War Thunder ?

[taffy2jeffmorgan]

Hi. I fly BoS at the moment, but have flown Clod and IL-2 Sturmovik, but from time to time the name "War Thunder" is used sometimes as a comparison, I have been onto their website which looks very impressive and it also is a massive 6 GB+ download.

 

But is it worth the download time and is it multiplayer based? thought I would ask your opinion.

 

 

Cheers. JM.

[Finkeren]

It's World of Tanks with airplanes.

 

There is nothing approaching a sim there, but it can be a fun multiplayer game, if you're not expecting realism in FM or DM nor any kind of historical accuracy and don't mind being outflown by preteens high on Mountain Dew and Ritalin who fly using a mouse.

[GOAT-ACEOFACES]

High on mountain dew!

 

Yeah, I tried it awhile back, great eye candy, but, as Finkeren noted, don't expect anything realistic! It is basically a Quake flight sim, which can be fun from time to time, but no real holding of my interest, mater of fact I don't even have it installed on my new pc

[kestrel79]

It's FREE, give it a shot.

 

If you're a flight simmer (and we all are here) then I'd only play on "Simulator Battles" difficulty which is locked cockpit, no icons, and no assisted keyboard and mouse controls allowed. It's actually not that bad if you play with those settings.

 

Graphics are great and give off good fps on a 3 screen system, but yeah it's not very historical or has the detail as DCS or BoS. But lots of maps and plane sets and again, it's FREE.

[Leaf]

Save yourself the bother. 
The main problem is matchmaking, or rather the lack of it. When you start playing, expect to face Hellcats in your 109E1. Further along the line, expect Bearcats in your G2 and F86's in your Me 262. It's apalling.
Added to that are the waiting times, usually around 10 mins to get into a "realistic" server, even longer for simulator battles.

etc.

etc. 

I won't go on, it's too depressing. 
Give it a go if you have time to waste. 

Edited September 5, 2014 by 19te.Leaf

[AceRevo]

 

Hi. I fly BoS at the moment, but have flown Clod and IL-2 Sturmovik, but from time to time the name "War Thunder" is used sometimes as a comparison, I have been onto their website which looks very impressive and it also is a massive 6 GB+ download.

 

But is it worth the download time and is it multiplayer based? thought I would ask your opinion.

 

 

Cheers. JM. 

 

http://warthunder.com/en/registration?r=userinvite_14826611

 

War thunder isnt really that bad but it got its flaws. Im pretty sure I will enjoy BoS more, which will probably become my main combat sim.

 

There are some downs though! F.eks the latest patch they told us theyve fixed the hit detection and the accuracy of all guns and calibers. The germans guns were about useless becouse of all the sparkle..

Now it seems to have gotten worse.. I emptied my whole 900 rounds of 20mm with the corsair 1c into a 109 and all my shots and hits just sparkled off.. on my last burst I just got a critical hit and had to rtb becouse I was now out of ammo.. On my way back game just ended becouse of tickets bleeded out. The 109 I critted stayed in air and no kills rewarded. You may also encoutner fustration of shooting down a plane just to see he ''crashed''. 

 

WT got alot of planes to chose from and many maps but be aware, you will quickly see how theyre going for quantity over quality. Several planes still dont have got their propper FM and theres no way to tell if its complete or not. These planes got placeholder FM and theres quite a number of them. 

 

The good thing about it is their count numbers of planes but Ive decided to take a break or even delete the game when my joystick arrives. I might only come back for a look when they release the corsiar F4U-4c but that may take some while. 

 

they also got ground units and ships will probably be released next year. When the game is done with its open beta stage, theyre planning on making a World War mode with planes, ships and ground forces in one game. 

 

Multiplayer only tho there are some single player missions but you need to be connected to play. 

 

And the last heads up, as mentioned here, the match making really sucks. 

 

 

But hey, its free, take a look and jugde for yourself. If you'd like, you can use this link http://warthunder.com/en/registration?r=userinvite_14826611 to recive 50GE (Golden Eagles, a currency in game you can only get by paying real money). This can be used on crew skills like how much fatigue your pilot got to handle higher G's. 

 

If you use this link, when you reach your first tier 2 plane or vehicle I will get 50.000 silver lion (which is the ingame currency you can earn in battles and use on planes and upgrades) and when you reach tier 3 I will get 100GE and for the last tier 5 I will get 500GE. 

 

Like I said though, when my joystick arrives I will leave WT and will most probably only come back to have a peak at the Corsair F4U-4c whenever that will come! 

Edited September 5, 2014 by AceRevo

[Leaf]

 

That's another issue. Just....just look. It's a test of Mk 108 30mm cannons versus Browning .50 cals.

Edited September 5, 2014 by 19te.Leaf

[SOLIDKREATE]

I play War Thunder when I just want to fly around brain dead and just rage.

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

 Leaf. Be sure the .50cal is better for downing B17G's than the 30mm MK108 Ridiculous game, I dumped it already after alpha and beta stages. Could see where it was going, down the hill and fast.

[Finkeren]

The amazing thing to me is, that just yesterday we had people argueing that WT looks better than BoS. I mean: just look at the video

 

Anyway enough bashing of WT. It is what it is: A casual game/MMO where grinding points is the primary goal. It can be fun, if you're not expecting more than that.

Edited September 6, 2014 by Finkeren

[Leaf]

S!

 

 Leaf. Be sure the .50cal is better for downing B17G's than the 30mm MK108 Ridiculous game, I dumped it already after alpha and beta stages. Could see where it was going, down the hill and fast.

 

Yeah, it's pretty apalling. I stopped playing when I couldn't be arsed to wait 15 minutes to get into a match anymore. I mean, why would I even wait to play a game like that, LOL. 

 

But as Finkeren said, if you want some light-hearted fun, go into Arcade mode. At least the game is good at that.

[6./ZG26_5tuka]

It's suprising you actually heared the name "War Thunder" in relation to BoS and Clod. Most likely not in a good matter i assume

 

Fun aside it's  not compareable in anything else than dealing with flight. It's not even attempting to be an authetic WW2 game so you bbetter drop your utopias of githing Mustangs and B-17s with Me 262s and Ta 152s right away when playing it.

 

It's biggest issue? Well there are infact many. It's not worth calling them here as you'll read at least 3 rage threads every day for each of them on their forum. Which just leads to another point.

Apart form their straight flawed game their comunity treatment is totally unacceptable with great amounts of censorship and sugarcoating pathing it's way threw the whole forum.

 

Don't take my words if you don't mind giving it a try and expect to be not impressed. The fact is is free is it's best strengh, since it doen't rly encourage spending money on ingame content.

[Finkeren]

 

That's another issue. Just....just look. It's a test of Mk 108 30mm cannons versus Browning .50 cals.

 

"They're tank busters Sir. P-51s!"

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfigpjOTZvs

[MACADEMIC]

It's suprising you actually heared the name "War Thunder" in relation to BoS and Clod. Most likely not in a good matter i assume

 

The more you hear War Thunder in relation to BOS, CloD and DCS, the better for the genre. As it is now there's hardly a danger of any of these titles losing customers to WT, but WT brings new players to these titles.

 

MAC

[kestrel79]

I just fired up Tanks for the first time in Warthunder on my ps4. Pretty fun! I think I'm going to fly on my PC rig and tank on my ps4. I want to play SB mode but the wait was too long for early tiered tanks so I switched to RB.

[II./JG27_Rich]

I would stick with BOS and the Team Fusion Cliffs Of Dover. Wait for the Team Fusion Mediterranean addon for Cliffs Of Dover.

[181st_Oz*]

It's not a realistic game, can't be compared with the simulators, if you go with realism you might get some bad habits as well but,

it's a free game, fast paced, good looking, optimized mmo, you can give it a try.

 

Downside is,

Unlocks, mouse control, constantly changing balance, weird damage model, constantly adjusted flight model etc...

 

The thing is, it's a magnet for people that never tried flight simulators before.

 

The more you hear War Thunder in relation to BOS, CloD and DCS, the better for the genre. As it is now there's hardly a danger of any of these titles losing customers to WT, but WT brings new players to these titles.

 

MAC

 

This is the big picture if you get it.

[AceRevo]

It's not a realistic game, can't be compared with the simulators, if you go with realism you might get some bad habits as well but,

it's a free game, fast paced, good looking, optimized mmo, you can give it a try.

 

Downside is,

Unlocks, mouse control, constantly changing balance, weird damage model, constantly adjusted flight model etc...

 

The thing is, it's a magnet for people that never tried flight simulators before.

 

 

This is the big picture if you get it.

It does got Simulator battles wich are games with no mouse aim, but yeah, in terms of physic it cant be compared to BoS. It sure is a good starting point for those who never tried sims before becouse they may want to get themself a joystick and try SB then they want the more real deal, hopefully :D 

[6./ZG26_5tuka]

It does got Simulator battles wich are games with no mouse aim, but yeah, in terms of physic it cant be compared to BoS. It sure is a good starting point for those who never tried sims before becouse they may want to get themself a joystick and try SB then they want the more real deal, hopefully :D 

This is a main issue of trying to get into aerial combat in my opinion. Sure it's decent enought to get into flying, shooting and situational awareness, but less for learning more advanced combat manouvres or master energy fighting.

 

Did some flying again a couple of days ago with squad mates who don't own BoS and no matter how I tryed to fight it always went totally wrong. It's just such a different expirience form BoS since you get the impression of fighting on Mars with ultra low gravity and strange stall characteristics prohibiting any stall fighting.

 

Fighting in War thunder I feel I have less freedom of acting intuitive and without any feel for the plane, you feel like a machine having to fly it the limited way it forces you. In BoS I gain this feeling of intuitivy again, which makes air combat more "fresh" and "lively".

 

Infact I got a noticeably better feeling for air combat flying in RoF than in WT. Without it I'd probably do a lot worse in BoS and had to take deep lessons you can't learn form in WT.

Edited September 10, 2014 by [Jg26]5tuka

[IRRE_Belmont]

Best thing about war thunder

But seriously , it's a nice game, a bit frustrating sometimes, but overall , it's good

Edited September 10, 2014 by Belmont_FR

[kestrel79]

The Devblog posted today shows off some new machine gun sounds coming in the new update. Much improved over the current sounds. I hope the in cockpit sounds are new too.

[JayeMoultry]

 

That's another issue. Just....just look. It's a test of Mk 108 30mm cannons versus Browning .50 cals.

 

wow! awesome!

[I/JG27_Rollo]

It's quite simple: if you wanna fly warbirds, use (any) IL-2; if you wanna drive tanks, use W(o)T.

[kestrel79]

Anyone have any good key bindings for tanks in SB? What keys do you use for throttle, shifting, changing rounds?

[Guest deleted@30725]

It's OK.

 

I'd recommend it for people that are unsure about flight sims like I was. I'd not played a flying game for over 10 years.  I tried it for a while using the mouse and it made me decide to upgrade to a joystick, try realistic and then sim modes. 

 

I then discovered dcs, Il2 - clod with team fusion update and will be buying bos soon.

 

War Thunder ends up being a grindy game and a quest for more planes, but it is quite fun for 5 minutes as an arcade plane shooter.

 

You have to play online to get experience to unlock planes and unlocking a plane after the first few tiers is life draining. You can pay for premium that speeds it up a bit, but you can easily sink $200 and not see any real return for your investment. 

 

The community is also fairly toxic as everyone appears to be annoyed at the current state of the game. I stopped enjoying it a while ago.

 

It looks nice though  and is apparently  a bit better than wot alternative world of warplanes. 

 

Don't even try tanks in War Thunder as they are really un-finished under the models.

 

Look forward to playing against you guys.

Edited September 17, 2014 by deleted@30725

[kaboki]

I find it hard to actually critisize WT because they are giving it away for FREE and they never advertised it as a full blown SIM so no one should expect that. It's more like an hybrid between a SIM and a arcade game and may be excellent for new people who never had any expirience with SIMS to try before they dive into the more serious simulators.

 

What I miss going from WT too BoS is the flak. I think the flak in WT was awsome and actually scary and gave a feel of being surronded by AA, in BoS I think the flak looks abit dull, and if I don't look behind me I won't even notice it's there because it always fire behind my tail and not all around me like in WT, ROF and Il2 CoD. In short im not very impressed by the flak in BoS

[=LD=Hethwill]

I find it hard to actually critisize WT because they are giving it away for FREE and they never advertised it as a full blown SIM 

 

Sorry to burst the bubble, but they did and they got some attention from many given that Text on website and other documentation clearly stated simulator and was changed after many pressure and disappointment of the community FRBwise. Also they had 64 players matches aimed for and advertised. Then it was changed to 32.

Edited September 19, 2014 by =LD=Hethwill_Khan

[kaboki]

Sorry to burst the bubble, but they did and they got some attention from many given that Text on website and other documentation clearly stated simulator and was changed after many pressure and disappointment of the community FRBwise. Also they had 64 players matches aimed for and advertised. Then it was changed to 32.

 

Ah my bad didn't know, when I downloaded this was their advertising "War Thunder is a next generation MMO combat game dedicated to World War II military aviation"..

 

But still they are giving it away for free:p, so no one is loosing money on trying it out, and if they don't like then they can move on without having to spend a dime:p. I have moved on too BoS, but I miss certain elements like the amazing flak in WT and I think the clouds looked better too in WT(personal opinion).

Edited September 19, 2014 by kaboki

[6./ZG26_5tuka]

You have a different perspective than most of us here I guess. Some of us had expierienced a 3 year development regarding WT and have spend a lot o time and efforts to help it grow, be it as a moderator, Alpha/Beta tester or even FM deisgner. New players for sure set their bar lower because of their lower devotion and the fact they might not even pay for it (I did and I knwo a few guys who payed lots of money not interested in this game anymore).

 

Flak in WT is increadibly bad. Once entering a AAA zone it's a pure dice game if you get killed instantly or not, no matter where the AAA shoot, how much you dodge or how fast you are. BoS AAA seems a little weak, but I think it's because we lack smaller calibre AAA guns like the 20mm Flakvierling or Flak 38. Those were far more comonly used than 88s and proved to be effective against low alt flying targets.

 

And yes WT had (and still has) an ongoing volatile development with lots of design changes, lies and last but not least customer cheating. At some point you start spitting on your customers you don't have to think about why they leave your game.

[[JG2]Phen0m]

WT reeks period.

[kaboki]

You have a different perspective than most of us here I guess. Some of us had expierienced a 3 year development regarding WT and have spend a lot o time and efforts to help it grow, be it as a moderator, Alpha/Beta tester or even FM deisgner. New players for sure set their bar lower because of their lower devotion and the fact they might not even pay for it (I did and I knwo a few guys who payed lots of money not interested in this game anymore).

 

I guess I have, I just tried it a few weeks ago so I don't know to much about it's history. But you choose to pay for it no one forced you. Bying into a early acces games is always a risk.

 

Flak in WT is increadibly bad. Once entering a AAA zone it's a pure dice game if you get killed instantly or not, no matter where the AAA shoot, how much you dodge or how fast you are. BoS AAA seems a little weak, but I think it's because we lack smaller calibre AAA guns like the 20mm Flakvierling or Flak 38. Those were far more comonly used than 88s and proved to be effective against low alt flying targets.

 

Flak may be bad or not in WT, but it sure the hell looks alot better visually(spectacular) and feels better when running into it(aircraft shakes and stuff). Flying over flak in BoS doesn't look good at all, you can hardly see any flak except a few explosions behind your 6(3-4), and it sure isn't any dangerous.

[I/JG27_Rollo]

They must have changed that at some point because earlier iterations of BoS flak were guaranteed to shoot you down if you flew straight and level for even a short period of time.

In fact, I got shot down just yesterday in a Stuka after pulling out from a diving attack.

 

It may be dependent on the amount of guns positioned anywhere.

Are you talking about flak in QMB missions or on a server?

[kaboki]

I only play online so Im talking about servers...

[6./ZG26_5tuka]

I only play online so Im talking about servers...

It depends on the server settings and unit placement than. The Syndicate server has some AAA issues currently so it may seem "weak" when attacking in groups. Against single targets it's very effective though.

 

On the Eagle's nest server on the other hand are many small AAA calibre guns protecting the airfields which will nleash a heavy barrage once they spot a target. It's not as deadly as the other plane game (which is a good thing since fighters were difficult to hit in reality) though I could even see lots of shrapnel blasting against my cockpit while flying though.

 

Flyig with high speed through a AAA zone and complaining about not beng hit is more a call for unrealism than anything else though.