Yak1 Gameplay on TAW

[Sketch]

 

Yesterday's gameplay on TAW with teammates. I bring two clips this time with some commentary. Enjoy!

[Blakhart]

And thats why 109 G-2 vs Yak-1 is not acceptable as a basic set.

 

You dont need to be even good/average at BFM, you just need to use the flaps.

[StG77_Kondor]

Nice video.

 

Also nice shooting of the clearly downed plane. Duly noted . 

[1./JG42flesch]

This is one from this Gentleman who also shots players on parachut. What an Idio.....!

[Monostripezebra]

And thats why 109 G-2 vs Yak-1 is not acceptable as a basic set.

 

You dont need to be even good/average at BFM, you just need to use the flaps.

 

I lol´d. The G2 beats the yak hands down.. you´re just not supposed to turnfight with it. Even when the dive-down ceiling is limited to the deck.. you just have have a clue of how that plane needs to be flown.

 

Edited August 3, 2016 by Dr_Zeebra

[Sketch]

This is one from this Gentleman who also shots players on parachut. What an Idio.....!

 

 

I'm confused by this comment. Are you saying I shoot down parachutes? Or are you saying Kondor shoots down parachutes? Are you suggesting I have no "video game honor" because your pilot got shot in a parachute? I can say that I don't shoot down parachutes until I'm blue in the face, but it doesn't change other player's behaviors. Do you not realize that IL-2 BoS/BoM is a video game and social aspects such as honor and "knight-like behaviors" don't apply as they did in real life?

 

On another topic, why attack mine or Kondor's character (by calling me an idiot) when I'm promoting the community with videos? What is your angle? Are you attempting to get a rise out of me? Did you want to have an argument on this thread about parachute killing? You can find the thread for arguing if a player should shoot down parachutes here -> LINK

[E69_geramos109]

G2 is good enought to beat the yak if you fly on your conditions but the guys on the video seems not so experienced pilot.

Good kills sketch I want to find you on the taw in a one vs one duel.

[9./JG27golani79]

Shooting at the Stuka that was clearly going down / ditched already was pretty lame imo.

 

And yes - even though this only is a game there should be some sportsmanship / respect for others players.

[Sketch]

Good kills sketch I want to find you on the taw in a one vs one duel.

 

 

I hope I never meet you in a one on one... I always try to stay with friendlies or at least have the altitude advantage. Though, when we do meet, you'll most likely defeat me anyway.

 

 

And yes - even though this only is a game there should be some sportsmanship / respect for others players.

 

This could be debated (but not here please). Without any type of exploiting or hacking of course... Are we chums just playing an game or are we playing to win? If we're chums, then we should always meet at 1k and engage after our first merge. This is extreme, obviously; but at what point does the game play between two or more players not become sportsmanlike or respectful? Is it at the point of shooting down a parachute, insuring that a player has a 5 minute delay? Is it vulching an airfield? Maybe it's running away from an engagement that you don't have a serious advantage to... For you, it seems the point of nonsportsman-like conduct is at shooting down a Stuka that was on the ground, on my side of the fence, and that no players got credit for. (He mostly got shot down by AAA before I had a chance to engage.) For me, it's not shooting down parachutes. For others, it maybe something different. This is just part of the social aspect of multiplayer games. Knowing that, you can easily assume that not all players are going to be as "honorable" as you see fit, sorry.

Edited August 3, 2016 by Sketch

[9./JG27golani79]

Sure we play to win but to be honest whats the point in shooting a plane which already is clearly out of the fight - even more so if there still are other planes engaging in the fight?

 

Personally I'd never do that even if the enemy plane was shot by AI.

 

But seems like we have a different understanding of sportsmanship / respect because kicking an oponent in the nuts when he is down already has nothing to do with it - at least not for me.

Edited August 3, 2016 by 9./JG27golani79

[VBF-12_Snake9]

Watched. All I saw was two dumb azz 109 pilots.

 

No disrespect sketch. You did very well.

 

Two 109s verse anything Russian, you have to mess up very bad to lose that.

 

Seeing this I would have put my money on Sketch in a I16 or dare I say P40. Lol

[Sketch]

Watched. All I saw was two dumb azz 109 pilots.

 

No disrespect sketch. You did very well.

 

Two 109s verse anything Russian, you have to mess up very bad to lose that.

 

Seeing this I would have put my money on Sketch in a I16 or dare I say P40. Lol

 

You're absolutely correct. Even during the gameplay, I felt I need to get out of there. Then, as I mentioned in the commentary, I got extremely lucky... twice. I had to go get a lotto ticket to see if my luck was still with me.

[Gump]

mang, why cant I ever find targets like that?  when I join a server, its always full of seasoned aces. I always feel like im hunting the elusive snow leopard when trying to acquire targets. then again, I seem to be flying alone and no comms.

[IRRE_Rolluptito]

And thats why 109 G-2 vs Yak-1 is not acceptable as a basic set.

 

You dont need to be even good/average at BFM, you just need to use the flaps.

 

With all due respect Blakhart, if you can't beat a Yak with a 109-G2, there's probably something wrong in the way you fly it.

 

109-G2:

Max turn rate: 22.2s at 270km/h

Max climb rate: 22.3 m/s

Ceiling: 12.1 km

Max load factor: 10.5 G

Max divespeed: 850 km/H

Max speed at see level: 525

Max speed at 2000: 569

 

Yak-1

Max turn rate: 21.2s at 270km/h

Best climb rate:17 m/s

Ceiling: 10.2 km

Max load factor: 10.3 G

Max divespeed: 720 km/h

Max speed at see level: 516

Max speed at 2000: 550

 

Everything is better in the G-2 (not to mention F-4...) except the turn rate which is just minus 1s... 

 

If you play energy and don't dogfight, you can't loose. 

 

And I play both germans & VVS here, so I'm not especially from that or that side. 

 

 

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And just so to compare G2 vs Lagg3 (as it was during the campaign...) :

Lagg-3

Max turn rate: 22.2s at 280km/h (same time as the G-2 but with 10km/h faster...)

Max climb rate: 14.9 m/s

Ceiling: 10.5 km

Max load factor: 11 G

Max divespeed: 750

Max speed at see level: 505

Max speed at 2000: 548

I can't even imagine how it would be without the 23mm...

-

 

rolluptito

Edited August 4, 2016 by Rollup_Tito

[PeterZvan]

You guys dont get what Blakhart is saying.

He is considering the average pilot.

Average pilot is far better off in a Yak than in the G2.

G2 needs to be flown with good BFM knowledge to beat the Yak which is piloted by a pilot than flies more intuitivly (pull, pull, pull) and with lesser BFM knowledge.

 

As for his knowledge and skills - Blakhart is one of the best fighter pilots / duelists in BoS.

People that know him can testify to that - he knows exactly what he is talking about.

Edited August 4, 2016 by PeterZvan

[Monostripezebra]

You guys dont get what Blakhart is saying.

He is considering the average pilot.

Average pilot is far better off in a Yak than in the G2.

G2 needs to be flown with good BFM knowledge to beat the Yak which is piloted by a pilot than flies more intuitivly (pull, pull, pull) and with lesser BFM knowledge.

 

He was talking about the TAW plane set, which gives the german side the G2 to start and the F4 to earn (as "better" plane) and he was giving an argument why the Yak should not be in the russian "starter" set. If he thinks that the russians win because everybody turnfights on the deck then that isn´t a charming assesment of the average german player... because he is calling the majority "absolutly uneducated" if you translate that.. and with that argument you should definatly do something about those OP russian I-16 that just need to turn!11! Surely they can´t be in basic planeset!111! ;=)

Edited August 4, 2016 by Dr_Zeebra

[VBF-12_Snake9]

You can't draw no 109 yak conclusions from this video.

 

About the only thing you can say...

 

Sketch did a good job.

 

109 pilots (thank god we don't know who they are) were horrible.

 

Ps. I'll fly a lagg against a g2 any day. Unless you remove the 23 then I'll fly the yak.

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

You guys dont get what Blakhart is saying.

He is considering the average pilot.

Average pilot is far better off in a Yak than in the G2.

G2 needs to be flown with good BFM knowledge to beat the Yak which is piloted by a pilot than flies more intuitivly (pull, pull, pull) and with lesser BFM knowledge.

 

As for his knowledge and skills - Blakhart is one of the best fighter pilots / duelists in BoS.

People that know him can testify to that - he knows exactly what he is talking about.

 

Best novice plane is 109 - this is from Blackhart. No doubt that you guys are top dogs.

[ECV56_Necathor]

I think a good pilot knows the goods and the bads of his plane, energy is survive and the who made less mistakes normally wins.

Remember all planes has advantages and low points.

G2 have more power to climb and speed to go away on a same level fight againts one Yak, as I said the enviroment, energy and all other factors can change the end of a fight.

For my self also, we need to accept that another pilot can shoot down, learn a be better.

[Blakhart]

Best novice plane is 109 - this is from Blackhart. ...

 

 

Yes it was. I remember when we were talking about it few months ago. 

It was before last 3 updates of FM and so on.

 

Using my words now to the present situation and FM is pointless.

 

 

 

 

He was talking about the TAW plane set, which gives the german side the G2 to start and the F4 to earn (as "better" plane) and he was giving an argument why the Yak should not be in the russian "starter" set. If he thinks that the russians win because everybody turnfights on the deck then that isn´t a charming assesment of the average german player... because he is calling the majority "absolutly uneducated" if you translate that.. and with that argument you should definatly do something about those OP russian I-16 that just need to turn!11! Surely they can´t be in basic planeset!111! ;=)

 

 

Zeebra, you write a lot so I can conclude you also talk a lot and now you are talking a lot bullshit about me.

 

You have your opinion. Cool. Its simply showing your knowledge about the virtual combat enviroment and rules. Also you might just dont know how to use LaGG vs G-2 or Yak vs G-2...

 

But you still think you are the one and only smart ass in the village.

So yeah, I`m proposing you a simpliest solution, lets meet on Berloga server and have 10-20 test fights Yak-1 vs 109 G-2, then LaGG-3 vs 109 G-2.

I`ll take this underpowered Lagg and crappy Yak and you will have a very good occasion to prove your words and persuade me I`m wrong with my planeset and judgements.

 

 

 

With all due respect Blakhart, if you can't beat a Yak with a 109-G2, there's probably something wrong in the way you fly it.

 

With all respect, raw numbers are just not enough, the same proposition to you Rollup_Tito.

Lets have few test duels. 

 

 

You take 109 G-2 i take Yak-1.  

 

To be clear, I dont want to prove my skills. I will just explain you in a best, practical way that your pure technical arguments or sensless jokes are just invalid.

Plus we can make a video from that video so other people will have a good manual how to fight 109G vs Lagg/Yak.

And honestly I didnt even trained duels last few months so I`m in a really bad shape...

 

 

I`m ready today, tommorow evening, saturday evening, we can meet on TIDES TAW TS3 for example.

Edited August 4, 2016 by =LG=Blakhart

[Fern]

Sketch, did you record our 3 (you yak, kmac i16, and skyvi lagg) vs 1 (me in G2) draw?

Edited August 4, 2016 by Fern

[Monostripezebra]

Yes it was. I remember when we were talking about it few months ago. 

It was before last 3 updates of FM and so on.

 

Using my words now to the present situation and FM is pointless.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Zeebra, you write a lot so I can conclude you also talk a lot and now you are talking a lot bullshit about me.

 

You have your opinion. Cool. Its simply showing your knowledge about the virtual combat enviroment and rules. Also you might just dont know how to use LaGG vs G-2 or Yak vs G-2...

 

But you still think you are the one and only smart ass in the village.

So yeah, I`m proposing you a simpliest solution, lets meet on Berloga server and have 10-20 test fights Yak-1 vs 109 G-2, then LaGG-3 vs 109 G-2.

I`ll take this underpowered Lagg and crappy Yak and you will have a very good occasion to prove your words and persuade me I`m wrong with my planeset and judgements.

 

I really don´t know what to reply. Where did I write Bullshit about you? Did you or did you not imply G2 vs Yak is a bad planeset because of the Yaks dominance?

If you actually follow the forum you might have noticed that I have been critical of the yak a lot, seeing it as modeled on the positive side especially in high speed situations where the plane stays too highly maneuverable and has, for a fabric covered fuselage, too high energy retention.. just in my personal oppinon of someone that likes to dive old fabric covered gliders. And that this a bit sad for the game because it means that dogfights don´t really develop because it only makes sense to pounce yaks in 109. Which I could also find a ton of historical references for, yadayadayada.

Does that change the fact that the F and G 109s are, like their historical counterparts, the better planes? No. Because of the ability to initiate a fight at will and to withdraw at will.. is one of the prime fighter qualities, a theory, which is not like exclusively my oppinon but actually discussed in real military literature... Is that valid for the game? I think so. Do the numbers support that claim? I think so.

 

 

 

 

"Yes it was. I remember when we were talking about it few months ago. 

It was before last 3 updates of FM and so on."

 

 

Lets stay factual: where are those "3 FM-UPDATES" that buffed the yak and what was changed there? I don´t remember them at all nor do I see them on the update list. I only see and remember the flaps got more draggy in 1.007Bb... Could you give us any factual leads or is that just angry BS and denial of things said in the past?

 

 

 

Your "Your argument is invalid, because I´m duel king!!1!" behaviour is hardly a convincing argument, to me, I must say. Let´s assume you´ve won 10 out of 10 duels.. would that in anyhow logically affect the reasons given above or the facts?

 

Also : I prefer duels with the Pe2 and I don´t talk a lot.

Edited August 4, 2016 by Dr_Zeebra

[E69_geramos109]

I want to see video about the duels blackhart.

I think in a dogfight one vs one at low altitude and with a good skilled pilot in both yak has the advantage and im with zebra in that yak has so good manouber at hight speed and he tolerates a lot of G with is wooden estructure but in the rest G2 is a better plane.

 

The problem is that the best plane is not the same as the easyest plane, so low skilled pilots can do better with turn fighters, and you need to be a good pilot to do something with the G2. A lot of players take german side because they thought that they have the best planes, and they can kill more, but they die like in the video of sketch.

No doubt german fighters are better but are planes for well trained pilots.

You only have to see why we lose the TAW, best stats are on the axis side but not all are aces and new german pilots lose a lot of fighters and planes trying to dogfight with russians.

Edited August 4, 2016 by E69_geramos109

[Blakhart]

I lol´d. The G2 beats the yak hands down.. you´re just not supposed to turnfight with it. Even when the dive-down ceiling is limited to the deck.. you just have have a clue of how that plane needs to be flown.

 

 

And what you do now with my fair proposition ? :D

 

You see, I`m chilled, calm and have really positiove attitude.

I`m just smiling when un-skilled players without enough knowledge are talking a lot spreading their fake opinions.

 

If you cant defend own words it means they are worthless... Which is actully sad ;(

 

 

 

No doubt german fighters are better but are planes for well trained pilots. You only have to see why we lose the TAW, best stats are on the axis side but not all are aces and new german pilots lose a lot of fighters and planes trying to dogfight with russians.

 

I was thinking the same until I started to play on them in test campaign.

( when I was flying on WoL from time to time as a russian some frustrated russian friendly killed me just after the take off, because I had better top points than his miserable fellow, so I just couldnt fly on a red side  )  

 

1. Blue players have better stats because they were mostly flying with numerous advantage. Its easier to get a good score and survive.

2. Some of the blue players are not flying for the "war" but only for the "stats", flying on 5-7k and hunting is easier in G-2 or FW.

3. Close combat vs red planes is really hard because of the "red flaps" exploit and red stall characteristics, plus blue planes have worst reactions on stall speed and lower. You barely can control the plane while red player is able to recover faster and have a shooting situation in ridiciulous situation.

 

This game have great FM and overall gameplay but still have plenty of bugs and some of them will be never fixed.

Edited August 5, 2016 by =LG=Blakhart

[IRRE_Rolluptito]

With all respect, raw numbers are just not enough, the same proposition to you Rollup_Tito.

Lets have few test duels. 

 

 

You take 109 G-2 i take Yak-1.  

 

To be clear, I dont want to prove my skills. I will just explain you in a best, practical way that your pure technical arguments or sensless jokes are just invalid.

Plus we can make a video from that video so other people will have a good manual how to fight 109G vs Lagg/Yak.

And honestly I didnt even trained duels last few months so I`m in a really bad shape...

 

 

I`m ready today, tommorow evening, saturday evening, we can meet on TIDES TAW TS3 for example.

 

Where did you see a "sensless joke"?

 

I don't really care about some 12 years old duel thing, you know... You're probably a way better pilot than me, and I don't deny that at all but what does a duel proves here?

Does it prove more than "pure technical arguments"? I don't think so...

 

Maybe you can begin by grow up a bit, stop acting like a little thug with people and enter in a discussion without being into this passive-aggressive state and discuss about real things with people. I'm not really into that "My d*** is bigger than yours" thing. 

 

But thanks, maybe later I would be happy to have fun with you. Doesn't seems really pleasant right now...

 

Rolluptito

Edited August 5, 2016 by Rollup_Tito

[Blakhart]

"Jokes ---> was about the Zeebra post not yours.

 

So its good when you guys spread the bullshits about the planes complaining about my knowledge about them, denying my opinion but its bad when I`m trying to prove my words in a practical way ???

Double morality indeed.

Grow up, stop talking bullshits and learn about this game and those planes.

 

If you are not the best fighter it means you dont know how Yak-1 can react in stall fight, stall turns, controlled spin, on high AoA and on flaps.

Yeah, you both guys dont know too much about it but you keep talking and other people come here and read those bullshits.

 

Numbers are only numbers.

Technical data is just not enough.

Thats all.

[MK_RED13]

Repeat.. Yak presents in this GAME new VVS technology - Very Intelligent Pneumatic Mechanism of Flaps (call it VIPMoF) which opens flaps to IDEAL position at RIGHT time for BEST stability, BEST climb, BEST turn, BEST brake... and.. under 210km/h for BEST landing.... 

[1PL-Banzai-1Esk]

Duel proves nothing if the pilots have different skills.

 

All that 'I know better because I am better pilot and will defeat you in duel' attitude is BS and is borderline bullying.

 

Go and duel PeterZvan , at least we know he has duel skills. Then we could see which is 'better' LaGG or G-2.

 

What next? LW pilots will say that they are the underdog and fly worse planes and are always outnumbered.

 

Yaks have magic flaps, press a button and win the fight? LaGG is better than 109 and shoots lasers that always kill pilots with one shot.

 

Lol. All the stats are there , from your own server. LW destroys VVS in number of kills all the time.

 

If it so easy to fly VVS why is there only couple of red pilots with decent stats and tons of LW with many more kills and double digits killstreaks?

[PeterZvan]

We did exactly that with Blakhart before the last campaign started - we tested all sort of plane combinations to each other and saw how it works out (we are close skill wise - so the results are relevant)

Blakharts comments are based on the comperative tests that we did exactly because of the planeset balancing.

 

Next campaing LG will fly red as they said and I will also fly red - as we did the campaign that was befor this one.

Lagg is good - noone can deny that. We had massive scores with it against loads of F4 and G2. 

Personally I find it a better tactical fighter than the Yak if it can use the 23mm. It has much more firepower and comperative flight performance.

 

As for stats of this campaign - mostly what the stats are saying that LW made many more flights, crashed more planes because of more flights, percentually made less ground attack runs than VVS (ground targets destroyed were about the same)...  Logicly LW has more kills than.

Did those kills contribute to the war effort -> not really as LW lost in the end.

Does this mean that VVS should get Yak as basic fighter and LW the Macchi as basic fighter -> not at all.

 

VVS fighters had a rough time this campaign -> almost constantly outnumbered and LW fighter pilots concentrating mostly on airkills.

The solution to this is not planeset but game dynamic that concentrates on ground support more and also more balanced playercount.

Gamedynamic is something that LG guys are working on, balanced playercount is community specific, but again some squads will move to VVS this time and make it more equal playercount wise.

 

Generaly looking - key of LW dominance on servers that are only airkill orientated is the climbrate performance of the 109. They are always on top and dictate the fight.

However that generaly dosent help the war effort -> they need to be at 6 or 7km to be in a dominant position and on the deck the stukas and ground targets are getting destroyed -> the fighters need to be lower to support the ground action. 

There it becomes a much different game -> and TAW should be such that the action on the ground is contibuting to the war effort the most.

[HR_Tumu]

very good analysis  Peter.

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

It's now how top dogs fights each other regardless of planes,those guys are less than 10% . It's about how average pilot will choose to fight and be in 109 or Lagg?

@Peter be on dominant position it's to be above with good margin of alt not to be at 6-7km above and that what blue in 109 do. They destroy escort then attack planes - all those are airkills count to wining map. I'm ok with it

[IRRE_Rolluptito]

"Jokes ---> was about the Zeebra post not yours.

 

So its good when you guys spread the bullshits about the planes complaining about my knowledge about them, denying my opinion but its bad when I`m trying to prove my words in a practical way ???

 

Double morality indeed.

Grow up, stop talking bullshits and learn about this game and those planes.

 

If you are not the best fighter it means you dont know how Yak-1 can react in stall fight, stall turns, controlled spin, on high AoA and on flaps.

Yeah, you both guys dont know too much about it but you keep talking and other people come here and read those bullshits.

 

Numbers are only numbers.

Technical data is just not enough.

Thats all.

 

You're acting like a 12 years old again...

 

I never said I don't respect your opinion, but I begin to understand why people are generally not happy with the way you answer.

 

Well... Whatever.  

 

So, you're an awesome pilot and you know your machine? 

 

Dude, on the last campaign you died 13 times and broke 30 planes. You even have MINUS one 109-F2...  You loose the lasts two maps because of plane destructions and you did loose the war. (Not to mention that you were fighting against less good planes and at a ratio of 3:1 most of the time...)

 

I wouldn't strut and be such conceited if I was you...

 

On my side, I know I'm not an awesome pilot, but at least I learn and try to play smartly. Doing a streak of 5 kills on a busy enemy airfield in a suicide attack doesn't make you an ace and win the map nor the campaign.  

 

Rollup_Tito

Edited August 5, 2016 by Rollup_Tito

[Blakhart]

Hahahhhahahhah...

omg...

Hahhahahahhahahah...

 

I'm a noob, you got me...uahahhahahahhahahhah...omg...

Ok.Enough of jokes.

Now i know what level of IQ you have. I really apologize I even started to talk with you. You are no worth of attention.

[Monostripezebra]

Best novice plane is 109 - this is from Blackhart. ...

 

 

Yes it was. I remember when we were talking about it few months ago. 

It was before last 3 updates of FM and so on.

 

Using my words now to the present situation and FM is pointless.

 

 

 

Lets stay factual: where are those "3 FM-UPDATES" that buffed the yak and what was changed there? I don´t remember them at all nor do I see them on the update list. I only see and remember the flaps got more draggy in 1.007Bb... Could you give us any factual leads or is that just angry BS and denial of things said in the past?

 

 

 

I`m just smiling when un-skilled players without enough knowledge are talking a lot spreading their fake opinions.

 

If you cant defend own words it means they are worthless... Which is actully sad ;(

 

 

 

Really, man, that is your reply?  All I asked was for some factual backup of your FM claims that the yak got buffed. You know, a defense of the argument you made with facts.

 

And I don´t even fly that thing. Last time we met on Berloga you just where on the outnumbering blue side and after you shot me down, I shot you down in the Lagg a couple of times.. which I only took because I try to balance sides. I really have yet to see you do that. I´m a bid sad I cleaned the harddisk and did not save or upload that footage.. which did include chute shooting by you or some of your guys. The only footage I have of us ever meeting is you doing the ultrarealism "hartmann despawn" in TAW.  ;=)

You know, I play for fun not for war or arguments, it is a game to me. I don´t claim to be greatest pilot nor do I need that, I can even have fun getting shot down or flying outclassed planes like the P-40... But I do value mutual respect over any silly game sides and overall postive attitude. And if it is for mutual fun, I´m enjoying duels, too, but if it is for anything other then fun, well basically you can fuck off then.

Edited August 5, 2016 by Dr_Zeebra

[Monostripezebra]

Well, I would agree with the analyitcal part in that.. I think in the last TAW campaign the VVS did not really "win", I mean we where pushed back all over the map and blue just ran out of planes..

 

In my oppinion, that is a bit down to the mathematical realities of statistics: If side A is significantly larger and there is an "normal" percentual attrition rate (due to killer AAA, etc.) then side is hitting a certain fixed number of max lost planes automatically earlier then side B. That is just how it is. If there is a fixed number limit, the larger side has to be percentually more efficient at not losing planes in the same percentage they are numerically superior.

 

Add to that, that blue often features a more diverse player composition then red, featuring very experienced aces specialising in fighters as well as new players which tend to go more often blue as it is the "easier" side.. you can see how inexperienced players contribute to that plane loss.

Red usually has more people flying ground attack and some very specialised players in that, and if unopposed, the red planes like Il2 or Pe2 down low strafing targets have a better survival rate because for that type of attack the planes are better suited. Blue has vastly better bomber planes, but there are few specialised players in that and high altitude level bombing (that takes 30min alone to get to alt) has a time penalty: In the time of one level bomb run, the low strafers have 3 runs. Stukas can be flown survivable, but that too involves climbing and one divebombing run with then retiring and almost no strafing, but most blue players don´t do that, especially when Stukas are the "free plane".

Playing red, I´ve encountered more lone, unescorted bombers at medium alt then fighters, which if you extrapolate that, is another reason for the plane losses, meanwhile the blue fighters might dominate the fighter-vs-fighter combat, but they rarely escorted or cared for the bombers but kind of flew 90% "free hunt" with a lot of that over the own territory to save stats in case of bailout or crashlanding. The only blue fighters I encountered over the red side where on free hunt, with no bombers and hanging round the red airbases...   same as on WoL or other servers. If you look at the statistics, regardless of server or even events like Friday Night Bomber Flights, blue has the better fighters and more airkills but fails to either a) bring equally skilled bombers or b) coordinate and protect the bombers bombers enough to keep the plane losses at an acceptable level to win (even FNBF bomber losses with assigned escorts where terrible) against that statistics mechanism stated above.

 

We did exactly that with Blakhart before the last campaign started - we tested all sort of plane combinations to each other and saw how it works out (we are close skill wise - so the results are relevant)

Blakharts comments are based on the comperative tests that we did exactly because of the planeset balancing.

 

Next campaing LG will fly red as they said and I will also fly red - as we did the campaign that was befor this one.

Lagg is good - noone can deny that. We had massive scores with it against loads of F4 and G2. 

Personally I find it a better tactical fighter than the Yak if it can use the 23mm. It has much more firepower and comperative flight performance.

 

As for stats of this campaign - mostly what the stats are saying that LW made many more flights, crashed more planes because of more flights, percentually made less ground attack runs than VVS (ground targets destroyed were about the same)...  Logicly LW has more kills than.

Did those kills contribute to the war effort -> not really as LW lost in the end.

Does this mean that VVS should get Yak as basic fighter and LW the Macchi as basic fighter -> not at all.

 

VVS fighters had a rough time this campaign -> almost constantly outnumbered and LW fighter pilots concentrating mostly on airkills.

The solution to this is not planeset but game dynamic that concentrates on ground support more and also more balanced playercount.

Gamedynamic is something that LG guys are working on, balanced playercount is community specific, but again some squads will move to VVS this time and make it more equal playercount wise.

 

Generaly looking - key of LW dominance on servers that are only airkill orientated is the climbrate performance of the 109. They are always on top and dictate the fight.

However that generaly dosent help the war effort -> they need to be at 6 or 7km to be in a dominant position and on the deck the stukas and ground targets are getting destroyed -> the fighters need to be lower to support the ground action. 

There it becomes a much different game -> and TAW should be such that the action on the ground is contibuting to the war effort the most.

Edited August 5, 2016 by Dr_Zeebra

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Im locking this one for now and untill we at the mod/administration team decide about it.

 

As far as I can see, I readed several people breaking several rules.

 

Most important thing should be respect for other members and it seems some just dont have it or dont want to.

 

Will be unlocked further ahead.