My CEM settings for those having difficulties

[pilotpierre]

It appears a lot of pilots are having problems with engine management. I have been using the following with good results. The data was gleaned from several sources, but I dont remember where from.

 

Stuka

1 minute max 2600 rpm @ 1.42 ata
30 mins max 2400 rpm @ 1.25 ata
No restriction 2250 rpm @ 1.15 ata
Cruise 2100 rpm @ 1.10 ata
Above 6000m reduce by 0.1 ata
Combat 2250 rpm @ 1.2 ata
Climb out 240 kph @ 2450 rpm
Rotate @ 170 kph
Landing
Downwind 2000rpm @ 0.6 ata
Water radiator closed
Touch down 150 kph

 

LaGG

Climbout

270 kph @ 2600 - 2700 rpm

Rotate 190 kph

Level flight fuel saving 1700 rpm

Combat 2650 - 2700 rpmEngine temp 90 - 100C if it exceeds 110, revs back to 2300

Supercharger >2000m

lean enfine > 3000m (i do it gradually on the way up by checking exhaust colour

LANDING

Set 2600rpm in case of go around

Reduce throttle

Both Radiators closed

Gear down <350 kph

Flaps <250 kph

Finals 200 - 220 kph

Touch down 180 - 190 kph

 

BF 109

Climbout 280 kpa 2500 revs @ 1.3 ata

Max 1 minute 2700 reve @ 1.42 ata

Max 5 mins @ 2500 kpa

Rotate 180 kph

Set horizontal stabalizer whe in level flight

DOWNWIND

1500rpm @ 0.6 ata

Gear down <350 kph

Flaps < 250 kph

Finals 200-220 kph

Touchdown 160-170 kph

 

IL2

Climbout250kph @ 2150 revs

Gear up 2050 revs@ 10.5

Cruise 1850 revs @ 8.5

Combat 2050 rpm

CLOSE TO TARGET

Adjust speed to 300 - 320 kph

Close oil radiator

LANDING

1800 rpm @ 6.0

Gear down <250 kph

Close water radiator

Flaps <220 kph

Glide speed 190 kph

Touchdown 150 - 160 Kph

 

YAK

Climbout 25050 - 2700 rpm

Transit 270 kph @ 1700 rpm for fuel saving

Supercharger >3000m

Combat 2650 - 2700 rpm (with both radiators closed but I quite often miss this one with no ill effects)

90 - 100 C for water and oil temps - Max 110

LANDING

Wheels down <260kph

Flaps <220 kph

Close both radiators

Glide 185 kph

Touchdown 170 KPH

 

 

 

[LastRightsXIII]

Thank you.

[FlyingNutcase]

Good stuff; thanks!

[JG4_Sputnik]

Much appreciated!

Btw are those historical or just for the game? Or do they match anyway?

[pilotpierre]

Historical and a match I believe. They work in game, that's the main thing.

[jeanba]

Thank you, a good help for beginners like me

[senseispcc]

I tried to correct and complete this great work;

 

Ju87 g Stuka

TAKE OFF

2600 rpm @ 1.42 ata
climb out 240 kph @ 2450 rpm
Rotate @ 170 kph
30 mins max 2400 rpm @ 1.25 ata
No restriction 2250 rpm @ 1.15 ata
Cruise 2100 rpm @ 1.10 ata
Above 6000m reduce by 0.1 ata
Combat 2250 rpm @ 1.2 ata
Landing
Downwind 2000rpm @ 0.6 ata
Water radiator closed
Touch down 150 kph

 

 

BF 109 F4

TAKE OFF

@ 2500 revs @ 1.3 ata

Max 1 minute 2700 reve @ 1.42 ata

Max 5 mins @ 2500 kpa

Rotate 180 kph

CLIMBING

250 to 350 kph @ 2600 rpm @ 1.3 ata

Supercharger >3000m

Set horizontal stabilizer when in level flight

LANDING

1500rpm @ 0.6 ata

Gear down <350 kph

Flaps < 250 kph

Finals 200-220 kph

Touchdown 160-170 kph

 

LaGG-3 mod29

TAKE OFF

@ 2600 - 2700 rpm

Rotate 190 kph

CLIMBING

250 to 300 kph @ 2600 rpm

Supercharger >3000m

Level flight fuel saving 1700 rpm

Combat 2650 - 2700 rpm Engine temp 90 - 100C if it exceeds 110, revs back to 2300

Fuel to lean prop to fine > 3000m (I do it gradually on the way up by checking exhaust color)

LANDING

Set 2600rpm in case of go around

Reduce throttle

Both Radiators closed

Gear down <300 kph

Flaps <250 kph

Finals 200 - 220 kph

Touch down 180 - 190 kph

 

 

IL2 & IL2 mod Strumovik

TAKE OFF

@ 2150 revs

Gear up 2050 revs@ 10.5

Cruise 1850 revs @ 8.5

Combat 2050 rpm

CLOSE TO TARGET

Adjust speed to 300 - 320 kph

Close oil radiator

LANDING

1800 rpm @ 6.0

Gear down <250 kph

Close water radiator

Flaps <200 kph

Glide speed 190 kph

Touchdown 150 - 160 Kph

 

YAK-1

TAKE OFF

@ 25050 - 2700 rpm

CLIMBING

250 to 300 kph @ 2600 rpm

Supercharger >3000m

Transit 270 kph @ 1700 rpm for fuel saving

Combat 2650 - 2700 rpm (with both radiators 3/4 closed with no ill effects)

90 - 100 C for water and oil temps - Max 110

LANDING

Wheels down <300 kph

Flaps <250 kph

Close both radiators

Glide 185 kph

Touchdown 160 - 170 KPH

 

I hope I did not add more mistakes!

[VBF-12_Stick-95]

thanks!

[Georgio]

Great stuff!

 

The only thing I would add is to simplify things regarding throttle and prop pitch with the LaGG; Preflight for MP only take 50% fuel, you won't need any more and it makes handling easier.

 

Take off: Flaps down for 4 secs. Prop pitch fully forward, feed in the throttle until the speed builds, lift the tail at 90 then run straight until about 180 when you can lift off. Gear up, build speed then raise flaps fully.

 

Flight: Radiator half closed. Don't touch the throttle; leave it at 100% and use the prop pitch to increase/decrease speed. Just keep an eye on the temps and open/close the radiator as needed.

 

Maybe not historical but it works for me... 

[oneeyeddog]

Thanks very much! 

[Mewt]

Very handy.

 

But got me thinking....

 

...you know what this game needs now? A Wiki.

[Steambat]

Liking this a lot thanks guys.

[senseispcc]

It is true that with flaps at 10 to 15 % the LaGG-3 take of in a eassier way but it can take of without it!

I think without being sure that the LaGG-3 also in the game has no problems with over heating this should be correted in the near future.

But about the prop pitch it should be full forward for take  of and landing. Yak is the same for the BF109-F4 this is automatic like in the real aircraft (it could be manual but I have read it was seldom done).

[216th_Jordan]

Can anyone tell me why there is always steam coming out of my water radiator in the lagg? Temperatures were ok i think and i kept throttle at 85% most of the time (Talking about automatic engine management in multiplayer...in singleplayer i just open everything up..). Would be good to know!

[Georgio]

Can anyone tell me why there is always steam coming out of my water radiator in the lagg? Temperatures were ok i think and i kept throttle at 85% most of the time (Talking about automatic engine management in multiplayer...in singleplayer i just open everything up..). Would be good to know!

Make sure you have both water and oil radiators set on one axis/buttons. Keep fully open (forward) on take off or climbing. Then keep in the mid position for everything else.

I have oil/water rads mapped to my small warthog axis (the grey lever) and it works perfectly.

[=69.GIAP=ALEXEJ]

Thanks a lot for these figures!
Tried around recently by my own, but it's much faster with those!

[SeriousFox]

Thank you very much! Now I can fly Ju-87 more than 5 minutes. 

[VBF-12_Stick-95]

PE2?

[pilotpierre]

Still trying to find data Stick.

At present I am taking off 2700 rpm @ 110 and rotating at around 160 kph with about 8 degrees flap.

Once wheels up and flaps in, 2600 rpm @ 100 for combat

2400 rpm @ 90 for economical cruise.

Landing

Gear down <300 kph, flaps < 250 kph

Downwind 200 kph, 2600 rpm @ 40

Finals, radiators shut, 200 kph @ 30 to 40

Touchdown 160 - 170 kph.

 

Don't know if these are correct but they work for me.

[71st_AH_Mastiff]

Still trying to find data Stick.

At present I am taking off 2700 rpm @ 110 and rotating at around 160 kph with about 8 degrees flap.

Once wheels up and flaps in, 2600 rpm @ 100 for combat

2400 rpm @ 90 for economical cruise.

Landing

Gear down <300 kph, flaps < 250 kph

Downwind 200 kph, 2600 rpm @ 40

Finals, radiators shut, 200 kph @ 30 to 40

Touchdown 160 - 170 kph.

 

Don't know if these are correct but they work for me.

yes same way I been doing it.

[KodiakJac]

Is this information not provided in the game documentation?

 

WWII pilots didn't have to guess at these things.  At least most of it was predetermined by the aircraft manufacturers and test pilots and then passed down to the pilots during training.

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

My generic setting for the 109 horizontal stab is between the 2-3 for level flight at 2450 rpms. Adjust as necessary to match your speed.

 

Add that the tail wheel must be locked for take offs and landings.

 

@Bucksnort

There is no official documentation for the alpha yet. This is Pierre's unofficial documentation. And thanks to him for it.

 

~S

Edited April 20, 2014 by A1FltTrn=HerrMurf

[KodiakJac]

Thank you to Pierre and everyone who contributed to this thread. This information is critical and I would not have been able to begin playing without it.

[Feathered_IV]

Great reference.  I'm killing the Stuka though, every time after about a minute or so after takeoff.  I can throttle back and open up radiators and such, but get black smoke and a long walk home each time. 

[6high]

Great reference.  I'm killing the Stuka though, every time after about a minute or so after takeoff.  I can throttle back and open up radiators and such, but get black smoke and a long walk home each time. 

Feathered, check if you really open the water radiator...and the critical thing is to keep your rpm`s around 2200-2300..

 

At least that is how i do it..

 

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[Feathered_IV]

Thanks for the tip, I'll double check tonight. I'm wondering if I better take a look at the way I've been handling prop pitch too - or rather misshandling it. I realised I've had it right forward like I'm in the LaGG. A bit of a no-no it seems.

[pilotpierre]

As per earlier posts

Ju87 g Stuka

TAKE OFF

2600 rpm @ 1.42 ata

climb out 240 kph @ 2450 rpm

Rotate @ 170 kph

30 mins max 2400 rpm @ 1.25 ata

No restriction 2250 rpm @ 1.15 ata

Cruise 2100 rpm @ 1.10 ata

Above 6000m reduce by 0.1 ata

Combat 2250 rpm @ 1.2 ata

Landing

Downwind 2000rpm @ 0.6 ata

Water radiator closed

Touch down 150 kph

[Feathered_IV]

Thanks Pierre, that's a beaut. I found a small hand mirror this morning and was able to identify the problem.

[pilotpierre]

Thanks Pierre, that's a beaut. I found a small hand mirror this morning and was able to identify the problem.

Que??????????? Too subtle for me Feathered

[Phant0m]

Pierre, he is saying that it is sometimes good to reflect on your issues to truly see the real problem.

[pilotpierre]

Thank you Ghost Who Walks.

[Feathered_IV]

Que??????????? Too subtle for me Feathered

 

Yep, the problem was me. 

[6high]

Yep, the problem was me.

Not exactly YOU, but your abuse of proppitch.

Just to bring some smart-as# psychology in here...

Speaking of it- what does the term " rotate" mean, as used in pierres listings?

Edited April 23, 2014 by 6high

[oneeyeddog]

 The term rotation is used because the aircraft pivots around the axis of its main landing gear while still on the ground. (often referred to as V_r). 

 

​Guess I never knew exactly what it meant either. I assumed it was synonymous with 'liftoff'.

[6high]

Ok, thnx m8, that makes some sense.

[Feathered_IV]

Success! Using the above settings I was able to take off, fly to the target, miss, and return home again without breaking anything.

[6high]

That is real success; i usually take off, fly to target, get lost in the process, return to any base and break the crate on touchdown...still fun though!

[312_strycekFido]

IL-2 (real plane manual, seem to work well in game)

 

take off

max rpm @ full power

 

standart cruise

2050 rpm @ 950

 

economy cruise

1850 rpm @ 950

 

use only low pitch / max rpm with pressure > 950

 

landing

low pitch / max rpm

 

full manual in english is here http://www.scribd.com/doc/60241958/1942-Flight-Manual-Il-2-Airplane-with-AM-38-Engine

[Eldur]

Great reference.  I'm killing the Stuka though, every time after about a minute or so after takeoff.  I can throttle back and open up radiators and such, but get black smoke and a long walk home each time. 

 

Anything more than 30 seconds of 1,42ata @ full rpm will kill it's engine at the moment. So don't even dare to take off with that power settings

It's possible to do so with full rpm lever, 1,2ata and then reving down to ~2300rpm after takeoff.

IL-2 (real plane manual, seem to work well in game)

 

take off

max rpm @ full power

 

standart cruise

2050 rpm @ 950

 

economy cruise

1850 rpm @ 950

 

use only low pitch / max rpm with pressure > 950

 

landing

low pitch / max rpm

 

full manual in english is here http://www.scribd.com/doc/60241958/1942-Flight-Manual-Il-2-Airplane-with-AM-38-Engine

 

Thanks a lot for that link... Got exactly that manual in Russian and don't even understand half of it

[Requiem]

Thanks Pilotpierre! I've included your CEM Settings in the performance notes of my aircraft familiarisation videos