NightBtyNightBeauty Posted September 14, 2014 Posted September 14, 2014 Hello all! NightBeauty here, And I this is my first forum post, because I really want to discuss the future of IL2 After this title has been completed. So, I have been thinking, what will 777 And 1C Do after they have made Stalingrad? I am very curious and I'm sure some of you are too. In My opinion I would love if they looked back on Pacific Fighters and made a fresh game on it, Like a Battle of Midway Game, Imagine it. Mitsubishi Zeros whizzing across the sky chasing Corsairs. And dive bombing at the Akagi Carrier. Or Perhaps Battle Of Iwo Jima. But that's what I would really like, My Father also a great fan of the IL2 Series would love a Mediterranean Theatre game. But what do you guys think? I thought it was time to bring this up as we are nearly finished with this great IL2 game, and it really shows what the great team can do, I hope you guys come back with your thoughts, Happy Flying!
1./JG42Nephris Posted September 14, 2014 Posted September 14, 2014 http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/1316-poll-next-theatre-war/
II./JG53Lutzow_z06z33 Posted September 14, 2014 Posted September 14, 2014 Hello all! NightBeauty here, And I this is my first forum post, because I really want to discuss the future of IL2 After this title has been completed. So, I have been thinking, what will 777 And 1C Do after they have made Stalingrad? I am very curious and I'm sure some of you are too. In My opinion I would love if they looked back on Pacific Fighters and made a fresh game on it, Like a Battle of Midway Game, Imagine it. Mitsubishi Zeros whizzing across the sky chasing Corsairs. And dive bombing at the Akagi Carrier. Or Perhaps Battle Of Iwo Jima. But that's what I would really like, My Father also a great fan of the IL2 Series would love a Mediterranean Theatre game. But what do you guys think? I thought it was time to bring this up as we are nearly finished with this great IL2 game, and it really shows what the great team can do, I hope you guys come back with your thoughts, Happy Flying! Never been a fan of the Pacific campaign, I'd be ok with it if they gave us a few planes and maps as long as they included a frozen drink underneath a palm tree when I'm not flying haha
II./JG77_Manu* Posted September 14, 2014 Posted September 14, 2014 there weren't corsairs at midway if there had been, the pacific war would not have lasted till 1945 Corsair was a end-war plane +1 for pacific theatre, like i already voted
Gambit21 Posted September 14, 2014 Posted September 14, 2014 there weren't corsairs at midway if there had been, the pacific war would not have lasted till 1945 Corsair was a end-war plane More like early 1943 onward - that's not exactly 'end of war' only.
sallee Posted September 14, 2014 Posted September 14, 2014 I think they'll sit in a quiet, dark room and listen to some quiet music. 4
NightBtyNightBeauty Posted September 14, 2014 Author Posted September 14, 2014 Thanks for the info! I was just kind of summing up what it was like, Zeros chasing Dauntlesses seems more correct. XD Keep up you thoughts, I didn't know this was already covered but there ya go!
Praetor Posted September 14, 2014 Posted September 14, 2014 I know the British and Canadians flew Corsairs in Europe, but I've always wondered why the US didn't use them. Redundant with the role played by P47s and Mustangs? I guess the USAAF really had no need for them and the Marines weren't involved in Europe?
NightBtyNightBeauty Posted September 14, 2014 Author Posted September 14, 2014 Seems like most people want the Mediterranean or African campaign, Or do you think they may stick with Russian Aerial Battles? Crimea?
LLv34_Flanker Posted September 14, 2014 Posted September 14, 2014 S! I would expect them to take a small break and breathe. After that a bug fixing galore and a few patches before working on anything new. There are things they propably could not do properly during development and after the deadline they have the time. Of course hoping the product sells well enough to warrant future expansions and patches.
Gambit21 Posted September 14, 2014 Posted September 14, 2014 I know the British and Canadians flew Corsairs in Europe, but I've always wondered why the US didn't use them. Redundant with the role played by P47s and Mustangs? I guess the USAAF really had no need for them and the Marines weren't involved in Europe? The US Navy/Marines were of course not involved in the European air war. Every aircraft that served in WWII by the Navy and Air Corps was on the drawing boards and ordered by the time the Japanese attacked Pearl, based on specified needs from each service, which were quite different. While the P38's and early P47's were in service, the Mustang was already on it's way. Then you have inter-service politics which also play a part to some extent as well as the politics/relationships involved with the various contractors themselves, sometimes changing drastically during development cycles. Basically though the services asked for different capabilities from their aircraft, and the Navy/Marines didn't fly in Europe.
Emgy Posted September 14, 2014 Posted September 14, 2014 (edited) ^ I would also add... NIH. Not Invented Here syndrome. There's much tribalism in the USAAF/USAF vs USN relation. Edited September 14, 2014 by Calvamos
AceRevo Posted September 14, 2014 Posted September 14, 2014 First lets see if they will have a successful launch. If they wont, there might not be a team to build further into IL-2. At least thats how I understand it. They are planning and wishing to expand IL-2 with other new theaters and Ive read once that their vision is to make something together as il-2 1946 or something. A game with different theaters and a lot of different planes for us to fly. I really wish them good luck with the release for more theaters to come.
Gambit21 Posted September 14, 2014 Posted September 14, 2014 Northrop Grumman cannot disallow an entire theater from being represented - it was licensing issues with the Grumman aircraft themselves.
Leaf Posted September 14, 2014 Posted September 14, 2014 Northrop Grumman cannot disallow an entire theater from being represented - it was licensing issues with the Grumman aircraft themselves. 'Meant that.
Gambit21 Posted September 14, 2014 Posted September 14, 2014 (edited) 'Meant that. The developer in question in the end paid the licensing fees. War Thunder uses Grumman aircraft and others under a license agreement. Edited September 14, 2014 by Gambit21
LLv34_Flanker Posted September 14, 2014 Posted September 14, 2014 S! Well Finkeren regarding your signature, it would most likely cause a laugh. Can say that as a so called "metal head"
1./KG4_Blackwolf Posted September 14, 2014 Posted September 14, 2014 (edited) As a long time Metal head I can second Flanker's post! \m/ Oh and I think the Devs will be sitting back..how do the kids say it today..counting mad stacks of bennie's?.. At least I hope, then we can see some other theaters of war. Edited September 14, 2014 by Blackwolf 1
Requiem Posted September 14, 2014 Posted September 14, 2014 I'm hoping North Africa or something. I don't know if my eyes can handle another snow based map. that way we can just replace the ground colour from white to yellow-brown 3
PA-Sniv Posted September 14, 2014 Posted September 14, 2014 Yeah, we need some more temperature! North Africa or Solomon islands could be nice!
Leaf Posted September 14, 2014 Posted September 14, 2014 I'm hoping North Africa or something. I don't know if my eyes can handle another snow based map. that way we can just replace the ground colour from white to yellow-brown Same here. Both snow and sand behave like fluids and their respective landforms are very similar. Snow drifts simply become sand dunes. North Africa or Italy would be wonderful!
bivalov Posted September 14, 2014 Posted September 14, 2014 Han said that it's will be damage model of systems of plane (after release) + http://steamcommunity.com/app/307960/discussions/0/35221031542725581/#c35221584427120709 http://steamcommunity.com/app/307960/discussions/0/35221031820855158/#c35221584362612449 http://steamcommunity.com/app/307960/discussions/0/35221031542725581/#c35221031634730733 and i think that it's will be definately not pacific, europe etc, because if already has BASIS for all yak-1 with high gargrot, la-5 type 37, lagg-3 etc, it's will be just strange... but it's only my thoughts...
Feathered_IV Posted September 14, 2014 Posted September 14, 2014 Midway would be too much of a grind for me in the long term. As much as I like the Pacific, the battle was just two weeks long. If I could wish for any compact scenario of long duration it would be Malta.
Pharoah Posted September 14, 2014 Posted September 14, 2014 Agreed. I would prefer they focus on the WTO or MTO ie: - Battle of Britain/France - Battle of Malta - North Africa - Western Europe - in the period 1942-1944 - Rhubarbs, bombing missions, anti shipping strikes, fighter sweeps (109s/190s v Spit IXs, P47s, P51Bs/Ds, P38s) This way, they can use the a/c already developed (109/190/He-111/etc) rather than trying to start a whole new theatre from scratch. 1
4H_V-man Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 Hopefully, after fine-tuning is done with BoS, the devs will do a bit more work on RoF. It's been said that various feature impliemented here will be ported to RoF. After that, I'd hope for PTO or CBI. CBI would be a theater nobody has done before with TONS of possible aircraft. The Chinese imported Italian, Russian, German, British, and American aircraft, and possibly some from other countries. Quite a lot of them used in fairly substantial numbers I've never seen modelled in a combat flight sim. It would be a HUGE map with wildly variable terrain. I would think that simply the variety of aircraft would appeal to many.
II./JG77_Manu* Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) I hope for a well balanced encounter, so that it's not an advantage to fly for "the better side". Pre-Hellcat Pacific, or Sicily would be great. Rather not france or stuff like this, it would be even more one-sided in favour of the germans. Kuban would be also great, with airacobra and La5f the russian planes would close on germans in terms of performance. Edit: Those scenarios would also provide ships and harbours to destroy, so a lot more variety for ground attackers Edited September 15, 2014 by Celestiale
Praetor Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 Malta would be pretty balanced. Spit Vs against 109 G 2/6 and Fs. Spit IX would balance against the 190s.
StickMan Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 I'd like to see some carrier ops done right. Right now however I am just hoping this will be a big enough success so we can see any further developement. As long as we get that I don't really care what comes next. Just getting more planes and more maps and maybe at least 5 yrs out this would be friggin awesome. 2
Gambit21 Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 Yep, as much as love the Pacific (my favorite) give me Mig3's, I16's, P40's, P39's, more IL2's and the Emil first.
Pharoah Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 Well....just to put it 'out there'...maybe the devs might consider something never really done in detail before ie. the Vietnam air war! ie. F4/F105/A4/A6/A1 v Mig 17/19. Again just putting it out there. 1
C-Bag Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 I know Finkeren has mentioned it,why not continue on with Kursk. And after reading more about it,forget about Spit's, Cobra's and P-40's. They were inconsequential numbers wise. Gimme a Yak3, La5 FN, or Yak 9. But mostly the Yak3. There is still so much history and wonderful aircraft that have been ignored for stuff that has been done to death, like the Pacific. The Skybridge alone would be an incredible expansion before we even leave Stalingrad. I for one appreciate that the Dev's cared enough to do something that's not the same old tired stuff. Lots of stuff happened between Stalingrad and the fall of Berlin, why do we always have to fall back to the familiar? 2
II./JG77_Manu* Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 Well....just to put it 'out there'...maybe the devs might consider something never really done in detail before ie. the Vietnam air war! ie. F4/F105/A4/A6/A1 v Mig 17/19. Again just putting it out there. and mig21...YES would be awesome . I also would appreciate Korea, because i am not to big a fan of missiles. But i could fly russians in Vietnam anyway . Would be goddamn awesome with this game engine. I know Finkeren has mentioned it,why not continue on with Kursk. And after reading more about it,forget about Spit's, Cobra's and P-40's. They were inconsequential numbers wise. Gimme a Yak3, La5 FN, or Yak 9. But mostly the Yak3. There is still so much history and wonderful aircraft that have been ignored for stuff that has been done to death, like the Pacific. The Skybridge alone would be an incredible expansion before we even leave Stalingrad. I for one appreciate that the Dev's cared enough to do something that's not the same old tired stuff. Lots of stuff happened between Stalingrad and the fall of Berlin, why do we always have to fall back to the familiar? yeah would be also very nice. Yak3 against G14AS just hope that those developers will make some flight sims...just awesome how they do it (in contrast to the rest what you have seen the last ~10 years)
Gambit21 Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 Well....just to put it 'out there'...maybe the devs might consider something never really done in detail before ie. the Vietnam air war! ie. F4/F105/A4/A6/A1 v Mig 17/19. Again just putting it out there. Yeah not happening.
ShamrockOneFive Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 Whatever they do... I hope they code it so that all of these products in the series work well together. Login to one game and swap around theatres as desired. 1
ACG_KaiLae Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 I know Finkeren has mentioned it,why not continue on with Kursk. And after reading more about it,forget about Spit's, Cobra's and P-40's. They were inconsequential numbers wise. Gimme a Yak3, La5 FN, or Yak 9. But mostly the Yak3. There is still so much history and wonderful aircraft that have been ignored for stuff that has been done to death, like the Pacific. The Skybridge alone would be an incredible expansion before we even leave Stalingrad. I for one appreciate that the Dev's cared enough to do something that's not the same old tired stuff. Lots of stuff happened between Stalingrad and the fall of Berlin, why do we always have to fall back to the familiar? Fully filling out the eastern front would make the most sense first. Additional maps, additional planes. ME-110, JU-88, JU-52, additional ME-109 variants, additional FW-190 variants, ME-410, HS-129, DO-217. Of course many russian aircraft such as the LA-5F and FN, Yak-1B, Yak-3, Yak-7, Yak-9, IL-4, TU-2, SU-2. But to say that the numbers of lend lease aircraft were inconsequential is just false. Bell supplied nearly 5000 P-39's alone, and there were substantial numbers of hurricanes, P-40's, A-20's and a fair number of B-25's as well. In fact during the stalingrad campaign 2 squadrons were flying the P-40, making it a excellent addition. I'm guessing they'll finish rounding out the stalingrad theater of planes first - the MC 200 and IAR 80 too - and after that move on to other areas. But it all depends on how the project goes. We'll see. 4
1PL-Husar-1Esk Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) Spanish Civil War plz. or early Barbarosa campagin. Place for 109, He 111 and I-16. Edited September 15, 2014 by tomcatqw 1
Pharoah Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 Yeah not happening. lol awwww spoil sport. Jokes aside - WW2 had so many theatres that will probably keep 777 busy for years to come, esp if its at the quality we're seeing now. I still think they should branch into the WTO - not everyone likes russian a/c or the eastern front. I'd prefer something North Africa (includes vehicles, aircraft and shipping) or 1944 post invasion western europe to include stuff like Spit IXs, Hawker Typhoon/Tempest, 109 G's and K's, P47s, P51s, P38s, FW190s, B17s, B25s, B26s, B24s - even if just AI - plus infantry/vehicles/armour/etc. Yeah its a lot but a lot was happening at the same time all along the western front after the landings. OR even the 'soft underbelly' (italy/sicily/etc)
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