What will the Dev's do After they have finished IL2 Battle Of Stalingrad?

[Gambit21]

Yep - lots of possibilities, and a ways to go even on the Eastern Front.

[NightBtyNightBeauty]

So it seems that Africa and around that area are getting the most wants. And if I had to look to reality, I think they will completely cover the Eastern Campaign, Crimea e.g. Maybe they may do the Battle of Leningrad? Now called Saint Petersburg.

[jaydee]

Yep - lots of possibilities, and a ways to go even on the Eastern Front.

+1.

The next Front would have to include the planes that are already developed...With the addition of 3 or 4 "New" planes the whole BOS scenario could move. The " New " planes added  could be "Old" planes that were also still flyin at the time of the Battle Of Stallingrad.

Conjecture (and wishful thinking) from me. ~S~

[=LD=Hethwill]

A very localized scenario would be PTO Midway, which comes in line with BoS localized setup.

 

Plus a challenge for the team given very few sims have naval air properly done and even less ww2 prop heads.

[Finkeren]

A very localized scenario would be PTO Midway, which comes in line with BoS localized setup.

It will also be even more ridiculously short.

[=LD=Hethwill]

It will also be even more ridiculously short.

 

How so with such a vastness of sea ? Oh yes, put in the USN task force and both the IJN invasion fleet plus the Carrier groups and the islands themselves and damn, I can be biased here though, but we would have enough to work with. Plus not fewer planes than we have now. If this is still too small let's go forth to Rabaul then.

 

But before that, Summer of '42 is my bet after they take some vacations of course.

[Blooddawn1942]

I had always the opinion, that for a PTO scenario, Guadalcanal would be a wise choise. An interesting Map which wouldn't be so boring like the Atoll-Battles with tiny islands and the vast ocean surounding them.

Also the planeset is interesting and would allow to go further down the timeline as the war in the pacific stretches out with future add ons.

Just my oppinion.

[6./ZG26_5tuka]

Pacific scenario with BoS kind of realism & detail = win. Sth. I've ever dreamed of since playing CFS 2 and the following european and estern front sims

Agree a mid to late war scenario would be a wise choice. The battle for Guadalcanal is a good idea, for late war Iwo Jima might be a wise choice.

 

Midway has it's charme, especially with the giant fleet battle around it, though the plane set might be a little too pathetic and slightly favourable to the japs. Did I miss there should be torpedo and dive bombers included as well (Dauntless, Devastator, Helldiver, TBF Avenger, B5N Kate)?

[Livai]

So, I have been thinking, what will 777 And 1C Do after they have made Stalingrad?

- A search and destroy mission to find bugs and to fix them. Short said new patches for the game.

- A new Developer Diary every friday

- Maybe some new planes for BoS?

- Maybe a summer and autumn map?

 

 

[=AVG=Zombie]

Ugh all this talk about PTO, this bland blanket of white at least has some features, i cant imagine just flying around with nothing but blue every where......  now how about a jump to mig alley? 

[Vaxxtx]

Since BoB had such an interesting theatre I would have liked to go that direction, but since CoD has me covered there, the Med. would be a nice change.

[Gambit21]

Ugh all this talk about PTO, this bland blanket of white at least has some features, i cant imagine just flying around with nothing but blue every where......  now how about a jump to mig alley? 

You do realize there were these things called islands don't you?

Guadalcanal, Wake, Midway, New Britain - and this thing called New Guinea....

[Gambit21]

Not to mention the entirety of the Solomons themselves

[migmadmarine]

I would love to see Korea as well, flying Panthers and Phantoms off carriers, CAS with Mustangs and Thunderjets, or my personal dream, to be able to spot targets for the fast movers and Skyraders in a bird dog or AT-6.., [drool]

But sticking to WWII I would like to see a North Africa/MTO campaign, as I feel there haven't really been any sims that cover it well. There was the Mediterranean Air War mod for CFS 3 years ago which I loved at the time, but that is long gone...

[senseispcc]

The logical choice, game and historical Wise, is to make some follow up like the 1943 Kuban or Kursk/Kharkov  winter campaign with the introduction of new planes and maps to slowly go to a not winter campaign in the same regions! 

 

If you think of a pacific campaign I remember the difficulties the original IL2 got when they tried to produce some Gruman USA planes and never had the permission to do it?!   

 

[Y-29.Silky]

There was already a Pacific series in IL-2.

 

I want to see the air war on the Western Front. The good old fashioned, high altitude dogfights with 109's, 190's, 110's, 262's, Spitfires, P-51's, P-38's, P-47's, let alone the fact that there has been NO flight sim that has made a B-17 to a level such as this (Just think of the engine management alone!)

 

If they could re-create Janes WWII Fighters, I would have a heart attack of joy.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFg-EZ19_Z8

Edited September 15, 2014 by Silky

[BeastyBaiter]

I would be very surprised if the first add-on pack was anything other than eastern front. We know that the I-16 is planned after release. So that in of itself offers some clues. My bet would be summer Stalingrad, Battle of Moscow or Kuban '42. Kuban would be an interesting choice as it would allow for lend-lease P-40's and P-39's (maybe hurricanes too, were they present?). Any of these three options would also allow them to better fill out the existing lineup of planes. Once our current lineup is filled out, then they may move on to another theater. My guess would be the Mediterranean due to popularity and relative ease of transition, especially if we got Kuban first.

 

The Pacific is probably a long ways off tbh and if/when they go there, I want a broad battle. Battles such as Midway, Wake and Pearl harbor, though significant, were incredibly short. The Battle of Midway, as important as it was, lasted only a few hours (excluding recon flights and subs). Given all the ships that would have to be made, aircraft carrier operations and the planes themselves, that's a massive undertaking so we could fly 2 sorties in career mode. What we would really want is a proper slugfest, like Guadalcanal. That battle lasted months and had both land and naval components.

[15[Span.]/JG51Costa]

There was already a Pacific series in IL-2.

 

I want to see the air war on the Western Front. The good old fashioned, high altitude dogfights with 109's, 190's, 110's, 262's, Spitfires, P-51's, P-38's, P-47's, let alone the fact that there has been NO flight sim that has made a B-17 to a level such as this (Just think of the engine management alone!)

 

If they could re-create Janes WWII Fighters, I would have a heart attack of joy.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFg-EZ19_Z8

What a great intro movie! best ever!

Good old days.

[=LD=Rulo]

I think that there will be some new planes for this front and after that, some americans planes, maybe normandy - BoB. Germans planes would be more or less the same, they just need to add the allied planes.

[71st_AH_Mastiff]

Knowing these guys, I would say there already 5 moves ahead of what you think their doing.

[NightBtyNightBeauty]

True, They might already have their plans. Or will they come to us and give us choices of what they are willing to make? Then we vote.

Edited September 16, 2014 by DougieNightBeauty

[Deltahawkoz]

Happy to see the Devs to stick with the East ...I remember when the original IL 2 came out, with FB etc...opened up more than a few minds..history lesson as well as flight sim...Anything from Nomonhan onwards is good for me..just my two cents worth...

[Blooddawn1942]

I guess they read the forums and listen carefuly to the comunity. Maybe they are doing a poll. Then they decide what makes sense for the next theater.

From a buisines point of view I'm sure we will see some western allied planes for there is a vast customer base interested in them.

This could be the lent and lease planes in another eastern front theater like Kuban or an MTO.

We will see.

[BlitzPig_EL]

Anything that gets me in the seat of a P40 will be just fine with me.

 

 

And please, no jets.

[Emgy]

True, They might already have their plans. Or will they come to us and give us choices of what they are willing to make? Then we vote.

Look for Zak's polls in the poll forum.

[Brano]

Korea is scheduled for DCS = no need to worry for 1CGS

Late WW2 is scheduled for DCS = no need to worry for 1CGS (and if you keep supporting,there will be B17,maybe in 5 years of development  )

 

Unternehmen Barbarossa,Fridericus,Zitadelle,siege of Leningrad,Sevastopol,Kuban spring offensive,Charkov 1943,operation Bagration,Rzhev meatgrinder.....those are operations where you have potential for having blast with real missions of max 1h duration.

 

Who will fly 5-8hours escort missions from england over germany?Not me,for sure.

[Finkeren]

Exactly Brano.

 

The Eastern Front has the perfect mix of short flying distances, big scope, intense action, large numbers, low altitudes, large variety of plane types, missions and ground units and a real sense of the shifting tides of war. It's just the absolute perfect setting for an action packed, yet realistic, CFS.

[Y-29.Silky]

Korea is scheduled for DCS = no need to worry for 1CGS

Late WW2 is scheduled for DCS = no need to worry for 1CGS (and if you keep supporting,there will be B17,maybe in 5 years of development  )

 

Unternehmen Barbarossa,Fridericus,Zitadelle,siege of Leningrad,Sevastopol,Kuban spring offensive,Charkov 1943,operation Bagration,Rzhev meatgrinder.....those are operations where you have potential for having blast with real missions of max 1h duration.

 

Who will fly 5-8hours escort missions from england over germany?Not me,for sure.

As it's a video game, and not DCS either, an 8 hour mission could easily be shortned to 1. If Janes could do it over 15 years ago, I'm sure these devs have the potential now. And not all missions were escort missions, especially from 1944 to the end.

And even the escort missions in 1946 were not 8 hours.

Edited September 16, 2014 by Silky

[Jaws2002]

It would be not very wise to move away from eastern front with all this eastern front content done.

Kuban, Crimea 1941 and 1943-1944 are the logical direction to go.

[Brano]

As it's a video game, and not DCS either, an 8 hour mission could easily be shortned to 1. If Janes could do it over 15 years ago, I'm sure these devs have the potential now. And not all missions were escort missions, especially from 1944 to the end.

And even the escort missions in 1946 were not 8 hours.

Yes,it is called time compression or time skip.Used in titles like Aces over Europe/Pacific,B17 Mighty 8 etc. How would you like to do it in MP? And even in offline play with so much calculation running behind you cant get much of it.Or you can do airstarts and airends.Not for me.And yes,for western front late 44 till end of war it is such fun.But only for allies sweepers.Not much/if any LW opposition in air.Or you can enjoy fantasy dogfights of 50 mustangs vs 50 schwalbes.Again,not for me.

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

I'd be surprised if the next two were not Kuban and then the Med. They make the most sense from a content and business perspective.

[II./JG77_Manu*]

Korea is scheduled for DCS = no need to worry for 1CGS

Late WW2 is scheduled for DCS = no need to worry for 1CGS (and if you keep supporting,there will be B17,maybe in 5 years of development  )

 

Unternehmen Barbarossa,Fridericus,Zitadelle,siege of Leningrad,Sevastopol,Kuban spring offensive,Charkov 1943,operation Bagration,Rzhev meatgrinder.....those are operations where you have potential for having blast with real missions of max 1h duration.

 

Who will fly 5-8hours escort missions from england over germany?Not me,for sure.

 

yeah but the online-performance of DCS just sucks, if it doesn't get better, it is no fun to fly at all. So at some time, there is a need of those scenarios, too. (Not now, i think like Murf said, Kuban and then Italy would be the wisesd choices in terms of plane enhancement)

And i wanna see a WW2 fighter which can fly for 8 hours   

[PantsPilot]

I'd like the devs to continue the "forgotten battles" theme used a little by il-2 series, so we'd get to fly over the theatres of war that rarely get covered like Malta (can't believe this is still waiting to be done; bloody massive air campaign going on for best part of 3 years and involving 3 air forces and hundreds of aircraft in the sky over the most bombed place in history), Finland, Burma/China, Libya/Tunisia, and also specific battles like Bagration, Kuban and Kursk in the east and Rabaul and Tokyo in the Pacific. A proper populated map of Normandy would be nice too, we're still waiting for a decent Normandy map and Typhoons to be done.

[=LD=Hethwill]

I only wish PTO naval because it has hardly been done correct, especially with winds effect properly done. IT is a whole new scope for air combat yet to be done, properly done.

 

MEditerranean/Africa would be a close contender as well, given the low occurrence in sim scenarios, but TF is going for it no ? So it can fill the void.

 

And why not Finland / Russia Winter Wars ? A fantastic assortment of planes and field cutomizations and great variety of terrain.

[sallee]

Finland would be my ideal......perhaps nought but a dream.

[Y-29.Silky]

Yes,it is called time compression or time skip.Used in titles like Aces over Europe/Pacific,B17 Mighty 8 etc. How would you like to do it in MP? And even in offline play with so much calculation running behind you cant get much of it.Or you can do airstarts and airends.Not for me.And yes,for western front late 44 till end of war it is such fun.But only for allies sweepers.Not much/if any LW opposition in air.Or you can enjoy fantasy dogfights of 50 mustangs vs 50 schwalbes.Again,not for me.

- For MP: 1946, it was accomplished in MP as well (With the B-17 community mod), especially on their Normandy map which also included Britain. I'm sure not too many people would be too mad if the maps weren't scaled of the actual size of Europe.

 

- 50 vs 50: It already is that in BoS in the official servers with 109's and Yaks, but as there's already custom MP missions in BoS, that won't really happen. And just look a Operation Bodenplatte.

 

- Allied Sweepers/LW Opposition: In Battle of Stalingrad, there wasn't much LW opposition either. And as for allied sweepers, the 8th Air Force lost more men than the whole Marine force in the Pacific. Furthermore,  the average life span for a P-47 pilot near the end of the war was only 2 sorties, it was never a turkey shoot for America vs LW.

 

"Unternehmen Barbarossa,Fridericus,Zitadelle,siege of Leningrad,Sevastopol,Kuban spring offensive,Charkov 1943,operation Bagration,Rzhev meatgrinder" ..

 

Those were already done, those were vast, in-depth campaigns in IL-2: Forgotten Battles.. More Eastern Front pitches, especially repeats, will burn people out.

Edited September 16, 2014 by Silky

[PantsPilot]

lol awwww spoil sport. 

 

Jokes aside - WW2 had so many theatres that will probably keep 777 busy for years to come, esp if its at the quality we're seeing now. I still think they should branch into the WTO - not everyone likes russian a/c or the eastern front. I'd prefer something North Africa (includes vehicles, aircraft and shipping) or 1944 post invasion western europe to include stuff like Spit IXs, Hawker Typhoon/Tempest, 109 G's and K's, P47s, P51s, P38s, FW190s, B17s, B25s, B26s, B24s - even if just AI - plus infantry/vehicles/armour/etc. Yeah its a lot but a lot was happening at the same time all along the western front after the landings. 

 

OR even the 'soft underbelly' (italy/sicily/etc)

 

 

A point I made a while back was that the Spitfire X1V was always left out and here we go again lol! Post invasion saw the introduction of the superb griffon-engine fighter with 5 bladed prop that was light years ahead of the opposition at the time and was arguably the finest piston engine fighter of the war (according to Captain Eric Brown test pilot who actually flew most of them, it was). It first saw service in July 1944 in significant numbers yet we never see it in a proper game that includes single player (inserted that for the forum bores who say it appeared in some online only game once so everything is actually rosy after all), instead we get dozens of daft German aircraft that never flew! I'm starting to think that ignorance could be at work here. Incidentally guess what? It's not going to be in the new sim DCS are building either...aaaargh 

[Vaxxtx]

- For MP: 1946, it was accomplished in MP as well (With the B-17 community mod), especially on their Normandy map which also included Britain. I'm sure not too many people would be too mad if the maps weren't scaled of the actual size of Europe.

 

- 50 vs 50: It already is that in BoS in the official servers with 109's and Yaks, but as there's already custom MP missions in BoS, that won't really happen. And just look a Operation Bodenplatte.

 

- Allied Sweepers/LW Opposition: In Battle of Stalingrad, there wasn't much LW opposition either. And as for allied sweepers, the 8th Air Force lost more men than the whole Marine force in the Pacific. Furthermore,  the average life span for a P-47 pilot near the end of the war was only 2 sorties, it was never a turkey shoot for America vs LW.

 

"Unternehmen Barbarossa,Fridericus,Zitadelle,siege of Leningrad,Sevastopol,Kuban spring offensive,Charkov 1943,operation Bagration,Rzhev meatgrinder" ..

 

Those were already done, those were vast, in-depth campaigns in IL-2: Forgotten Battles.. More Eastern Front pitches, especially repeats, will burn people out.

I agree. They were also done very well.

[Brano]

Good luck with your dreams of western front 44/45 in DCS.Wont happen anytime soon in Il2 series.(why should they invest into TOE which is allready been worked on by the competition).

I will not comment on those remarks 3 post above

[Y-29.Silky]

Good luck with your dreams of western front 44/45 in DCS.Wont happen anytime soon in Il2 series.(why should they invest into TOE which is allready been worked on by the competition).

I will not comment on those remarks 3 post above

Whatever you say smartass. All I know is if they keep the Eastern Front, they'll lose more money than they deserve, it's with any game series, call of duty is a perfect example.

And why should they invest in it? It's because it hasn't been done in over 15 years, I can honestly say Janes WWII Fighters was the last serious one and that was in 1998. And most importanly, it would make them a boat load of money, that they will deserve.

 

So yes, I'll dream, and please don't comment on those remarks because you kind of remind me of Gaijin right now.

I agree. They were also done very well.

Agreed, they were done very well! All aspects from the German and Russian side!

Edited September 17, 2014 by Silky