Can a ww2 fighter land with 1,5 half wings?

[A_S]

Well, you all saw the viral youtube video where a 1.5m sized RC plane landed with only one wing.

I know of a case where a isreali F-15 pulled the same stunt for real, but can the LaGG-3 land like that?

 

I don´t know..but i know i did it ingame. Its just a screenshot unfortunalty, but you can take me by my word.

Just after landing someone vulched me on the runways anyways (figures) on the server.

 

[AndyJWest]

Apparently it ditched, rather than attempting a carrier landing, but it was clearly under control:

[I./ZG1_HeTzeR]

Your plane will fly as long as it has enough lift. If you clipped a wing a bit, you will be able to land(depends on skills). Dont compare BoS with Il2 46. In old Il2 the lift wasnt simulated, if your wing was gone, you were just going down fast

Edited April 5, 2014 by I./JG21-HeTzeR

[AndyJWest]

Controllability is going to be more of an issue than lift.

[OBT-Psycho]

I just made quite the same thing this afternoon with a stuka.

 

I lost the left wing in a fight, and manage to land in a field of snow without any more damage and in a kind of controlled way

I wonder if I would have made it on a runway...

 

It reminds me this amazing story of a F-15 pilot who lost his wing and made it back to the airfield without even noticing it. 

the pilot discover the damaged (he knew he was hit and had damages on the right wing, but that is all he knew) once he climbed out of the cockpit. I would pay a bunch of money to see the look on his face at this moment, and to know what he thought.

 

[Sternjaeger]

I wouldn't bring jets into this discussion, jet engine thrust does a lot of the work there.

 

In answer to the OT, it depends on several factors (how much wing is missing, what speed we're talking about, severed controls etc..), but there's plenty of recorded cases on the matter. 

 

I remember reading years ago about an US Navy test pilot who was managed to get a Corsair briefly airborne with its wings folded, this after it was reported that a Corsair did something similar in a scramble takeoff in the Pacific! 

[Feathered_IV]

This A5M flew home and landed. 

 

[Volkoff]

I wish I saw this thread earlier in the day. Today I had a Bf-109 clip my wing like that. Instead of attempting to land, I just bailed out. I will give landing the old college try, next time. 

MJ

Edited April 6, 2014 by =69.GIAP=MIKHA

[69th_chuter]

Apparently it ditched, rather than attempting a carrier landing, but it was clearly under control:

 

 

Ensign Bob King's TBM of VT-82 (CV Bennington) flying against Chichi Jima on 18 Feb 1945 .  This aircraft was struck by another TBM (pilot Cosbie, radioman Ben Reynolds, gunner Lou Gerig) after the other aircraft was hit by flack and subsequently went down with all crew .  King's crew, radioman Jim Dye and gunner Grady York, bailed out while King fought to regain control and were spotted by a fighter aircraft as they stood in shallow water at the edge of the island.  After righting the aircraft King undid his belts but found he had enough control (though he couldn't get his belts back on) to attempt to get to a safe place to bail out (Grady and Dye, captured that day, were killed by the Japanese five and seven days later, respectively).  He eventually flew all the way back to Bennington only to have the aircraft break in half after dropping the gear.  Another aircraft dropped him a life raft.  The after action report mentions that Dye and York were the youngest members of the squadron.  The book Flyboys says that King was never quite the same after he survived this mission where his crew went MIA.

 

I just have to add that I've never quite understood the aircraft breaking in half part of the report.  There could, of course, be more damage than is immediately visible in the picture, both to the fuselage and wings.  I've kind of figured the plane broke up on ditching.

Edited April 7, 2014 by chuter

[JG4_Sputnik]

The problem here is not that it actually flies but that it happens way too often. I had that kind of damage for three times now already.

 

I wonder if this is because the wing has only 3 breaking points. Either the wing is completely off or half or just the wing tip.

I'm guessing this will change after the release.

[Wandalen]

 No problem in this game 

 

http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/4445-clipped-wing-me109/

 

 

~S~ 

[DickDong]

Throughout combat history many planes have returned with missing surfaces. Shouldnt be a problem if everything else is working fine.

[MilAvHistory]

The problem here is not that it actually flies but that it happens way too often. I had that kind of damage for three times now already.

 

I wonder if this is because the wing has only 3 breaking points. Either the wing is completely off or half or just the wing tip.

I'm guessing this will change after the release.

 

I've seen it quite a few times as well. Actually, that might be an overstatement but I remember three cases. First one was a LaGG, flying with 1.5 wings and the pilot doing a good job at it - didn't save him from a horde of Bf's that went for him but for a time, he did well. Second and third time it was with Bf 109s. One went into a unrecoverable spin (little surprise there) after trying to evade my second attack - maybe he hadn't noticed because part of his wing only waved goodbye after I had already zoomed up - and the other one had only the tip missing. He went crashing down.

[FuriousMeow]

The problem here is not that it actually flies but that it happens way too often. I had that kind of damage for three times now already.

 

I wonder if this is because the wing has only 3 breaking points. Either the wing is completely off or half or just the wing tip.

I'm guessing this will change after the release.

 

Why would it change? There have to be breaking points, computers still can't replicate anything close to real world physics in "real time." At least with BoS the parts broken off retain their own physical properties and the parts remaining retain their own physical properties. In the previous Il-2 series the parts that were removed meant little, wingtip or entire wing gone - no matter, the physics weren't modelled to that detail so regardless the plane would still crash because it only accounted for wing or anything less was no wing.

[Crump]

It happens.......

 

 

With enough dynamic pressure or thrust, anything will fly.

[Sternjaeger]

great piccie Crump!