonatic

 

 

 

 

Edited October 15, 2014 by moonatic

[39bn_pavig]

Trees are cleared from agricultural land, but planted or left on roads and rail tracts to act as wind-breaks to protect crops during storms etc. This is fairly common practice across Europe. 

[oneeyeddog]

Exactly

 

Trees are cleared from agricultural land, but planted or left on roads and rail tracts to act as wind-breaks to protect crops during storms etc. This is fairly common practice across Europe. 

This is exactly how it is where I live also.

[Potenz]

Trees are cleared from agricultural land, but planted or left on roads and rail tracts to act as wind-breaks to protect crops during storms etc. This is fairly common practice across Europe. 

yes that's the main reason for those trees, to stop wind

[Dutch]

Well, you see, back in the past, when Governments first proposed the idea of 'roads', they had to firstly buy the land off the Aristocracy in order to build the road. Then they had to placate both the Aristocracy and the peasants who lived on the land by providing a 'pleasant view', by planting trees all along it.

 

If your name is 'Lord Lucan XIV', you wouldn't want the view from your Gothic balcony spoiled by a stretch of tarmac populated by spotty 17 year-olds in black Vauxhall Corsas, now would you?

 

So, by demand of said Lord Lucan XIV, also the farmers and the spotty youths, the road builders were obliged to plant trees all along any road they built. That's why you see trees alongside every road anywhere.

 

True Story.

 

Edit: In Russia of course, his name would have been 'Tsar Lucanski XIV'. Just thought I'd clarify that one.

Edited October 15, 2014 by Dutch

[RedGuard]

Napoleon got his armies to plant trees alongside roads in France so that future French armies could go on long marches on foot - protected from the summer sun.

I doubt Napoleon had enough time for such a program in Russia though

 

but back on topic, I do tend to fly straight into those darn trees also.

 

Red

[LizLemon]

See how many trees along the road you see; http://www.wwii-photos-maps.com/home_page_008.htm

[Dakpilot]

Are we seriously going to have a debate that there are actually no trees in Southern Russia...maybe there are a few too many along roads...who knows but probably the people who live there know better... at least you can hit them  probably a sensitive subject to some....

 

Cheers Dakpilot

[Obelix]

Napoleon got his armies to plant trees alongside roads in France so that future French armies could go on long marches on foot - protected from the summer sun.

I doubt Napoleon had enough time for such a program in Russia though

 

but back on topic, I do tend to fly straight into those darn trees also.

 

Red

Sorry, but it was before Napoléon, it was Henri II, king of France, who decided this (1552)

[Sokol1]

See how many trees along the road you see; http://www.wwii-photos-maps.com/home_page_008.htm

 

Few:  http://www.wwii-photos-maps.com/stalingradaerialscans/GX2316SK/slides/GX2316SK-002.html

[unreasonable]

People do need firewood for heating and cooking - must have come from somewhere. Then again, I have also read that modern Russia has far greater tree cover than it had in WW2 due to the fall in the rural population. Lots of trees in the Stalingrad scans along the railway cuttings and some of the gullies, cannot see many along the roads though. Maybe they are tall, thin trees?

[Leaf]

Amount of vegetation varies depending on location. In certain locations there are lots of trees, in others there aren't. I mean come on, this is like year 7 Biology/Geography.

Considering the devs scanned aerial reconnaissance photographs, I wouldn't be doubtful of what we see in-game. 

 

And now...
I think in-game vegetation looks tree-mendous! The devs have really started to branch out. It's quite unbeleafable. So don't be a sap and complain about how the trees in-game need to be spruced-up, because this isn't the root of the problems the game is facing. Trees just aren't where the game's issues stem from. The game has really grown on me, and I hope it becomes very poplar. 

[Uufflakke]

Trees are cleared from agricultural land, but planted or left on roads and rail tracts to act as wind-breaks to protect crops during storms etc. This is fairly common practice across Europe. 

 

On the other hand during a storm branches and complete trees might fall on the railway with all it's consequences. And as a European I can't remember to have seen lines of trees near the railway tracks and just fields behind it.

Even when trains run through forest they cut the trees close to the railway to avoid accidents. Trees are lined up along roads indeed. That is quite common in Europe since ages. Something you can see in 17 century paintings by the way.

And Europe is not Russia. So I don't know how situation was there during WWII.

Another difference are roads. Many roads in Europe were paved in WWII in contrary to Russia. That was a reason why the German invasion got slowed down considerably because of all the mud in autumn and when snow melted away (rasputitsa).

Edited October 15, 2014 by Uufflakke

[Nil]

Hehe.. 'You have reached your quota of positive votes for the day' Else most of you would have some

[unreasonable]

And now...

I think in-game vegetation looks tree-mendous! The devs have really started to branch out. It's quite unbeleafable. So don't be a sap and complain about how the trees in-game need to be spruced-up, because this isn't the root of the problems the game is facing. Trees just aren't where the game's issues stem from. The game has really grown on me, and I hope it becomes very poplar.

Thank you for your plane speaking, with luck the game launch will not turn our hopes to ash.

[avlSteve]

Amount of vegetation varies depending on location. In certain locations there are lots of trees, in others there aren't. I mean come on, this is like year 7 Biology/Geography.

Considering the devs scanned aerial reconnaissance photographs, I wouldn't be doubtful of what we see in-game. 

 

And now...

I think in-game vegetation looks tree-mendous! The devs have really started to branch out. It's quite unbeleafable. So don't be a sap and complain about how the trees in-game need to be spruced-up, because this isn't the root of the problems the game is facing. Trees just aren't where the game's issues stem from. The game has really grown on me, and I hope it becomes very poplar. 

We're getting board and wood appreciate that this knot continue.

[unreasonable]

We're getting board and wood appreciate that this knot continue.

Oakay.

[Leaf]

Are we keeping a log of these puns?

[unreasonable]

No, I do not think anyone saw them coming.

[Emgy]

Seeing the same in some CM:Red thunder maps. This is from a map in the Minsk-Pskov region, though.

Edited October 15, 2014 by Calvamos

[Potenz]

the agriculture tree fences is a common use to protect fruit fields from storms and winds when the trees are flowering,

cause even the smallest storm can RUIN the whole production of one year in that crucial time, and strong storms can

knock down all the fruit before is ready to be picked

Edited October 16, 2014 by FlatSpinMan
EDITED BAD LANGUAGE

[RedGuard]

Sorry, but it was before Napoléon, it was Henri II, king of France, who decided this (1552)

 

Thx Obelix,

Nearly 300 years off, ouch

I stand corrected.

 

Red

[FlatSpinMan]

@Liz - thank you for the links to support your post. 

If the devs have time they might perhaps act to remove some of the trees on the map, although it is possible that they might have other priorities. 

[Obelix]

Thx Obelix,

Nearly 300 years off, ouch

I stand corrected.

 

Red

Indeed, it was increased under Louis XV reign (18th century), and of course during Napoleon's reign.

 

Today, it caused 400 dead on road each year.