Friday!

[RedGuard]

More locks to unlock.

Yes please, particularly more desert camos for our Russian winter map

 

Red

[BraveSirRobin]

falstaff, you're looking for things that no development team is ever going to give you.  They're not going to tell you that they going to make the changes you want.  They're also not going to tell you that they're considering making the changes that you want (wink...wink...) because everyone will assume the "wink...wink..." part.  Basically, they're always considering making changes until they tell you they're not.  We know they're not going to make changes between now and release.  They haven't ruled out making changes after release.  If that's not good enough for you, then you're just going to have to deal with it.

[Tyberan]

FMB, I wanna see what the community can make. (have become very disgruntled over the campaign recently)

[ST_ami7b5]

Mouse-aim?

[=SqSq=Sulaco]

Mouse-aim?

And controller support

[LizLemon]

Mouse-aim?

 

Already in game

[Chuck_Owl]

Spent 5 hours in the campaign so far.

 

Sorry for not enjoying it like you do...? For me, it feels like a chore rather than the good time it should be.

Edited October 10, 2014 by 71st_AH_Chuck

[Stallion]

Spent 5 hours in the campaign so far.

 

Sorry for not enjoying it like you do...? For me, it feels like a chore rather than the good time it should be.

 

Spent about the same amount of time.  Unlocked a red skin for my yak (pretty cool), and a sense of disappointment not matched since Halo 4 came out

 

EDIT: Thanks for those guides Chuck!

Edited October 10, 2014 by Beebaboo

[ST_ami7b5]

Spent 5 hours in the campaign so far.

 

Sorry for not enjoying it like you do...? For me, it feels like a chore rather than the good time it should be.

Wow! I stopped after 1 hour.

Thanks for those guides Chuck!

[Yakmaster]

I expect to see dancing ground crew update today, no game can  call it self good game today if it doesn't have dancing humans in it

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

 Got like 9-10hrs now clocked in VVS campaign, Air Bridge part under works. Unlocked LaGG-3 and Yak-1, now on La-5. Next IL-2 and then Pe-2 in last 2 chapters respectively.

[Chuck_Owl]

Wow! I stopped after 1 hour.

Thanks for those guides Chuck!

 

Speaking of which, they're now back online.

 

I can't take these hate mails anymore. I'm about to have a nervous breakdown... so there they are.

 

You guys won. I give up. 

[ST_ami7b5]

^^ OMG

 

I grabbed them as soon as I saw them.

 

1 week ago I was very excited what the new update will bring.

Now I just don't care, because it's too late for a drastical changes which are  needed for SP.

Wish I was wrong.

Edited October 10, 2014 by ST_ami7b5

[oneeyeddog]

Spent 5 hours in the campaign so far.

 

Sorry for not enjoying it like you do...? For me, it feels like a chore rather than the good time it should be.

 Posted by oneeyeddog on Yesterday, 12:03 in General Discussion

After 10 hours of flight time and 24 successful missions I've unlocked all the available skins and weapon mods for both the IL2 and the Yak1. The first 2 chapters are finished and I'm about to start chapter 3. the air bridge.  I've flown in expert mode and I've always taken off from the airfield although I will opt to end the mission early as opposed to going back to my home airfield and landing as i'd rather not risk the chance of losing all my accrued points with a botched landing. At this rate it could take anywhere from 40 to 50 hours to unlock all the skins and mods for all the AC. 

 

Look at the bright side Chuck, you only have another 40 hours, or so, to go until you unlock all the mods. Hell, I bet you can do it in 35.

[LizLemon]

No, it's not. Yet...

 

Maybe not like Ilya Muromets, but you can play BoS with a mouse right now. Or at least I did a couple months ago.

[falstaff]

BraveSirRobin...I don't think there's anything anything unrealistic in that at all, quite the opposite...I dont expect anyone to adapt anything for *me*, but for *us*....I can't be the only one that sees the unlock XP system as a bit juvenile in its current state, or who wants an emersive SP campaign. A quick look at the air in here and SimHQ says the opposite.

 

As for 'dealing with it', well, I am.

 

As I said, we're not spoilt for choice, and I dont think I'm entirely alone in wanting a game, not just a series of components. I can wait. But there's a point - granted - when you say 'You know what, I just cant be bothered any more'. It's no big deal.

 

Admittedly I'd have preferred to know sooner that it was going to work like this (and yes, I've read just about every post and followed it from the start, before we get into a semantic interpretation of past-posts-fest).

 

Flight-sims seem to suffer from this eleventh-hour thing....

Edited October 10, 2014 by falstaff

[ST_ami7b5]

Maybe not like Ilya Muromets, but you can play BoS with a mouse right now. Or at least I did a couple months ago.

 

Try Warthunder to see what mouse-aim means. Its free. And arcade.

[TCSEllis]

Speaking of which, they're now back online.

 

I can't take these hate mails anymore. I'm about to have a nervous breakdown... so there they are.

 

You guys won. I give up. 

 

Ah thank you for bringing them back up, Can't believe you got hate mail.. jeez.

[Chuck_Owl]

^^ OMG

 

 

Overall it's been a very, very bitter and unpleasant experience for me.

[FG28Kodiak]

Unlocked all parts of IL-2 and He-111, Pe-2 before complete.

Feeling like an Unlock-Gulag.

Edited October 10, 2014 by FG28Kodiak

[BraveSirRobin]

I dont expect anyone to adapt anything for *me*, but for *us*...

 

There is no "us".  It's just a herd of angry cats, except cats are probably more patient.

[=SqSq=Sulaco]

Overall it's been a very, very bitter and unpleasant experience for me.

I'm sorry to hear that Chuck, try not to let the few pieces of human garbage ruin the image you have of an otherwise VERY thankful community.

[HeavyCavalrySgt]

I expect to see dancing ground crew update today, no game can  call it self good game today if it doesn't have dancing humans in it

 

Something like this?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=45xDF-P_x3Y#t=7

Overall it's been a very, very bitter and unpleasant experience for me.

 

 

That is very, very disappointing.

[Trooper117]

Speaking of which, they're now back online.

 

I can't take these hate mails anymore. I'm about to have a nervous breakdown... so there they are.

 

You guys won. I give up. 

 

Thanks for putting the guides back up mate... sorry to hear you were getting a hard time of it... don't worry, it'll blow over

[Chuck_Owl]

 

 Posted by oneeyeddog on Yesterday, 12:03 in General Discussion

After 10 hours of flight time and 24 successful missions I've unlocked all the available skins and weapon mods for both the IL2 and the Yak1. The first 2 chapters are finished and I'm about to start chapter 3. the air bridge.  I've flown in expert mode and I've always taken off from the airfield although I will opt to end the mission early as opposed to going back to my home airfield and landing as i'd rather not risk the chance of losing all my accrued points with a botched landing. At this rate it could take anywhere from 40 to 50 hours to unlock all the skins and mods for all the AC. 

 

Look at the bright side Chuck, you only have another 40 hours, or so, to go until you unlock all the mods. Hell, I bet you can do it in 35.

 

 

Speaking of which, they're now back online.

 

I can't take these hate mails anymore. I'm about to have a nervous breakdown... so there they are.

 

You guys won. I give up. 

 

Ah thank you for bringing them back up, Can't believe you got hate mail.. jeez.

 

I'm sorry to hear that Chuck, try not to let the few pieces of human garbage ruin the image you have of an otherwise VERY thankful community.

Something like this?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=45xDF-P_x3Y#t=7

 

 

That is very, very disappointing.

Thanks for putting the guides back up mate... sorry to hear you were getting a hard time of it... don't worry, it'll blow over

 

In all honesty, I don't care anymore. I'm done with this community.

[falstaff]

BraveSirRobin...I think you're 100% wrong.

 

I don't see anger (much) and don't see a billion different grievances. I see disappointment and frustration in fairly well-worn themes with large numbers in each camp. I'd say it's been surprisingly uniform.

 

...and right on cue...Dev Update 82...with what I/plentyof us asked for. Namely..a more conciliatory tone, open acknowledgement of the deficiencies of the SP campaign, and a promise to look at things as time/money allows.

 

It doesn't mean it will all be roses, but it's a good thing, no?

[HeavyCavalrySgt]

In all honesty, I don't care anymore. I'm done with this community.

 :-(

 

Alienating people who devote their time to improving the game for everyone is a poor goal for the community in general, but I hope it was a small but vocal minority.

[BraveSirRobin]

BraveSirRobin...I think you're 100% wrong.

 

 

I'm pretty sure that I'm 100% right.  And the recent freakout over unlockables pretty much proves it.  It's a really crappy idea, but lots of people are completely losing their minds over it.  Same goes for the campaign.  I'm sure it's not what lots of people wanted, but the thing they wanted was never, ever, ever going to happen at release.  And now they're also freaking out.  Other people are sending very angry messages to someone who removed some aircraft guides that he created.

 

A very angry herd of cats.  I am more convinced of that than ever before.

[Gort]

Chuck et al, 

 

You guys might want to take a breath and take a long term perspective. There are always shortsighted and technically ignorant people on forums who think they are more important than they are, just ignore them. They tend to fall apart at the slightest obstacle. You would be amazed at how difficult it can be in the real world, where nothing goes according to plan, and you are ordered to risk your arse without a second thought. Gotta have thick skin and a tough mindset. I could tell you stories for hours on how unfair and vicious it is out there in the real world. Plenty of good history tomes will give you a good picture.

 

This current kerfuffle is nothing- unless your actions make it into something more dire than it really is. Be patient and let the game develop. Find and hang with the decent guys. The rest are energy vampires that get off on making others miserable.

[Leaf]

I'm pretty sure that I'm 100% right.  And the recent freakout over unlockables pretty much proves it.  It's a really crappy idea, but lots of people are completely losing their minds over it.  Same goes for the campaign.  I'm sure it's not what lots of people wanted, but the thing they wanted was never, ever, ever going to happen at release.  And now they're also freaking out.  Other people are sending very angry messages to someone who removed some aircraft guides that he created.

 

A very angry herd of cats.  I am more convinced of that than ever before.

 

I agree. Patience seems to have gone out of the window. I'm fairly confident most people don't like that campaign as it is, but give the devs time.

They want to make a good sim as much as we want to play one.

[soupdragon]

Overall it's been a very, very bitter and unpleasant experience for me.

 

A sad day indeed. Chuck you will be missed mate.  Don't let the bastards grind you down.

 

Hopefully in a few weeks you can take a deep breath and dip you toe again.

 

S!

 

SD

[falstaff]

BSR....well a few folks may be livid, but I'm not among them, and I think they're outnumbered by wiser heads...through experience if nothing else...

 

But I can fully understand why some are chucking it in, like Chuck...but I dont think that can be laid at the feet of some angry cats. Sounds like a mixture of a few fruitcakes and a lacklustre cause. Why don't you ask him?

[Trinkof]

Regarding campaign, I admit it could be MUCH better ... but I enjoyed a couple of missions (13 hours now) wich were very immersive (much more than the random dogfight we have on MP .... ) 

On the other hand, I would say we have a pretty solid basis for the future. Mission will be expanded, more objective. Adding a side to choose, regiment and briefing is not very hard to achieve and we bring this whole "system" to life. Even a squad system like some people proposed is possible.

So far I would say : ... early access We see and test the basis, I prefer MP a lot,, SP is far from perfect, but the basic system is working and let room for improvment 

[FZG_Merlin]

is the QMB really limited to 2x now ???

 

whats the purpose of this ?

[Zak]

is the QMB really limited to 2x now ???

whats the purpose of this ?

Time conversion may be added before release, no need to be so sad about it. At least yet. Please

It's only a matter of man-hours. They've already stated that they can build a better campaign in six to twelve months.

Then, this just shows they've prioritised poorly.

An opportunity to say how bad the devs are on their own forum is a great, valauble thing, isn't it, E_O?

[Y-29.Silky]

Mouse-aim?

The day mouse-aim is in this game, is the day I fucking quit forever.

[Zak]

I think you know me better than that Zak.

Yeah, I think I do. So I just won't try to tell you that unlocks in SP are good or smth like it. You're a reasonable adult and you know what's better for you.

On this positive wave, off to bed.

[FZG_Merlin]

Time conversion may be added before release, no need to be so sad about it. At least yet. Please

An opportunity to say how bad the devs are on their own forum is a great, valauble thing, isn't it, E_O?

 

It was in and worked long ago. Just wonder whats the purpose of removing it from QMB which is most of use to do tests, in which the time conversion is very useful.

[AcesHigh]

Summer Textures on maps, I'm sure of it.   And a campaign reset button so to restart your campaign in the middle you don't have to buy a new copy of the game.

[Double_Tap]

681 MB patch downloading now!