stop shooting parachutes!

[VRPilot]

C'mon guys, just stop it. This is just... sad. I can't even express myself in this case.

 

You shot me down, well lucky you. But when my Pilot bails out, there is no fu**** reason to shoot him!

 

 

If some does this, he should not be credited with his kill. If you beat an already beaten enemy, you should go see a mental doctor!

[Finkeren]

What's the problem? If someone decides to be an a-hole, that's entirely on them. I would personally never waste ammo on a beaten enemy, regardless if (s)he has bailed out or not.

 

It's a fact that "chute-shooting" did happen occasionally in WW2, but seems to have been generally frowned upon, much as it is in BoS now.

[I./ZG1_Badger1-1]

Same discussion as in ols Il2 and ADW etc.

 

Shooting Pilots will always happen, but why bother? In here you don´t have any statistics yet, so shooting a pilot is indeed pointless but it wont make you stop pressing refly and fly instantly again.

 

In an future OnlineWar you might get pissed off but right now?...ignore it

[=LD=Hethwill]

Too common in the East, historically I mean, to be a nuisance. As Finkeren says, it is frowned upon, and that is as much as it gets. 

[AbortedMan]

Don't worry, your points are in the mail.

[Imur6]

I'm not sure but it could be possible  when I think he killed many friends of mine

[=LD=Penshoon]

[VRPilot]

it was a crime, it is a crime and ever will be a crime to shoot at bailed out pilots. Just because others do it, you do it yourself? No, because we are well educated people. This case should cause a penalty. Very simple

[keeno]

Hi all,

 

I've never and wouldn't shoot anyone is a chute, however it is a fact of war. If you get shot whilst bailing, shrug your shoulders, think to yourself "ass-hole" and carry on, it's not worth getting hot under the collar about.  

 

BTW, great video.

 

Cheers

[216th_Peterla]

Totally fair to me. A killer should be killed..

[BlitzPig_EL]

A "penalty"?

 

This isn't a bloody football match, it's a simulation of war.

 

These things happened, and more regularly than the history books would have you believe.

 

Now as far as the sim goes, if certain mission parameters define a win by the number of pilot kills, what do you think is going to happen?

 

Also, if you belong to 303 (Polish) Squadron, this was just standard operating procedure, both in WW2 and with the virtual 303 boys that used to fly IL2.

 

Quit whining, and carry on.

[Feathered_IV]

 

This isn't a bloody football match, it's a simulation of war.

 

 

It's a computer game, and there is a growing culture of griefing other players and only considering it job-done when the victim is forced to quit in frustration.

[VRPilot]

It's not whining, it's a simple lack of ethics on your side. Someone elses crime just don't justify doing it yourself. This makes me really sad.

[keeno]

VollautoVolker,

 

I totally agree with you, it should not happen......But in the end, its a game. I bet the people who do shoot pilots in chutes are loving the fact that it bothers you so much and will happily continue the practice all the more vigorously.

 

cheers

[Finkeren]

We've had this discussion several times before. Whether or not shooting parachutes was a war crime during WW2 (it wasn't at least not formally) the war in the East was filled to the brim with gross violations of both the Geneva and the Hague Conventions, of which shooting people at the moment of surrender was one of the minor ones!

 

Interestingly enough, there was a more or less recognised sign of surrender in air warfare during WW2: Lowering the aircrafts landing gear was considered surrender, if it happened over enemy territory with the intent of landing at an enemy base. Try to get people to respect that sign in MP.

[wtornado]

USSR did not sign the Geneva convention.

 

There was no conventions in the east they were both thriving for the total annihilation of each other.

 

Chutes,women and children and all.

[Vaxxtx]

You respawn. Its a game. There is no penalty. You are not really getting shot IRL. Who cares.

 

There are tons of reasons why it should not bother anyone. Same discussion back in the original CounterStrike and t-baggin. This happens on public air-quake servers more than dedicated squad run ones in video games. Just like a FPS, there are always people who like to go the extra mile to be a jerk, and do a "virtual insult". But again when you fly fps in WWII planes, that can repawn, and there no penalty, you attract it.

 

With virtual squds and dedicated servers, you can pick and choose the folks you play with and things like that you wont have to worry about. Never had to worry about people acting up when I was flying DCS missions. BoS will hopefully be the same when online turns into more than dogfight servers.

[SeriousFox]

Come on, its just a game.   

Edited September 15, 2014 by SeriousFox

[=LG/F=Kathon]

Remember:

 

I will shoot at every single pilot, regardless if he is in a plane or his paraschut, who first pull the trigger at my direction. If you see me please fly away in peace, otherwise I'll kill you.

[Praetor]

They're just roleplaying VVS.

[=AVG=Zombie]

Hmmmm, who cares if you virtual chute gets virtually shot?  Get another virtual plane and virtually go return the virtual favor.....  

[Feathered_IV]

They're just roleplaying VVS.

 

No, they are just using it as an excuse.  Their true intention is to insult the other player.  They just don't have the guts to be honest about it. 

[ParaB]

Welcome to the internet.

[=AVG=Zombie]

It must be totally a russian thing then, is that what i am reading? Hahahahah none of the current german flyers would never do that right? lmao........ Now i will shoot every chute i see...... Just imagine me laughing at you when i do it!

[Gambit21]

Welcome to the internet.

 

Yep

 

Although I've always enjoyed and will continue to enjoy multiplayer - there's a lot to be said for single player and I spend a fair amount of time there

as well for a variety of reasons.

 

Getting bent because some douche shoots your little fake guy who already lost his fake plane anyway is a waste of energy - life is too short.

Hell it happened to me just the night before last, and it was a German. A simple 'click' problem solved.

[Schmittfeuer]

Interestingly enough, there was a more or less recognised sign of surrender in air warfare during WW2: Lowering the aircrafts landing gear was considered surrender, if it happened over enemy territory with the intent of landing at an enemy base. Try to get people to respect that sign in MP.

 

Tried this so often, it never works.

 

Oddly enough some people manage to crash if you do it at low altitude though, must stall out trying to keep behind the one with the gear out.

[SR-F_Winger]

Always depends. If someone decides to vulch my airfield and doesnt let me a chance then the one can not expect not to be told manners above my home.

I wouldnt mind if i would get chuted after vulching an airfield as well.

After a standard planekill or dogfight chuting the opponent is a dickmove. I wouldnt do that.

In any case. no (REAL) hard feelings. Just a game:)

[=LD=Hethwill]

It must be totally a russian thing then, is that what i am reading? Hahahahah none of the current german flyers would never do that right? lmao........ Now i will shoot every chute i see...... Just imagine me laughing at you when i do it!

 

Not that a few well known Axis flightmen did not confide to their Gruppe buddies, when repositioned to Africa, that the East was nothing short of total war and when a certain well known English ace shot a german chute, which shocked many, did not even made them eastern front veterans shudder a little bit. So facts or no facts both VVS and their opponents will role play it

 

Bail and pray !!! 

[Uufflakke]

All this fuzz about some pixels on your screen.  Call it a game, a sim.

Have fun with it, enjoy it.

If you can't handle it to be shot stay away from the internet.

Really.

[Gambit21]

So facts or no facts both VVS and their opponents will role play it

 

 

BS - they're not 'role playing' anything, they're just being a-holes for the sake of it.

That said I'll reiterate what I wrote above regarding getting upset about it - waste of energy.

[=LD=Hethwill]

BS - they're not 'role playing' anything, they're just being a-holes for the sake of it.

That said I'll reiterate what I wrote above regarding getting upset about it - waste of energy.

 

A-holes then. My point was, and referring to an up post, not only VVS does it, so yeah

Edited September 15, 2014 by =LD=Hethwill_Khan

[kaboki]

haha, I didn't even know it was possible too shoot people in chutes, now I just have to check it out  .  

Edited September 15, 2014 by kaboki

[Potenz]

Well here is my point of view on this matter.

 

I agree with the OP about ethics, as part of the simulation i like the part of chilvary and ethics in the air, that's

the role i like to play when i become a virtual 1940's or 1910's pilot, i will never shoot a parachute or a badly beaten

plane defenceless trying to land, i'm my opinion it is no worth it, and i put my virtual life in danger. that's concerning

the role a i like play in the virtual world.

    Parachute shooting and damaged landing planes happens in WWI and WWII, so there's another interesting thing

to take into account, who you want to be in the VR world, the ruthless butcher or the chivalrious knight, that just lays

on each player to chose.

 

in the gameplay side, yes it pissed me off when i'm trying to land my fecked up plane and there's an a-hole tearing my

useless plane appart as i try to ditch it in a field, or turning arround to shot my parachute, but hey as i said avobe, it in

which role each player decides to play.

 

It's annoying yes, it should be penalized mmmm... i don't see any nation in a confinct encarcelating is own man for killing

surrendered enemy pilots.

 

This is only MHO and by no meanings any truth.

 

regs

 

Potz

oh almost forget

 

the worst you can get in a sim is just a black screen.

[=AVG=Zombie]

haha, I didn't even know it was possible too shoot people in chutes, now I just have to check it out  .  

Yes, must start a chute shooting revolution...... Bwahahahahahahhahaha  who is with me? Shoot every chute every time and laugh wicked and insanely....  just to see the interesting reads in the chat bar..... Bwahahahahahah.

[LLv44_Mprhead]

Chute shooting is griefing and being an asshole. Simple as that. Is there a need to do something about it? Probably not.

[6./ZG26_5tuka]

Don't know what kin of penalty the OP intends. Why there should be sth like this is another big question. The great thing of online moral is that you can't and won't ever be able to force anybody to follow the rules, otherwise there were no teamkillers, friendly rammers ect. in nearly every single online game/sim.

 

Shooting chutes is waste of amunition so is shooting a burning guy conscious about his final fait to me. Yet again some people are doing it, bad for them, even if they consider it fun. There's no need for a dev to spend dozens of hours inventing a completely fair online moral penalty system since a thing like that won't likely ever exist.

 

Tbh. vulchers, teamkillers and rammers are a much bigger issue to me, but fortunately such people overall remained a minor part of the playerbase by now.

Edited September 15, 2014 by [Jg26]5tuka

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

 Crash with your plane and stop thinking about statistics. Problem solved. Bailing out and giving the chute killer the attention they want is a double win for them. Deprive it from them and ignore them altogether. I do not shoot chutes, waste of time and giving too much time for an another opponent to line up for an attack.

[kaboki]

Yes, must start a chute shooting revolution...... Bwahahahahahahhahaha  who is with me? Shoot every chute every time and laugh wicked and insanely....  just to see the interesting reads in the chat bar..... Bwahahahahahah.

Im with ya:p. Too be honest, I can't really see why being killed in a video game makes people so upset.

 

 

Tbh. vulchers, teamkillers and rammers are a much bigger issue to me, but fortunately such people overall remained a minor part of the playerbase by now.

 

Yes this is a real problem, unlike being killed in a chute:p. Allthough sometimes I have accidently fired upon friendlies myself because I find it really hard too see wether the plane is German or Russian(Im getting better at it now). So I don't think all teamkillers do it on purpose, accidents can happen...

[marklar]

Also, if you belong to 303 (Polish) Squadron, this was just standard operating procedure, both in WW2 and with the virtual 303 boys that used to fly IL2.

 

Was it Kellett who said "Brits where shooting to shot down German plane, Poles where shooting to kill Germans"?

 

haha, I didn't even know it was possible too shoot people in chutes, now I just have to check it out  .  

 

I knew it was possible but never done it. This thread convinced me to try it one time. But first I have to force someone to get off his plane.

Edited September 15, 2014 by marklar

[Potenz]

we can be able to use our personal weapons when on the parachute, at least you have a minimun chance