6./ZG26_Emil Posted August 27, 2013 Posted August 27, 2013 I was never really interested in teh WW1 stuff, partly because I didn't have the time to learn about it. Anyway I finally decided to download the ROF Demo the other day and had a bit of a play with it. They I ended up buying the Ultra pack or what ever it is called. There's a lot of stuff that is very nice about the sim and I've been having quite a lot of fun with it recently although the utter frustration of being so slow and trying to attack two seated is driving me nuts. What I absolutely love about it is the fact that I can play in my native resolution of 2560x1440 for the first time. IL2/CLOD this is virtually impossible but the way aircraft are rendered and the LOD is completely perfect it's been a joy as is being able to put nearly everything on max graphics and just launching the game without any thought. 2
Vandal Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 Yes I also bought Rise of Flight after the BOS announcment. I wanted to see the quality that 777 produces so I downloaded the demo. I loved the Albatros so much I had to buy a pack. I bought the $14 pack to start and have been slowly adding planes as I go. I absolutely hated Cliffs of Dover and was highly agrivated at how it turned out. I will be pre-ordering BOS soon though as I now feel the franschise is in good hands.
6./ZG26_Emil Posted August 28, 2013 Author Posted August 28, 2013 CLOD's pretty good now with the TF Patch but that doesn't mean I wont be flying BOS loads. The way I see it is the more sims the better :D But the LOD problem (Being fixed by TF) was a massive pain and even in IL2 it was damn near impossible to see stuff if you had a high resolution monitor. Way back in the day 2001 I had a lovely 21" Ilyama CRT which had a resolution of 1600x1200 iirc and you simply couldn't see a damn thing on it. I remember (and there are people still doing this!!!) we had a couple of guys who would run the sim in something stupid like 800x640 and they could see enemy aircraft miles away while I was blindly scanning the skys. In the end I had to drop the resolution...something I still have to do on CLOD to this day. Being able to use the native resolution is such a pleasure especially for me as I spent a fortune on my monitors (for work not games honest). I took off from one airfield and saw out of the corner of my eye something moving on the ground, when I looked closely I saw it was a train chugging along. I know this is in other sims but it was really nice to see. Also the lack of shimmering on the ground textures (another horrible hangover from IL2) isn't there. The landscape is believable, the artillery nice to watch as well. But the best this as I previously said is how you can see aircraft and make out their shape from long distances rather than having a black dot that suddenly transforms into an aircraft. Anway it's been kind of fun learning about the WW1 aircraft, I love the sound of the guns and the damage model is very good in my opinion, wings seem to tear away from the aircraft deforming relatively slowly rather than just flying off. Also seeing fragments of wing slowly floating down to earth gives the sim a great feel. The worst part for me is that I am used to aircraft which are much faster and my tactics don't always work, for example rolling over a two seater after a B&Z attack leaves me hanging there close to it and moving very slowly which generally results in bad things happening :D
OBT-Psycho Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 I did it too. as it is summer holiday, the squad is mostly on vacation so I left CoD for a couple of weeks. Being absolutely impatient about the BoS release, I decided to try RoF, just to have a taste of what the guys are able to do...aaaand now I'm stuck to it!! I wont compare WWI and WWII planes as there is no point doing so, but I have to admit you can have quite a lot of fun with these kites. The sim is just superbe. When I look at the LOD for exemple is what we should have had a long time ago. very far plane can be spotted and identified quite easily, damage model is IMHO exemplary regarding to the period covered, and the most important : it is really immersive! some details really put you in the cockpit like the effects on the goggles, or even the black out after being shot at. and I even get what a was missing the most in COD : a proper FFB rendering. I know that the effect would be different between a 180hp plane and a 1200HP plane, but now I can really feel the plane through the joystick. Many of us have been more than disappointed by COD, and I just keep myself from overexcitement in order to avoid the interstellar disappointment we endured with that sim, but now that I know what these guys can do and what will be their starting point, I can't wait 'til "autumn"! every disclaimer should give a shot in ROF before writting burning critics based on what little dev showed us. they would have quite an epiphany 1
6./ZG26_Gielow Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 Me too I bought a Gotha V to see how 777 handled level bombing. The plane is amazing!! Flight model extremely challenging. The presence of wind is another great factor when trying to hit the target. The bomb sight is ok but I hope that they can do it like CLOD. Bomsight mechanics in He111 is just perfect. It looks like the real deal.
6./ZG26_Emil Posted August 28, 2013 Author Posted August 28, 2013 and I even get what a was missing the most in COD : a proper FFB rendering. I know that the effect would be different between a 180hp plane and a 1200HP plane, but now I can really feel the plane through the joystick. This is one thing that sticks in my throat. I threw away my perfectly good MSFFB2 when I found I couldn't use it properly in CLOD. I miss that stick even though I have a Warthog.
VeryOldMan Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 I checked it AGAIN to see if I could change my mind, but to no avail, I really do not like WW1 stuff : (
Matt Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 I did not buy RoF since the BoS announcement (i bought RoF in summer 2009), but i did (pre-)order some planes and field- or weapon-mods. Did not play it alot this year and only in singleplayer, but it's still a lot of fun. I mostly enjoy quick missions with a few tweaks, like longest possible distance from each other, two-seaters with mixed escorts, harsh weather conditions, huge differences in altitude and then, it's really the most fun for me and it's a bit more than just a big furball. It's even more fun than MP for me, mostly because it involves bigger formations of planes and not just lone-wolfs. And flying the planes just feels so much better and is so much more challenging at high (~4000-6000 m) altitudes and with wind and all that. Also flew a night mission with the new FE2 and the nights just look amazing in RoF. Switching the on the lamp from time to time to check instruments just feels as great as it looks. Having said all that, since the preorder option of BoS, i didn't spend and don't plan to spend any more money for RoF as of now, because i don't think i'll play it alot after the release of BoS. But i'm still looking forward to the Sopwith Strutter.
Recon Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 (edited) The silver lining for Rise of Flight is actually Battle of Stalingrad.... it's already begun: http://riseofflight.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=38671 That said, since ROS has a channel map... how long will it be before we can start flying Spits and Hurri's on that wonderful map ? EDIT: Also releasing this new version we present you the first gift from the IL-2: BOS project. We managed to optimize the loading procedures for in-game objects and modules and applied it to ROF. Thus, loading from the start and to the main menu screen has been decreased by more than 10 times. We hope that it's just the first step in discovering and applying new knowledge and technologies into both projects , and a whole lot of new bright ideas are awaiting. If your new to ROF, make sure you learn how to center your gunsights, it makes a world of difference. ROF is a wonderful WW1 sim. If your not used to WW1 planes, the slowness will bother you - especially if you hop out of a CloD server and then go fly ROF My only concern with ROF is the servers like Syndicate used to have more pilots flying on it, but now days, all you see is the flying circus air quake server populated (at least in NA - which we have a considerable less amount of pilots compared to our fellow european pilots) Edited August 28, 2013 by AKA_Recon 1
OBT-Psycho Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 This is one thing that sticks in my throat. I threw away my perfectly good MSFFB2 when I found I couldn't use it properly in CLOD. I miss that stick even though I have a Warthog. you know what? I put my FFB2 in the basement when I bought the G940, merely at the same time most of my squad switched to CoD. And after a couple of month, I was wondering why this damned stick wouldn't feel as good as my MS stick. I tried to mess with the parameters concerning FFB in the software with no success. you can still "feel" the plane but it don't matched the experience I had in the "old Il-2" I was about to take my MSFFB2 out of the dust to see if I could have something a bit better but by the time I re-tried to fly the ROF demo and then...it hit me pretty hard!! My G940 is just a lovely hotas, quite the one I always wanted. It is amazing to get this feeling of the plane back in my hands. despite the few know issues, it is really good stuff.
LLv34_Flanker Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 S! I got RoF almost immediately upon launch. Flown it now and then, have purchased planes and field mods etc. to support the game. Same will apply to BoS even though I will fly WW2 a lot more
OBT-Psycho Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 The silver lining for Rise of Flight is actually Battle of Stalingrad.... it's already begun: http://riseofflight.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=38671 That said, since ROS has a channel map... how long will it be before we can start flying Spits and Hurri's on that wonderful map ? EDIT: If your new to ROF, make sure you learn how to center your gunsights, it makes a world of difference. ROF is a wonderful WW1 sim. If your not used to WW1 planes, the slowness will bother you - especially if you hop out of a CloD server and then go fly ROF My only concern with ROF is the servers like Syndicate used to have more pilots flying on it, but now days, all you see is the flying circus air quake server populated (at least in NA - which we have a considerable less amount of pilots compared to our fellow european pilots) this is the main reason why I did't took the plunge back at the early days of RoF. I was used to Il-2, spent a lot... I mean A LOT of time on the sim as soon as I flew it for the first time, and I was excited about the upcoming release of, let's call it "the biggest disappointment I endured in my virtual gamer life". But these days I was eager to see what the dev's were able to produce, and I wanted to have a taste of the futur. that sweeeet taste
dburne Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 Oh yes indeed, Due to the BOS announcement, I downloaded the Free 2 Play version of ROF, back in Dec, and then immediately purchased the ICE version. I have since purchased some additional planes and the channel map as well. Now I was never much into WWI stuff, just didn't interest me all that much, as my real love is WWII. Which is interesting, in that my very first flight sim, was the original Red Baron on my 386 DX. But when I saw the announcement, I figured what the heck I would check out ROF. I am very glad I did, I was blown away by the graphics, sounds, airplane handling, really the whole thing. I do not have a lot of spare time right now, but when I can I have been having fun flying the beta career. Now of course, once I have my pre-ordered Premium Edition of BOS, undoubtedly most of the little spare time I get will be spent with it. Thankfully with the fall and then the winter, I will have much more spare time to enjoy my flight simming.
skline00 Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 Already owned ROF for quite sometime. When I saw 777 Studio was working on BOS I IMMEDIATELY ordered it. ROF is a great sim.
Heywooood Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 same here...bought RoF on disc...from GoGamer...on preorder way back when...thanks Jason having stayed with RoF from day one through today, I knew BoS would be a winner - even if it took some time, it would be worth it and then some. been flying RoF alot more lately too and I am also getting amped about flying Yaks and 109's in next gen RoF skies, be sure
6./ZG26_Emil Posted August 29, 2013 Author Posted August 29, 2013 I'm starting to get seriously addicted actually :D
FTC_Karaya Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 My only concern with ROF is the servers like Syndicate used to have more pilots flying on it, but now days, all you see is the flying circus air quake server populated (at least in NA - which we have a considerable less amount of pilots compared to our fellow european pilots) My concern as well, am personally not at all interested in the turning contests between Dr.Is and Camels on the deck that seem to be all there is to arcade servers.
Yellowsub Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 I think I owned ROF since its release but preferred to spend my time in Il2. Back in its release it found it very "sterile" and compared to RB3D's atmosphere a let down. However since I per-orderd BOS I reinstalled it and I am enjoying my beta career so far. I own all fighters and the german 2 seaters now, going for all planes and the channel map too. Thanks for the great discount scheme.
150GCT_Veltro Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 Me too I bought a Gotha V to see how 777 handled level bombing. The plane is amazing!! Flight model extremely challenging. The presence of wind is another great factor when trying to hit the target. The bomb sight is ok but I hope that they can do it like CLOD. Bomsight mechanics in He111 is just perfect. It looks like the real deal. A very good choice to try the RoF engine. Gotha is superb.
6S.Manu Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 The worst part for me is that I am used to aircraft which are much faster and my tactics don't always work, for example rolling over a two seater after a B&Z attack leaves me hanging there close to it and moving very slowly which generally results in bad things happening :D You're welcome. I've the same problems.
Bearcat Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 This is one thing that sticks in my throat. I threw away my perfectly good MSFFB2 when I found I couldn't use it properly in CLOD. I miss that stick even though I have a Warthog.Whuuuuuuuutttt... You threw away a MSFFB2!!? Yeah that's my biggest beef with CoD and the one thing that keeps me from really enjoying it as my main stick is a MSFFB2 and will be until it dies.
=BKHZ=Furbs Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 Just been flying ROF to try out the new patch, omg it looks good! What still impresses me the most is the LOD sysytem and the FASS and AF on the planes, really brings out the detail.
VeryOldMan Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 Whuuuuuuuutttt... You threw away a MSFFB2!!? Yeah that's my biggest beef with CoD and the one thing that keeps me from really enjoying it as my main stick is a MSFFB2 and will be until it dies. Not all like it. I also had a MSFFB 2 and always hated the thing. The reactiosn never felt realistic. Tryign to transmit too much trough the stick, even things that would not be felt on the stick. In fact most of time ruine dmy immersion.
6./ZG26_Emil Posted August 29, 2013 Author Posted August 29, 2013 Whuuuuuuuutttt... You threw away a MSFFB2!!? Yeah that's my biggest beef with CoD and the one thing that keeps me from really enjoying it as my main stick is a MSFFB2 and will be until it dies. I know I know! I'm a minimalist and don't like clutter. I've thrown loads of useful stuff out and regretted it. The MSFFB2 was in perfect condition after 10 years of use. Not all like it. I also had a MSFFB 2 and always hated the thing. The reactiosn never felt realistic. Tryign to transmit too much trough the stick, even things that would not be felt on the stick. In fact most of time ruine dmy immersion. I only used the center force, never liked the actual FFB
VeryOldMan Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 (edited) In fact I just ordered a X65F.. the stick does nto even move Exact oposite of a FFB stick Well, here in brazil is hard to find joysticks of almost any kind of the major brands (only logitech crap here, not that all their stuff is crap.. but their 20$ sticks certainly are).. so takes a looong time to arrive and costs a fortune. Edited August 29, 2013 by VeryOldMan
HeavyCavalrySgt Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 I went the other way. I had been an IL2 player since the beginning and was looking for a WW1 flight sim and found ROF. Then CLOD came out and I was tremendously disappointed. Now that 777 is working on BoS I will be trying IL2 again. Debating about the pre-order. With ROF I get all the planes as soon as they are pre-orderable to support the team but with BoS the timing is bad financially and I'm a little gun shy after being burned by the 80s style campaign play in CLOD.
VeryOldMan Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 Well I just solved it by not eating lunhc on mondays till the end of year (yes.. the game gets THAT expensive here after money conversion and credit card taxes).
I./JG53_BlackJaguar Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 I bought ROF last year when 777 Studios made announcment regarding IL2:BOS. I figured I check out ROF to see if it's good enough and help me decide if I should get IL2:BOS or not. Well I'm very impressed with the ROF so it was very easy for me to pre-order the premium edition of IL2:BOS. The only thing that I wish would be better in ROF is the career mode. There are just too many missions where I don't meet a single enemy plane in the sky....so I'm hoping this won't be the case with IL2:BOS.
DD_Arthur Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 The only thing that I wish would be better in ROF is the career mode. There are just too many missions where I don't meet a single enemy plane in the sky....so I'm hoping this won't be the case with IL2:BOS. BlackJaguar, have you tried this? http://riseofflight.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=394 http://www.pwcampaigngenerator.com/WebSite/PWCG.html
LordNeuro*Srb* Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) There is still nice fights on syndicate servers, u just need to check and cecth the time right. So u have air quake server for pilots lecking of time or just wonting fast actions and then u have a full reall server on syndicate witch is gr8. On sundays there r vintige missions and server is usualy full. And i hope there continue suporting and devoloping the rof, it is a gr8 sim and game. U cann use thise to see online servers in rof http://online.riseofflight.net/en/ Edited August 30, 2013 by LordNeuro*Srb*
ThudThunder Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 I love ROF, sure it needs some fixing, and maybe an "attitude adjustment" but its still the best game I have ever played. They produce high quality planes, and when we haggle over minute details they will usually listen to us.
gavagai Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 As with anything, if you know more about something you will have more criticisms, but I am very glad to see you guys enjoying RoF. As a piece of software it is really top notch. To be honest, I couldn't understand why so many were resistant to Il-2 moving over to the digital nature engine in the first place. It is stable, the LoD scaling is clear and transitions smoothly, it runs great on average machines, and the physics modeling is compelling. You will spend more time actually flying the sim instead of tweaking your damn conf.ini files with the new Il-2 than you ever have before, I am sure of that. 1
VeryOldMan Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 As with anything, if you know more about something you will have more criticisms, but I am very glad to see you guys enjoying RoF. As a piece of software it is really top notch. To be honest, I couldn't understand why so many were resistant to Il-2 moving over to the digital nature engine in the first place. It is stable, the LoD scaling is clear and transitions smoothly, it runs great on average machines, and the physics modeling is compelling. You will spend more time actually flying the sim instead of tweaking your damn conf.ini files with the new Il-2 than you ever have before, I am sure of that. I think most of the resistence came from people that felt the time spent fixing the CoD engine (that has some amazing futurs, just badly focused on what shoudl be priorities) woudl go to waste. But it snot like RoF engien will stay static forever. A new game using it, helps to fund the development of the engine and both games will likely evolve with time.
Matt Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 I upgraded my system yesterday and now with (practically) maximum settings and 30-40 planes around, it's really an amazing experience. I'm usually not that much into graphics, but the rest is so good and in combination with the awesome sound effects and the convincing physics, it just feels great. Also be sure to install Gavagais mod pack when you fly against AI, because it's way more interesting that way. Of course RoF has issues, but if you compare it with the relatively simple summer 2009 release, it really made an impressive developement. That's pretty much the main reason why it didn't take me that long to go ahead and preorder BoS. I'm looking foward to the BoS release and to experience the developement from the very beginning, just like with RoF. I think it's more fun than getting a "finished" product which only gets a few new planes or a new map from time to time.
VeryOldMan Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 I need to install RoF again to check if i will need to upgrade my video card :/ Fearing my NVidia 460 GTS will not cut it...
Rjel Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 I'm impressed by the 1.31 patch for RoF. Mission load times are greatly reduced.
Recon Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 I'm impressed by the 1.31 patch for RoF. Mission load times are greatly reduced. +1 much better! some mentioned Gotha - I really enjoyed level bombing with the Gotha. It seemed many just flew it low, but I enjoyed hitting targets from altitude... but it does take awhile to get to altitude
6./ZG26_Emil Posted August 30, 2013 Author Posted August 30, 2013 I just did a 15v15 fight in the QMB it was brilliant fun and as someone else said the tempo of the fight is much quicker compared to WW2 which I wouldn't have thought due to the planes being slower. Great to see a swirling mass of aircraft. I bought 4 field mods as well so I can use the fancy gun sights and extra gauges and then for some inexplicable reason I decided I wanted to have a checkered streamer on my wing as well so bought the 2nd personalization pack. I think I've got everything I need now....or do I? :D
DD_Arthur Posted August 30, 2013 Posted August 30, 2013 I need to install RoF again to check if i will need to upgrade my video card :/ Fearing my NVidia 460 GTS will not cut it... I recently upgraded from a dual core running at 3ghz with a 460gts756mvram to an i7 running at 3.6ghz with a 660ti 3gigvram. The difference was startling. I think your 460gts will be........ok, provided you have a quad core processor. The 460 is a great card for what it is nowadays and can put up some decent eye-candy but the DN engine was built with quad core processors in mind and I think you'll definitely need one to realise the games potential when it comes to the number of 'planes in the air and ground objects.
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