DCS MiG-21bis now released!

[Chuck_Owl]

This terrific module made by Leatherneck Simulations has been released today! First time you takeoff with the afterburners on, you can feel the sheer power of the Tumansky R-25-300 engine. In other words, this is a small gem for aviation enthusiasts that should not be missed. 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 17, 2014 by 71st_AH_Chuck

[kestrel79]

Cool! I'll be sure to check it out on sale down the road.

[HagarTheHorrible]

As much as I would love to get it, until EDGE comes out and I can fly it using the Oculus Rift then I will hold off buying it. It might be likened to a golden nugget perched atop a stale turd.  Don't get me wrong the DCS series has make outstanding features but it's base model needs a serious lick of paint.

[Chuck_Owl]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uqZ9YIP5EE

[johncage]

then the screenshot showed the terrain...

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

 Quite familiar cockpit there, with some minor differences

[Emgy]

Flanker (or anyone), why is there English text in the cockpit? Is this an early Indian cockpit spec or something?

Great fun to fly, btw.

[Chuck_Owl]

then the screenshot showed the terrain...

 

I don't need pretty terrain to enjoy a study sim.    

[MarcoRossolini]

Flanker (or anyone), why is there English text in the cockpit? Is this an early Indian cockpit spec or something?

Great fun to fly, btw.

I believe this is optional, in all DCS modules to my knowledge there are options for russian and english text... at least for the Soviet hardware...

[Chuck_Owl]

I believe this is optional, in all DCS modules to my knowledge there are options for russian and english text... at least for the Soviet hardware...

 

You're right, it is. I chose the english cockpit because I can't read cyrillic... and unlike in BoS I actually need to know what the switches do and where they are.

[Emgy]

Ah, thanks. The default cockpit is partially still in cyrillic, so I thought it was an IRL cockpit setup in India or Iraq where pilots could have been converting from various British jets.

Same for the Imperial units <-> standard metric cheat sheet.

Edited September 18, 2014 by Calvamos

[MarcoRossolini]

Can't wait to get this, c'mon cash flow, give uncle Marco some mullah!

[9./JG27golani79]

Sooner or later I´ll get this beauty

[Guest deleted@30725]

Look amazing.

 

This module is more like the black shark one right? I mean, most stuff in the cockpit you can play with or only some of it?

 

The ground graphics could use a tweak, but the flying in this game more than takes your mind off that. Ground is pretty poor looking even in real like at 10k feet.

Edited September 18, 2014 by deleted@30725

[Vaxxtx]

Look amazing.

 

This module is more like the black shark one right? I mean, most stuff in the cockpit you can play with or only some of it?

 

The ground graphics could use a tweak, but the flying in this game more than takes your mind off that. Ground is pretty poor looking even in real like at 10k feet.

Everything in the Blackshark cockpit can be used/toggled.

[fdswer]

I bought it and it is amazing how detailed it is, it is also very complex since there are no computers to help you have to arm and set up everything manually.

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

 Finnish Migs had partly cyrillic and western lettering. Also the exterior had a mix of that, but most parts and levers, valves had cyrillic. So we had to learn some of them. Still remember we had to set 12 switches ready for the pilot and could adjust the anti-G system valve for appropriate flight suit setting etc. Flight line servicing was easy and as well basic maintenance, but anything bigger took a lot of hours to accomplish. Mig-21bis was not designed with easy maintenance in mind Product of the 60's and 70's.

[Emgy]

^ Thanks for info.

 

Do you know anyone who worked on J 35 and Magister, and what their experiences were with those planes? 

[71st_AH_Hooves]

Looks great!! but until an F-4 Phantom is released for DCS, this thing is fighting F-15's like in the First Gulf war. As I recall, though I was a young boy at the time, that the Iraqi's did not fair to well.

[fdswer]

Looks great!! but until an F-4 Phantom is released for DCS, this thing is fighting F-15's like in the First Gulf war. As I recall, though I was a young boy at the time, that the Iraqi's did not fair to well.

 

They have the F-4 and others in the game as ai in the missions and stuff but yea if you are a online guy it might be a little hard I will see tonight how it fares.

[Chuck_Owl]

More screenies on the Virtual Aerobatics server

[MiG21bisFishbedL]

Favorite module now. Though, I could be biased.

 

GETTIN' LOW, GETTIN' LOW. I adore how utterly nimble this little balalaika is.

 

And it's so easy to use.

[Vaxxtx]

Great screenies. I want to get it....but just dont have enough sim time. Ill probably buy it now....and play it in a few months like always.

[9./JG27golani79]

Just out of curiosity - does anyone know where the MiG 21 got it´s nickname "Fishbed"?

 

I only found out that it´s a callsign given by the NATO - but is there a story behind?

[Finkeren]

'Cause it sends you to "sleep with the fishes"?

[Gort]

NATO simply assigned names that were supposed to be unflattering.  Lore says that the Mig 15 was originally called the "Falcon". NATO said that is too spiffy, so they re-named it the "Fagot" as a protest of the goofy policy.

 

Obviously Fighter designation begins with "F", Bombers "B", etc...

[9./JG27golani79]

Ah, so no specific reason / story - just the NATO being nice ^^

 

Thanks!

Edited September 19, 2014 by golani79

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

 Well, they got the Finnish numbering wrong. There was no MG-027 in those Mig-21bis versions. Maybe in Mig-21F's we had earlier also called the "Höyry miggi" aka "Steam Mig". The correct would be MG-127 and later on the lettering was small and painted on the side of fuselage under cockpit. Look at this example: http://www.panoramio.com/photo/40082035

Edited September 19, 2014 by LLv34_Flanker

[Emgy]

Ah, so no specific reason / story - just the NATO being nice ^^

 

Thanks!

To split hairs, the codenames are assigned by ASCC/ASIC which is a committee made up by US/UK/CAN/AUS/NZ.

 

And of course, when they used "cool" codenames like Fulcrum, Flanker and Havoc, these names were happily adopted by MiG, Mil, and Sukhoi for their external marketing.

Edited September 19, 2014 by Calvamos

[Chuck_Owl]

S!

 

 Quite familiar cockpit there, with some minor differences

 

I didn't know that you were a MiG-21 pilot, Flanker! That's pretty cool! I saw your post about the Finnish numbering being wrong: you should send an e-mail to Novak (Dolphin), who's also a real life MiG-21 pilot. http://forums.eagle.ru/member.php?u=47878

I remember when I had the chance to speak to a real Lancaster pilot: I could've just stood there and listen to him all day long.

 

Do you have any stories to tell us about the MiG? What do you think of it? What was peculiar about it? What was your experience with it?

[EvilFD]

^^ I'd love to hear some stories.

 

I bought the game yesterday. It's amazing to say the least. Really complicated with a high pilot work load. If you've flown the KA-50 or the A-10C you probably won't have any issues. But, IMHO the Mig-21 is the most difficult, then the A-10C, and then the Blackshark is the easiest.

Edited September 19, 2014 by EvilFD

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

 I was not a Mig-21bis pilot, but I did work on them We did the pre-flight checks, flight line, maintenance, armament configurations and all that. So the cockpit and the plane became quite familiar.

[kestrel79]

Wow that complex? Maybe I'll stay away...sounds pretty cool though I love a challenge, hence why I love flight sims

[Emgy]

kestrel, quickly skim through this video series, you'll get a good idea of what it's like.

[MiG21bisFishbedL]

Just out of curiosity - does anyone know where the MiG 21 got it´s nickname "Fishbed"?

 

I only found out that it´s a callsign given by the NATO - but is there a story behind?

As they've said, it's the nomenclature to ID the aircraft and little more. However, there's more to it. They don't just apply to Soviet/Russian aircraft, but the whole Warsaw Pact and the Chinese. However, if it's a license built aircraft (such as the numerous J-2s, J-6s, and J-7s) then it retains it's original codename. For example, the J-7 might be made by the PRC, but it retains the Fishbed codename because it's part of that family of aircraft. In addition, if it's a license-built Western aircraft such as the Harbin Z-9, it's given a designation. Furthermore, it doesn't just apply to indigenously built aircraft. Any aircraft that saw widespread service in the Warsaw pact received a codename, regardless of its origins. The Bell P-63, North American B-25, and Douglas A-20 all have NATO reporting names due to their presence in Warsaw Pact inventories.

 

F - Fighter, This includes figher-bombers like the Su-24. (Fishbed, Fulcrum, Fred)

B - Bomber. (Bear, Beagle, Backfire)

C - Commercial and Cargo aircraft (Colt, Curl, Condor)

H - Helicopter (Hind, Hip, Havoc)

M - Misc. Trainers, AEW, Seaplanes, and other such non-combat aircraft (Maya, Midget, Mitten)

 

The second identifying feature of the nomenclature are the syllables present. One syllable for a prop-driven aircraft, two for jet. Helicopters aren't included in this, however.

 

For example, the Fred would be a prop driven fighter. It's actually the NATO name for the Bell P-63 Kingcobra. Bark is an Il-2, Beast is an Il-10. Fin goes to the La-7. Bear is the Tu-95.

 

Firebird is the J-10, Fiddler is the Tu-128, and Farmer gets applied to MiG-19s and J-6s.

 

The biggest reason for this nomenclature was to help pilots remember different aircraft and do so quickly by assigning a memorable title to the aircraft that would help a NATO pilots remember what they might be dealing with in terms of performance. It's a lot easier than the old USAF/DoD reporting system that assigns them the oh so distinctive designations of "Type" followed by a number. It's a lot easier to remember "Fagot" and what that means to you as a combat pilot than it is to try and remember what the hell a Type 14 is.

Edited September 20, 2014 by MiG21bisFishbedL

[Chuck_Owl]

Going SUPERSONIC!!!

 

Edited September 20, 2014 by 71st_AH_Chuck

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

 I wonder if they have modelled the feature Mig-21bis had that if you pressed the missile release button then the first missile to get a lock would fire automatically. Also the Gsh-23-2 cannon with it's 200rds. When we loaded those the first 5 rds were AP and after that the normal belt composition. Why 5 AP first? Because the barrels had a protective cap made of metal. They were shot off with the AP rounds. The gun itself was really easy to install/remove and also disassembly and maintenance. Cocking was done with rifle caliber cartridges, 2 of them in the gun when loading it with ammo. 

 

 There are many things on the plane that were interesting. There was one thing in common with them all, no part fit another plane as interchangeable, they were all individuals It was also interesting to see that the 2-seater Mig-21 was better built than the 21Bis, the level of finish was simply better. Bis looked it was hammered together. Engine was top notch though. Oh the times

[SYN_Lt_Dan]

Omg just got it the cockpit looks so real  pics really do it no justice just running through some start up and shut downs for now tho as my Mig is grounded until the ground crew fix the force feedback 

[9./JG27golani79]

The more I look at this plane the more I want it - not sure how long I´m able to resist

Edited September 20, 2014 by golani79

[MiG21bisFishbedL]

MiGs look best in the rain, taxiing out under dreary clouds.