SCG_Space_Ghost Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 War is Hell Air combat simulator, not war simulator. We came here to fly aircraft against each other in glorious combat, not to bomb homes, annex entire nations, destroy ethnic groups, starve the enemy out and destroy civilian morale. This is not war. It is not meant to be war. We can all stop making that silly comparison, now...
AcesHigh Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 I'll let you parachute all the way down to the ground, get your chute off, and then strafe you ... if your lucky enough to make it out alive that is.
kaboki Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) Air combat simulator, not war simulator. We came here to fly aircraft against each other in glorious combat, not to bomb homes, annex entire nations, destroy ethnic groups, starve the enemy out and destroy civilian morale. This is not war. It is not meant to be war. We can all stop making that silly comparison, now... You may see it as just an Air Combat sim, but I see it as booth. I like to immerse myself into the role of an fighter pilot from WW2 and hunt down enemies in a war scenario and at the same time have realistic aircraft behavior. I see it as a simulation of air war. It is the batlle of stalingrad after all and we are simulating that, so yeah it is a war in my eyes(virtually of course)... Edited September 15, 2014 by kaboki
SCG_Space_Ghost Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) You may see it as just an Air Combat sim, but I see it as booth. I like to immerse myself into the role of an fighter pilot from WW2 and hunt down enemies in a war scenario and at the same time have realistic aircraft behavior. I see it as a simulation of air war. It is the batlle of stalingrad after all and we are simulating that, so yeah it is a war in my eyes(virtually of course)... Good for you... I guess... This war was fought for terrible reasons. That battle resulted in a ridiculously unnecessary amount of military and civilian casualties for virtually no gain (unless you love illegal annexation and Iron Curtains, that is...) I don't know why anybody would want that... Or for that to be their staple and benchmark for "immersion." I'll stick to damage models, CEM and flight characteristics... Have fun reenacting the brutalities of war with what this air combat simulator offers... I guess... If that angle is so important to you, read about the horrors yourself. Both sides recorded them well. - I am not going to touch that debate any further. Humorously - we had better start DDOS'ing each other, now that this is a real virtual war! (That would put a whole new spin on "Luftwhiner," though... Wah, wah, wah all the way back to Berlin. It's a "war simmer's" life for me!) Edited September 15, 2014 by FalkeEins
kaboki Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 I think you misunderstood me a little, I don't support either illegal annexation or Iron curtains or even the ongoing US wars(Irak, Afganistan, Libya etc). But I love playing war games/sims on computers and pretend to be in the madness, and Im fascinated by the people that fought in these wars(on booth sides) and also like history. In real life Im a pasifist and totally against any type of war
SCG_Space_Ghost Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 I think you misunderstood me a little, I don't support either illegal annexation or Iron curtains or even the ongoing US wars(Irak, Afganistan, Libya etc). But I love playing war games/sims on computers and pretend to be in the madness, and Im fascinated by the people that fought in these wars(on booth sides) and also like history. In real life Im a pasifist and totally against any type of war The fascination is something I can agree with - however, I would never want to be involved in a modern war, nor would I personally want to simulate what war does to people and nations. Either way, salute to you, sir. We need more "not biting each other's heads off" in these forums. ^_^
kaboki Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 Well there's no point in biting anyones head off over a silly discussion about wether we simulate a war or not when playing il2:p. Salute. Have to go now so I can takeoff and shoot down some chutes, lol
AbortedMan Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 Air combat simulator, not war simulator. We came here to fly aircraft against each other in glorious combat, not to bomb homes, annex entire nations, destroy ethnic groups, starve the enemy out and destroy civilian morale. This is not war. It is not meant to be war. We can all stop making that silly comparison, now... This is taking it a little far. Developers took the time to add this feature in the game, so it's there for a reason, why would you not expect people to use it or try to enforce that people don't?
=AVG=Zombie Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 I am impressed, this thread made it to 3 pages! ~S~ Cant wait to get home froom work and go chute hunting.... lol
SCG_Space_Ghost Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) -snip- or try to enforce that people don't? Following me? Looking for another opportunity to descent? What are you talking about? Please quote where I made any mention of the "enforcement" you're claiming. Kind of curious how there is no mention to chute shooting in that post, either. Definitely not what I was referring to, but you probably skipped over the rest of it so you could make your hastily make your appeal. Sigh... Aren't you the one that conveniently looked over the context in that thread that a moderator so kindly created for me? Edit: My apologies, it looked like you over read (or conveniently ignored) the context of my discussion while it was still in the DD. Nonetheless. Edited September 15, 2014 by FalkeEins
SYN_Bandy Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) ... people seem rather passionate about it, almost to the point of smashing keyboards lol. This thread has actually back fired a bit, I don't do it but now it seems i may take it up, if only to read the chat bars in game and get in peoples head a lil bit. ~S~ You seem to be a trollish individual, inclined to very trollish behaviour and all that entails. We shall take pity on your trollish ugliness and end your life before it's first breath... (Beowulf, the missing chapter) Edited September 15, 2014 by SYN_Bandy
AbortedMan Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 Following me? Looking for another opportunity to descent? What are you talking about? Please quote where I made any mention of the "enforcement" you're claiming. Kind of curious how there is no mention to chute shooting in that post, either. Definitely not what I was referring to, but you probably skipped over the rest of it so you could make your hastily make your appeal. Sigh... Aren't you the one that conveniently looked over the context in that thread that a moderator so kindly created for me? Edit: My apologies, it looked like you over read (or conveniently ignored) the context of my discussion while it was still in the DD. Nonetheless. Following you? You're posting in the general discussion forum... I'm not sure to what you are referring...I'm assuming it's the DM comparison thread that certainly had the potential to really go places. I wasn't overlooking anything at all, simply pointing out that a picture of a shot up wing doesn't equate to what the damage model is made of, especially when shown with two comparative still screenshots. Damage model is more how damage affects flight characteristics, I would think. It just seemed that you were focusing on the textures and art style instead of the actual features of damage modeling. And yes, I did ignore most of that discussion...those "I like my game so much I want to make every other game just like it, in fact, I like my game so much I'm going to actually stop playing it so I can go to another game's forum and show comparative examples of it to others then watch the sparks fly" types of threads aren't really that interesting anymore. My post here was a commentary on the thread in general. The title of the thread and OP is directly telling people to not do something. Why does everything have to be an argument? We're having a discussion, you gave your input, I gave mine...now you say something else, then maybe someone else will add to it...no argument needed. There's no reason for vitriol.
71st_AH_Mastiff Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 C'mon guys, just stop it. This is just... sad. I can't even express myself in this case. You shot me down, well lucky you. But when my Pilot bails out, there is no fu**** reason to shoot him! If some does this, he should not be credited with his kill. If you beat an already beaten enemy, you should go see a mental doctor! might be ISIL supported shooting down Chutes?
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