What will the Dev's do After they have finished IL2 Battle Of Stalingrad?

[Brano]

Whatever you say smartass.

 Behave,sir.

[FlatSpinMan]

Easy,Silky. No personal insults.

[Trooper117]

Zak already said they would probably be doing the Kuban next... that hopefully means some lend lease stuff.

As stated in the other thread though, Africa and the Med has a lot of fans. Let's hope they go down that road, and sooner rather than later.

[NightBtyNightBeauty]

It was a small battle, but what about the Soviet Union vs imperial Japanese? It would be short but hey at least we get some zeros and I 16s fighting! The battle I think was when Japan tried to get to Russia through China.

[BeastyBaiter]

The pre-WW2 part or the 1945 land grab? The prewar part had I-15's and I-16's vs Ki-10's and Ki-27's. It was hilariously one sided in favor of the Russians in the air. I don't know much about the end war land grab but my guess is it was also fairly one sided as the Japanese were busy else where.

[Trooper117]

If they can't do Africa and the Med, and if they want to stay with the Russian front, the only part of the eastern front air conflict that really interests me is Barbarossa... I used to love flying the Polikarpovs, I-16's and I-153's on the old IL2

Edited September 17, 2014 by Trooper117

[DD_Arthur]

As a next step I'd like an eastern front expansion without the snow and a padded out plane set.

 

Then we can move to Operation Husky with a clear conscience.   

[Leaf]

Looking at Rise of Flight they've probably got things mapped out already.
Continuing with the theme of the Eastern Front would indeed make sense, since it is a natural progression, and would allow for further refinement of this title, before hopping into a completely different theatre, say, Berlin '45. 
I'd be content with Kuban followed by the Mediterranean theatre, since the latter has hardly ever been touched upon, and is unduly overlooked in the public eye.

[Capt_Hook]

The warbirds planeset seems to be doing very well in DCS, so I'm pretty hopeful they'll smell the money and complete the late war experience. I'd like to see a'summer after'evolution of the current game, followed by North Africa.

[J2_Trupobaw]

Hopefully they will port features developed for BoS back into RoF; then (or instead of that) another Eastern Front theatre.

I'd love to see them do Spanish Civil war. Not gonna happen,but would be very interesting. 

[ST_ami7b5]

The warbirds planeset seems to be doing very well in DCS, so I'm pretty hopeful they'll smell the money and complete the late war experience. I'd like to see a'summer after'evolution of the current game, followed by North Africa.

I have DCS Mustang, Dora, and some other planes and copters, but they should work on new more acceptable (EDGE) terrain and appropriate maps much harder.

 

Back to topic:

I hope they'll stay on eastern front for a while and also cure my snow-blindness. The snow in BoS is modelled excellently, but I would like to have a chance to alternate it with some summer map (like you).

Africa would be nice afterwards, I agree.

[Cybermat47]

I hope they stick to the Eastern Front, but I won't complain if a Pacific or Med map pops up.

[jaydee]

It would be not very wise to move away from eastern front with all this eastern front content done.

Kuban, Crimea 1941 and 1943-1944 are the logical direction to go.

 

 

I'd be surprised if the next two were not Kuban and then the Med. They make the most sense from a content and business perspective.

 I am guessing somewhere between these two. Either way,they will have my dosh. ~S~

[MarcoRossolini]

Kuban I'd be happy with, hopefully 43 in all honesty. If only because then I'd be able to re-enact certain actions from some Soviet memoirs in my possession...

[Finkeren]

Let's have Smolensk, Leningrad/Karelia, Moscow, Rzhev, Crimea, Kuban, Kursk and Bagration. Then we can talk about moving to other theatres.

[MarcoRossolini]

Let's have Smolensk, Leningrad/Karelia, Moscow, Rzhev, Crimea, Kuban, Kursk and Bagration. Then we can talk about moving to other theatres.

Amen.

[Trooper117]

I'm sure the dev's are well aware that if they keep this game firmly on the eastern front, the large aviation community that love the western theatre and aircraft sets will simply look elsewhere to spend their money.

There is a revenue pool out there that they will throw away if they don't diversify...

[sallee]

They are probably also aware that the large aviation community that loves the Eastern Front (including many in Russia where they are based) will gleefully continue to spend their money on it!

 

There is a revenue pool there that they may throw away if they do diversify...

 

 

Edited: Smiley.

 

 

Edited September 18, 2014 by sallee

[Brano]

The prewar part had I-15's and I-16's vs Ki-10's and Ki-27's. It was hilariously one sided in favor of the Russians in the air. 

Bit offtopic but I will correct this sentence.During Chalchyn-Gol "incident" VVS got quite a beating from IAAF.Soviet pilots flying I15 and I153 were not very succesful.I have some detailed info at my place if someone is interested.

[sallee]

Bit offtopic but I will correct this sentence.During Chalchyn-Gol "incident" VVS got quite a beating from IAAF.Soviet pilots flying I15 and I153 were not very succesful.I have some detailed info at my place if someone is interested.

I have a book on the subject by a Russian (?) author whose name I unfortunately forget! A very interesting aerial conflict.

[steppenwolf]

_{MTO, PTO, Eastern, BoB; it's all been done. What hasn't been done are great 1st person bail out animations, tire deformation, cockpit particle effects and DM, human POV movement, ground life, realistic AI for convoys...flight sims don't need more maps IMO. But yeah, MTO would be cool!}

[Vaxxtx]

_{MTO, PTO, Eastern, BoB; it's all been done. What hasn't been done are great 1st person bail out animations, tire deformation, cockpit particle effects and DM, human POV movement, ground life, realistic AI for convoys...flight sims don't need more maps IMO. But yeah, MTO would be cool!}

True they have all been done, but aside from CLoD doing BoB well, and hopefully BoS doing East well, the rest have not been done with a more modern engine.

 

Not sure what you mean by cockpit particle effects. Cockpit DM is modeled in every sim....but yeah not great.

 

As far as ground life, realsistic AI for convoys, DCS has done well with that with the more in depth missions created. But again, I agree that not since 1946 has it been done well in a WWII sim.

 

That being said, as much as I would love variety in different theatres, I would like a fully detailed one-theatre sim that does everything great more than multiple maps missing details and hollow content.

[steppenwolf]

Yes, new strong core content more than anything. But maybe PTO would allow map makers to put more detail and variety into their design because of the smaller landmasses.

[Finkeren]

They are probably also aware that the large aviation community that loves the Eastern Front (including many in Russia where they are based) will gleefully continue to spend their money on it!

 

There is a revenue pool there that they may throw away if they do diversify...

 

 

Edited: Smiley.

 

Definately!

 

My enthusiam drops significantly, once we turn away from the GPW. Everything else just seems small in comparison.

 

The one thing that could get my pulse up even higher than the Eastern Front would be a proper RAF night bombing/LW night interceptor sim.

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

 In Russia anything with a reference to GPW and killing nazis will sell like weed on a campus

[Finkeren]

S!

 

In Russia anything with a reference to GPW and killing nazis will sell like weed on a campus

And with good reason. It's the most dramatic and decisive period in Russian history since the Revolution and the Civil War.

 

It's no more silly than the tens of thousands of people in the US who just can't seem to let go of the Civil War and have to refight it every summer.

[=AVG=Zombie]

I'm sure they will let the community make different maps, do not see them doing it. Probably take a good break before considering making more aircraft to sell. I personally don't expect much from them afterwards except for patches and maybe a couple planes to sell.

[=CFC=Conky]

The PTO is probably quite a ways off. That said, '43-'44 combat in and around New Guinea, including New Britain would be great. And let's not forget the Philippines campaign of '45; just about every IJN and IJA fighter was used as well as a good mix of USN and USAAF types.

 

In the meantime, let's just enjoy the nice brisk Stalingrad weather shall we?

[Alibaba]

I dunno about BoS and all Sims about wwII

 

If dcs will do proper map on proper engine and add to it 10 planes etc bombers etc, then what do we want more from sim aviation on wwII?

Edited September 18, 2014 by Alibaba

[Pharoah]

I dunno about BoS and all Sims about wwII

 

If dcs will do proper map on proper engine and add to it 10 planes etc bombers etc, then what do we want more from sim aviation on wwII?

 

Good point. DCS are 'upping' their WW2 content with new a/c and maps coming, primarily WTO based. However, having flown DCS and BOS, I still like BOS for WW2...everything is so much better in BOS graphics wise...just everything, except maybe the high cockpit fidelity. If BOS also developed to that detail, you'd have a major fight on your hands. 

 

Back to the original point though...I'd still prefer the devs move into the western front...or, if they have to stay in the Eastern Front, stick to summer maps from now on. 

[15[Span.]/JG51Costa]

Let's have Smolensk, Leningrad/Karelia, Moscow, Rzhev, Crimea, Kuban, Kursk and Bagration. Then we can talk about moving to other theatres.

+1

[Capt_Hook]

Good point. DCS are 'upping' their WW2 content with new a/c and maps coming, primarily WTO based. However, having flown DCS and BOS, I still like BOS for WW2...everything is so much better in BOS graphics wise...just everything, except maybe the high cockpit fidelity. If BOS also developed to that detail, you'd have a major fight on your hands. 

 

Back to the original point though...I'd still prefer the devs move into the western front...or, if they have to stay in the Eastern Front, stick to summer maps from now on. 

I don't see how we could be talking about the same game, unless you're running DCS at low graphics options.  It's honestly hard to judge just what the BoS engine is capable of in terms of ground detail with the current map, as snow just looks like snow, but the Crimea is a wonderland of detail and lighting effects when you can crank the graphics settings way up.  And there simply is no contest in terms of the most prevalent graphic in a flight sim:  the pit.  Even abandoned, 2 year old CloDs pits are graphically sharper.  Don't get me wrong... BoS's pits aren't bad, per se, they're just one of the weaker points of the sim.  BoS blows away DCS in terms of multiplayer performance and optimization, though I guess we'll see what Edge does if it ever shows up. 

 

They do seem pretty focused on the Western Front, though, so I don't see any real collision between the two for quite some time.  I'd be shocked if the didn't continue to evolve the existing Eastern Front setting to include Kursk (or whatever was next in the summer after Stalingrad) with a summer map, and the next aircraft evolutions (La-5Fn? G6? A-5? Yak3/9?). 

[Pharoah]

I don't see how we could be talking about the same game, unless you're running DCS at low graphics options.  It's honestly hard to judge just what the BoS engine is capable of in terms of ground detail with the current map, as snow just looks like snow, but the Crimea is a wonderland of detail and lighting effects when you can crank the graphics settings way up.  And there simply is no contest in terms of the most prevalent graphic in a flight sim:  the pit.  Even abandoned, 2 year old CloDs pits are graphically sharper.  Don't get me wrong... BoS's pits aren't bad, per se, they're just one of the weaker points of the sim.  BoS blows away DCS in terms of multiplayer performance and optimization, though I guess we'll see what Edge does if it ever shows up. 

 

They do seem pretty focused on the Western Front, though, so I don't see any real collision between the two for quite some time.  I'd be shocked if the didn't continue to evolve the existing Eastern Front setting to include Kursk (or whatever was next in the summer after Stalingrad) with a summer map, and the next aircraft evolutions (La-5Fn? G6? A-5? Yak3/9?). 

 

if you read my post again you'll see we're probably talking about the same thing (ie. I've said the DCS cockpits are better/high fidelity, however for everything else I prefer BOS) so yeah definitely agree. Thats why I still fire up BOS for a 'good time' and then DCS for a more focused-on-getting-this-thing-started-correctly time lol

[Praetor]

Just imagine a B17 as well modeled as the HE 111.

 

Nuff said.

[dburne]

I would imagine they will take a little break, then maybe do some tweaking and additional bug fixing, and watch sales closely as that will determine, whether any subsequent product will be developed.

[NightBtyNightBeauty]

Well, I'm really happy with all these replies to my first topic, whatever they do, I'm sure it will be great!

[Leaf]

Just imagine a B17 as well modeled as the HE 111.

 

Nuff said.

 

And imagine a 109 G6 with 30mm's shooting it down! :D

[PA-Sniv]

 

 

I would imagine they will take a little break

 

Sure and they deserve it!

But then next theater will come fast, as they've shown us how fast they made BoS: 1 year and 9 months!!!

[71st_AH_Mastiff]

Well, if it goes as I see the future; I predict a summer/spring maps coming in the near future. I was playing Theater of War Kursk and love the terrain and summer textures.

 

http://www.twitch.tv/whmastiff/c/5101661

[Malfador]

Pacific theater please.  Corsair is my favorite plane as well and I would absolutely love a well done B-25 strafer.  After that MTO