Descolada Posted August 28, 2014 Posted August 28, 2014 On servers without autobalance I've been noticing that Germany almost always has 50% more players than Russia does. It degrades the gameplay for everyone wanting to fly Russian planes in addition to being historically inaccurate. Naturally this is to be expected, the German fighters are significantly better than any of the Russian offerings and so people flock to the easy mode planes.
Sunde Posted August 28, 2014 Posted August 28, 2014 I disagree, on the syndicate server, i'v seen the numbers go "18-26" in favour of the Allies, and FYI it does not take a hero to fly Russian machines in this sim, they are very competetive.
Vaxxtx Posted August 28, 2014 Posted August 28, 2014 It also is not historically accurate to get shot down and then respawn. Also, its not historically accurate to have more newer players flying for Germany and not accurate to have more good players flying for Russia. To make it more accurate, have more Russian planes on the server with worse skill pilots, have German players be much more skilled but in smaller numbers, and if you get shot down, jump out of your chair hit yourself in the head, and turn off your PC....you are dead. In all seriousness, dont join a server that does not have it. Kinda makes it a non-issue, right? 1
VR-DriftaholiC Posted August 28, 2014 Posted August 28, 2014 It's funny to see people going back and forth thinking the enemy has the better planes only to be cannon fodder where the grass was greener. I personally have no problem being competitive in a LAGG-3 You need to know your planes strengths and the enemy's weaknesses. 2
Descolada Posted August 28, 2014 Author Posted August 28, 2014 I disagree, on the syndicate server, i'v seen the numbers go "18-26" in favour of the Allies, and FYI it does not take a hero to fly Russian machines in this sim, they are very competetive. Thats not as acceptable either, the number swings are very silly as it stands.
Chuck_Owl Posted August 28, 2014 Posted August 28, 2014 On servers without autobalance I've been noticing that Germany almost always has 50% more players than Russia does. It degrades the gameplay for everyone wanting to fly Russian planes in addition to being historically inaccurate. Naturally this is to be expected, the German fighters are significantly better than any of the Russian offerings and so people flock to the easy mode planes. No. Lots of us have been dead sick of Auto-Balance and I am GLAD it's gone in servers like US Eagles and Syndicate. I'm sure I'm not the only one. 3
6./ZG26_5tuka Posted August 28, 2014 Posted August 28, 2014 Autobalance had sense when less people and planes were availabel but it rly became more of a hindering than a positive aspect of current MP. Squadrom flight was nearly limited to very few occassions (even flying with 2 in a single wing became a struggle for waiting till autobalance decided to allow it). There weren't few ocassions I was forced to change side due to max. player count on the other, wait for the side change penalty to time out onyl to be forced to changed back again due to autobalance hitting in. I very much welcome the new server envirounments without it and even don't mind the sometimes great outnumbering opposition. Calling german planes to be easy mode is arguably, as they tend to have very fragile engiens and take less beatings than their russian counterparts (apart from the Heinkel). So my 2 cents is don't keep autoblanance, just attract some more people to fill up the gaps by desinging appeling mission objectives for both factions (similar to what the Syndicate server did attempt).
Gambit21 Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 I'm sure I'm not the only one. Indeed you are not. 1
Feathered_IV Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 If MP variety is going to be whittled down so that every engagement balances on the head of a pin, then I'm going back to singleplayer.
71st_AH_Hooves Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 While i understand the OP's concern. I have seen that auto balance off's benefits FAR out weigh its drawbacks. I can only comment for the US Eagles Nest server. AUTOBALANCE is remaining off.
71st_AH_Cujo Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 Please don't. It'll kill the squadron flights.
LoneMerc Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 No auto balance, Besides many of us are bombers on missions and not tangling with fighters so the numbers don't mean much. Don't you want to shoot down our fat slow bombers? Come on...you know you want to..
354thFG_Leifr Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 In the instances where the Germans heavily outnumber the Russians on Syndicate, it's worth remembering that there's going to be at least five or six folk flying the resupply route in the HE-111s. As far as Russians should be concerned, that's a free passage to bagging a few kills. Find the corridor they use and come in from an unexpected angle (just not NE --- SW), job done.
FlatSpinMan Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 Well what are the Devs supposed to do? Really? They got whined at for ages for enforcing Auto-balance. Turn it off and what happens? I understand the arguments, but there's no way to please both sides. If players were more fair-minded they'd ensure a reasonable balance themselves, but they aren't so there's not. Whaddaya gonna do? (shrug)
marklar Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 (edited) Naturally this is to be expected, the German fighters are significantly better than any of the Russian offerings and so people flock to the easy mode planes. German fighter planes were better during WW2 but not in this game where planes are modelled according to construction plans where you do not take into account materials and production quality. People prefer to fly German planes from completely different reason, not because they are better. I agree with you regarding auto-balance. It should be enabled on some servers. Edited August 29, 2014 by marklar
MarcoRossolini Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 I've been flying Soviets with the teams being drastically different, it's been great. A very target rich environment.
6high Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 (edited) Please don't. It'll kill the squadron flights. That`s the killer argument against balancing... Edited August 29, 2014 by 6high
Capt_Hook Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 The benefits of the German planes requires a more disciplined approach to flying to exploit. There are some pilots willing to bring that discipline, especially as some of the servers are now running multi-hour missions, but the majority are still playing it like the beta it is... mixing it up no matter the tactical situation. In that kind of environment, nothing beats the Yak.
FlatSpinMan Posted August 29, 2014 Posted August 29, 2014 People see different sides of this issue for different reasons. No-one has the 'right' opinion. I intend to lock this shortly unless anyone has any breath-taking revelations to share.
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