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Poll: what Soviet lend-lease fighter are you looking forward to?


What lend-lease fighter would like us to add to BoS?  

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  1. 1. What lend-lease fighter would like us to add to BoS?

    • Hawker Hurricane II
      177
    • Curtiss P-40
      560

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Posted

You probabaly remember the previous official poll regarding non-German Luftwaffe planes. Here goes another one and it should be equally interesting because we are now choosing one of lend-lease aircraft to be available for Soviet fighter pilots.

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FlatSpinMan
Posted

Well now THIS is going to attract some interest!!!

I voted for the Hawk. The Hurri is a dear old girl but I would really like some a bit more survivable with which to take on Friedrich's and Gustav's.

Trooper117
Posted (edited)

Hurricane MkIIb.. with the Vokes filter was the first Hurricane aircraft type for the Soviet Union.

Sent over with RAF 151 Wing, 81 and 134 Squadrons.

The Hurri in your picture is the Type I'm talking about. It depicts Gen Kuznetsov (first Soviet fighter pilot to fly the Hurricane). Closely followed by Boris Safonov.

It was also painted and marked by the RAF for Gen Kuznetsov.

 

Love the Tomahawk as well, probably my favourite fighter of WWII, and another early lend lease type sent over by the RAF.

Note I said the Tomahawk not the Kittyhawk. (your pic shows the early P.40 Tomahawk series, not the later Kittyhawk E series)

 

Want them both, lol!

Edited by Trooper117
Posted

As far as I know there were no Hurri's over Stalingrad. ( But who am I... ;) )

Murmansk and Karelian Front yes but Stalingrad?

 

Therefore I choose the P-40 but I also like the Hurricane very much.

Posted

Voted Hurricane, loved to fly that one in old IL2. It may not have served around Stalingrad, but was around in the same time frame, and it would surely come to use in other theaters and non-historic flight scenarios or QMB. Hurricane had some nice field mods as well. 

I/JG27_Rollo
Posted

That's a reeeeeally difficult choice but...

[...]
I voted for the Hawk. The Hurri is a dear old girl but I would really like some a bit more survivable with which to take on Friedrich's and Gustav's.

... I can follow that reasoning. P-40s might be more of a challenge to face than Hurricanes.

Hopefully we'll see both in due time.

Trooper117
Posted

Voted Hurricane, loved to fly that one in old IL2. It may not have served around Stalingrad, but was around in the same time frame, and it would surely come to use in other theaters and non-historic flight scenarios or QMB. Hurricane had some nice field mods as well.

There is talk of an add on after the initial release if it goes well.. Lend lease types were mentioned for the add on.. so this could be looking into that direction I guess.

SYN_Vander
Posted

Oooohhh tough choice! Have to think this one through... Both aircraft would also fit nicely in a North Africa scenario (which should really be be a bonus map!!), but since I love the sharkmouth of 112sqn it has to be the Tomahawk!

Posted

I voted P-40, but if the Hurricane might be a IIc model, count my vote as pro Hurricane. I just love the bad ass 4xHispano guns.

Posted (edited)

P-40 for the very simple reason of it was there, the Hurricane wasnt. Otherwise you might as well throw out the ambition to have an appropriate plane set for the scenario/map we'll have for them.

Edited by TJT
Posted

Actually in the running up phase to Stalingrad (July) there was one division equipped with Hurricanes - 235th IAD with 46 IAP, 180 IAP (withdrawn mid-July due to losses), 191 IAP and 436 IAP. BC/RS 3 mentions them last on July 22 so I don't know if they stayed or were eventually pulled out.


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No105_Swoose
Posted (edited)

I love the Hurricane in flight simulations for some of the reasons RL pilots liked it: relatively easy-to-fly, fairly easy to land compared to a Spitfire, and can take a fair amount of damage.  OTOH it's slow.  So I voted for the P-40 to have something slightly more survivable in which to fly.  My dream would be that, building on the success of IL-2 Sturmovik: Battle of Stalingrad, 1CDGS and 777 would develop a North African/Mediterranean Theater of Operations sim where both the P-40 and Hurricane featured prominently in helping stop Rommel's Afrika Korps. :happy:

Edited by Swoose
Posted

 

Actually in the running up phase to Stalingrad (July) there was one division equipped with Hurricanes - 235th IAD with 46 IAP, 180 IAP (withdrawn mid-July due to losses), 191 IAP and 436 IAP. BC/RS 3 mentions them last on July 22 so I don't know if they stayed or were eventually pulled out.

 

 

 

According to C F Geusts post (far down by the end) as an update to his "Red Stars Vol.4 - Lend-lease aircraft in Russia"

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235 IAD was attached to 8 VA. In addition to the mentioned three regiments (46, 180, and 436 IAP) also 191 IAP was briefly equipped with Hurricanes. The division was practically annihilated in late summer 1942 (???

  • 4 weeks later...
01Wingchaps
Posted

=KAG=Bersrk, thanks for that film clip. We must have the P-40 now.

 

Any talk of the Hurricane is to be set aside until a similar clip can be posted...  ;)

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

P40 for me!!  :cool:

 

Voss

Posted (edited)

First P40 but later hopefully both...

 

@Bersrk

 

Cinema Memories..... thx....

Edited by Corto
Posted

P-40, P-39

Posted (edited)

Hawker Hurricane so we could have Murmansk and "Force Benedict" re-enacted. Obviously not Stalingrad, but a great possibility for expansion as part of the lend-lease missions ;)

 

Some great info. here:

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1181390/Stalins-British-heroes-The-discovery-forgotten-medal-reveals-extraordinary-courage-RAF-aces-fought-Soviet-Union.html

 

and here:

 

http://www.wartimenews.co.uk/murmansk.html

 

and here:

 

http://lend-lease.airforce.ru/english/articles/sheppard/hurricanes/index.htm

 

and here:

 

http://lend-lease.airforce.ru/english/articles/sheppard/hurricane_Z5252/index.htm

 

and here with some pics from the Hurricane's based at Vaenga:

 

http://81squadron.com/WW%202.htm

 

and finally for those who speak Russian, they used a small clip of Eric Carter that I filmed (last surviving member of 81 Squadron who flew in Russia) in a news article over there. He turns up at approx. 3m 55secs in the news article, which includes some great footage of the Hurricane's and aircraft in Murmansk:

 

http://www.vesti.ru/videos?vid=298438

 

 

I think the lend-lease in Murmansk would be a fascinating addition ;)

 

Cheers, MP

Edited by Mysticpuma
Posted

Given those two, I ave to say P-40, but I would much rather see a P-39 to be honest.

Original_Uwe
Posted

P-40, followed by P-39, followed by Hurricane.

But P-40 by a HUGE margin.

Please, just please take my money and turn it into a P-40!

Skoshi_Tiger
Posted

I voted P-40 but then again it would be sweet to take a cannon armed Hurricane out against some ground targets!

Posted

P-39, don't really care about the other two :)

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79_vRAF_Friendly_flyer
Posted

Hurricane!

 

P-40 is nice and all, but Hurricane really is my cup of tea.

III/JG53Frankyboy
Posted (edited)

P-39, don't really care about the other two :)

they are making the Fw190 even it has nothing to do with the Stalingradscenario. Well, nothing should stop them to make the P-39 now :)

Edited by Frankyboy
Posted (edited)

P-40, between these two.

 

Although as others have mentioned my first choice by far would be the P-39.

 

However, I will buy any or all of these three.

Edited by 2Lt_Joch
Posted

P-40 all the way. It has .50 cal machine guns as opposed to the Hurricanes 7.7mm guns even thought there are 8 of them.

Posted

Easy question

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Posted

Why isn't P-39 in the list?  Oh well, either of the two works for me.

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

Hurricane. It's a reliable little bugger.

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Posted

Why isn't P-39 in the list?  Oh well, either of the two works for me.

Tha't pretty simple - the choice should be historically correct and the Axis competitor should be adequate.

BMA_FlyingShark
Posted

P-40 but with only a horseneck before the Hurricane.

 

:salute:

HeavyCavalrySgt
Posted

P-39 would be my first choice, then P-40.  Either way, it should be as the Russians used them, not as they were in American service.

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Posted

both will be in the sim, but based off the poll, we'll see the P-40 . . .

 

flying tigers . . . God is my copilot and 

 

 

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