One little thing I don't like in the game

[SeriousFox]

http://youtu.be/UJ2bk-FTCYU

 

 

This happens every time I fly near enemy airport   

 

I have 0 experience getting killed by an AAA in RoF, current AAA feels like modern SAM turret xD

[Leaf]

Yeah, I noticed that too; at low levels especially the flak (not so much machine guns) is very accurate. Whether that is historical or not, I don't know.

[Willy__]

I dont mind getting shot by flak if im flying low and slow near an enemy field, but it appears to have no difference whatsoever as I get shot flying 4-5km height at 400-500km/h the same way I get shot down flying low and slow over the enemy field... Maybe they're still tweaking this ?

Edited August 30, 2014 by istruba

[KoN_]

Its hard hitting moving targets and even AAA gunners found it hard in the second world war .

Edited August 30, 2014 by II/JG77_Con

[LoneMerc]

I'm on the fence with flak. It is very deadly and I'm sure it was in RL. I'm just not sure what to think right now. I fly bombers which already have 2 strikes against you. I noticed the accuracy is high and get hit more often and shot down at or below 3000m above that I can still get hit but less frequent and the chance of a critical hit is still there. If you fly solo then yeah you have 4 or 5 guns train on you only so chances are you will get hit, if in a group or furball close their guns are all over trying to hit different targets which increases your chances of making it out alive.

 

Yes moving and jinking around after bomb drop does work I made it home alot but also died alot. There is nothing you can do in a high level bomb run but to take it and hope for the best until you drop bombs,

[III/JG52_Llucmk]

Guys... i don't know how much accuarate is the AAA from airfields... the only thing i can say is...

 

- Don't fly at low speeds...

- Try to avoid some easy angels for AAA (like in the video, that's bad...)

- Try to avoid point of 0 movements in X and Y exes... 

- Fly fast and and try to avoid bullets making soft "S".

- If this guy can avoid that Huge AAA fire... You can. Try to use that good Technic http://youtu.be/8whPvW85a0E 

 

 

If you still being shot down, you have a big bad luck...

 

It's true that i'm beeing shot down almosts always by AAA with He-111 at 2000-3000m and with ju-87 at low altitude...

[4H_V-man]

We don't have anything like the amount of flak they had to put up with in real life. I doubt our PCs could handle it.

 

Here's a handy film from WW II on how to avoid flak:

 

[PreachR]

I agree with the OP. The flak is too accurate at high altitudes. I had it closely following me at over 6,000 m. I've also had it obliterate my plane at other high altitudes before, and usually while I was maneuvering. Low altitude is one thing, but pinpointing fighters at high altitude is silly and annoying.

[3instein]

Must admit that in the QMB I nearly always put in the AAA,and have never been shot down with it.

My plane has been damaged only a couple of times but never to an extent that I have to bail.

 

Mick.

[Finkeren]

At high altitude, which is really anything above 2000m, I'm usually only hit, when I fly straight and level for an extended period of time, in which case the flak really should be able to hit me. Sure there is the odd lucky shot, but to me they seem rare enough to be believable.

 

My problem with flak in BoS lies somewhere else. I have 2 main concerns:

 

1. Heavy flak can hit targets flying low at high speeds. Half the time when I'm shot down over an enemy airfield, I'm blown to bits by a heavy artillery shell. The 88s shouldn't even be firing at me at that altitude.

 

Which leads me to my second grievance:

 

2. The AAA is trigger happy. They fire at any target in the air, no matter the distance, altitude, flight pattern etc. There needs to be some rules of engagement. Where heavy flak only fires at high flying targets, and only if they are flying straight and level, and the 20mm, 37mm and 40mm guns should only fire at Groups of aircraft or single aircraft that directly threatens them.

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

 Their tracking speeds could also use a check aka how fast guns are traversed. If you look at AAA with camera view you see them track you even they have no visuals on you, just because you are inside their "engagement range bubble". Lower calibre like 40mm or below is capable of tracking a faster target as that is their job, close range AAA. 

[SCG_Neun]

Nice reference site on German Flak:

 

http://www.lonesentry.com/articles/flak/

[Dakpilot]

Some extended reading of the above for those who are interested

 

http://www.lonesentry.com/manuals/german_aa/index.html

 

Cheers Dakpilot

[Juri_JS]

If BoS is similar to RoF the problem might be the AI setting of AA guns in the QMB mission templates. In RoF the AI settings are low, normal and high. At the moment we can't do any tests, because we don't have the mission builder, but maybe the AA will be less lethal when the low AI setting is used.

[Elbows]

RoF AAA was occasionally merciless...hope this isn't the case in BoS (but as mentioned when the mission maker appears you can diminish their skill hopefully...)

[354thFG_Leifr]

Well, I've dug out this thread with the sole purpose of venting.

Running Jabo raids is nigh on impossible, at least on Syndicate. I'm lining myself up for the target (Russian dispersal) at Erzovka, running at 600km/h, height 70m or so, AA takes off my wing in one burst at bomb release - I find it incredibly hard to suspend disbelief when this is occurring on a regular basis. Flak guns should not be firing that low and hitting high-speed targets with regularity, ever.

Edited September 3, 2014 by Leifr

[=AVG=Zombie]

I agree, it needs tweeking.... allthough it does take care of the pilot that all he does is fly around your base and shoot you when you spawn in.....   thats good in the dogfight servers but needs to be dialed down a touch in mission oriented servers...

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

 If AAA retains same accuracy at night than during day in BoS, then something is really wrong with it. A plane in the dark going nearly 600km/h at tree top height would be next to impossible to hit unless you knew exactly where it came from and had a well timed barrage of AAA. Otherwise it is more like a shot in the dark. And search lights the same thing. Germans had radar guided searchlights, usually bluish ray indicating them so human operated lights could pinpoint on a found target faster. But on eastern front I doubt either Germans or Russians had radar guidance on every field to flak or search lights.